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Machine learning and artificial intelligence are dramatically changing the way businesses operate and people live. The TWIML AI Podcast brings the top minds and ideas from the world of ML and AI to a broad and influential community of ML/AI researchers, data scientists, engineers and tech-savvy business and IT leaders. Hosted by Sam Charrington, a sought after industry analyst, speaker, commentator and thought leader. Technologies covered include machine learning, artificial intelligence, deep learning, natural language processing, neural networks, analytics, computer science, data science and more.
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1Today, we’re joined by Oliver Wang, principal scientist at Google DeepMind and tech lead for Gemini 2.5 Flash Image—better known by its code name, “Nano Banana.” We dive into the development and capabilities of this newly released frontier vision-language model, beginning with the broader shift from specialized image generators to general-purpose multimodal agents that can use both visual and textual data for a variety of tasks. Oliver explains how Nano Banana can generate and iteratively edit images while maintaining consistency, and how its integration with Gemini’s world knowledge expands creative and practical use cases. We discuss the tension between aesthetics and accuracy, the relative maturity of image models compared to text-based LLMs, and scaling as a driver of progress. Oliver also shares surprising emergent behaviors, the challenges of evaluating vision-language models, and the risks of training on AI-generated data. Finally, we look ahead to interactive world models and VLMs that may one day “think” and “reason” in images.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/748.
Today, we're joined by Aditi Raghunathan, assistant professor at Carnegie Mellon University, to discuss the limitations of LLMs and how we can build more adaptable and creative models. We dig into her ICML 2025 Outstanding Paper Award winner, “Roll the dice & look before you leap: Going beyond the creative limits of next-token prediction,” which examines why LLMs struggle with generating truly novel ideas. We dig into the "Roll the dice" approach, which encourages structured exploration by injecting randomness at the start of generation, and the "Look before you leap" concept, which trains models to take "leaps of thought" using alternative objectives to create more diverse and structured outputs. We also discuss Aditi’s papers exploring the counterintuitive phenomenon of "catastrophic overtraining," where training models on more data improves benchmark performance but degrades their ability to be fine-tuned for new tasks, and dig into her lab's work on creating more controllable and reliable models, including the concept of "memorization sinks," an architectural approach to isolate and enable the targeted unlearning of specific information.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/747.
Today, we're joined by Animesh Koratana, founder and CEO of PlayerZero to discuss his team’s approach to making agentic and AI-assisted coding tools production-ready at scale. Animesh explains how rapid advances in AI-assisted coding have created an “asymmetry” where the speed of code output outpaces the maturity of processes for maintenance and support. We explore PlayerZero’s debugging and code verification platform, which uses code simulations to build a "memory bank" of past bugs and leverages an ensemble of LLMs and agents to proactively simulate and verify changes, predicting potential failures. Animesh also unpacks the underlying technology, including a semantic graph that analyzes code bases, ticketing systems, and telemetry to trace and reason through complex systems, test hypotheses, and apply reinforcement learning techniques to create an “immune system” for software. Finally, Animesh shares his perspective on the future of the software development lifecycle (SDLC), rethinking organizational workflows, and ensuring security as AI-driven tools continue to mature.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/746.
In this episode, Christian Szegedy, Chief Scientist at Morph Labs, joins us to discuss how the application of formal mathematics and reasoning enables the creation of more robust and safer AI systems. A pioneer behind concepts like the Inception architecture and adversarial examples, Christian now focuses on autoformalization—the AI-driven process of translating mathematical concepts from their human-readable form into rigorously formal, machine-verifiable logic. We explore the critical distinction between the informal reasoning of current LLMs, which can be prone to errors and subversion, and the provably correct reasoning enabled by formal systems. Christian outlines how this approach provides a robust path toward AI safety and also creates the high-quality, verifiable data needed to train models capable of surpassing human scientists in specialized domains. We also delve into his predictions for achieving this superintelligence and his ultimate vision for AI as a tool that helps humanity understand itself.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/745.
Today, we're joined by Prince Canuma, an ML engineer and open-source developer focused on optimizing AI inference on Apple Silicon devices. Prince shares his journey to becoming one of the most prolific contributors to Apple’s MLX ecosystem, having published over 1,000 models and libraries that make open, multimodal AI accessible and performant on Apple devices. We explore his workflow for adapting new models in MLX, the trade-offs between the GPU and Neural Engine, and how optimization methods like pruning and quantization enhance performance. We also cover his work on "Fusion," a weight-space method for combining model behaviors without retraining, and his popular packages—MLX-Audio, MLX-Embeddings, and MLX-VLM—which streamline the use of MLX across different modalities. Finally, Prince introduces Marvis, a real-time speech-to-speech voice agent, and shares his vision for the future of AI, emphasizing the move towards "media models" that can handle multiple modalities, and more.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/744.
Today, we're joined by Jack Parker-Holder and Shlomi Fruchter, researchers at Google DeepMind, to discuss the recent release of Genie 3, a model capable of generating “playable” virtual worlds. We dig into the evolution of the Genie project and review the current model’s scaled-up capabilities, including creating real-time, interactive, and high-resolution environments. Jack and Shlomi share their perspectives on what defines a world model, the model's architecture, and key technical challenges and breakthroughs, including Genie 3’s visual memory and ability to handle “promptable world events.” Jack, Shlomi, and Sam share their favorite Genie 3 demos, and discuss its potential as a dynamic training environment for embodied AI agents. Finally, we will explore future directions for Genie research.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/743.
In this episode, we're joined by Lin Qiao, CEO and co-founder of Fireworks AI. Drawing on key lessons from her time building PyTorch, Lin shares her perspective on the modern generative AI development lifecycle. She explains why aligning training and inference systems is essential for creating a seamless, fast-moving production pipeline, preventing the friction that often stalls deployment. We explore the strategic shift from treating models as commodities to viewing them as core product assets. Lin details how post-training methods, like reinforcement fine-tuning (RFT), allow teams to leverage their own proprietary data to continuously improve these assets. Lin also breaks down the complex challenge of what she calls "3D optimization"—balancing cost, latency, and quality—and emphasizes the role of clear evaluation criteria to guide this process, moving beyond unreliable methods like "vibe checking." Finally, we discuss the path toward the future of AI development: designing a closed-loop system for automated model improvement, a vision made more attainable by the exciting convergence of open and closed-source model capabilities.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/742.
In this episode, Filip Kozera, founder and CEO of Wordware, explains his approach to building agentic workflows where natural language serves as the new programming interface. Filip breaks down the architecture of these "background agents," explaining how they use a reflection loop and tool-calling to execute complex tasks. He discusses the current limitations of agent protocols like MCPs and how developers can extend them to handle the required context and authority. The conversation challenges the idea that more powerful models lead to more autonomous agents, arguing instead for "graceful recovery" systems that proactively bring humans into the loop when the agent "knows what it doesn't know." We also get into the "application layer" fight, exploring how SaaS platforms are creating data silos and what this means for the future of interoperable AI agents. Filip also shares his vision for the "word artisan"—the non-technical user who can now build and manage a fleet of AI agents, fundamentally changing the nature of knowledge work.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/741.
In this episode, Jared Quincy Davis, founder and CEO at Foundry, introduces the concept of "compound AI systems," which allows users to create powerful, efficient applications by composing multiple, often diverse, AI models and services. We discuss how these "networks of networks" can push the Pareto frontier, delivering results that are simultaneously faster, more accurate, and even cheaper than single-model approaches. Using examples like "laconic decoding," Jared explains the practical techniques for building these systems and the underlying principles of inference-time scaling. The conversation also delves into the critical role of co-design, where the evolution of AI algorithms and the underlying cloud infrastructure are deeply intertwined, shaping the future of agentic AI and the compute landscape.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/740.
In this episode, Kwindla Kramer, co-founder and CEO of Daily and creator of the open source Pipecat framework, joins us to discuss the architecture and challenges of building real-time, production-ready conversational voice AI. Kwin breaks down the full stack for voice agents—from the models and APIs to the critical orchestration layer that manages the complexities of multi-turn conversations. We explore why many production systems favor a modular, multi-model approach over the end-to-end models demonstrated by large AI labs, and how this impacts everything from latency and cost to observability and evaluation. Kwin also digs into the core challenges of interruption handling, turn-taking, and creating truly natural conversational dynamics, and how to overcome them. We discuss use cases, thoughts on where the technology is headed, the move toward hybrid edge-cloud pipelines, and the exciting future of real-time video avatars, and much more.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/739.
Today, we're joined by Fatih Porikli, senior director of technology at Qualcomm AI Research for an in-depth look at several of Qualcomm's accepted papers and demos featured at this year’s CVPR conference. We start with “DiMA: Distilling Multi-modal Large Language Models for Autonomous Driving,” an end-to-end autonomous driving system that incorporates distilling large language models for structured scene understanding and safe planning motion in critical "long-tail" scenarios. We explore how DiMA utilizes LLMs' world knowledge and efficient transformer-based models to significantly reduce collision rates and trajectory errors. We then discuss “SharpDepth: Sharpening Metric Depth Predictions Using Diffusion Distillation,” a diffusion-distilled approach that combines generative models with metric depth estimation to produce sharp, accurate monocular depth maps. Additionally, Fatih also shares a look at Qualcomm’s on-device demos, including text-to-3D mesh generation, real-time image-to-video and video-to-video generation, and a multi-modal visual question-answering assistant.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/738.
Today, we're joined by Vijoy Pandey, SVP and general manager at Outshift by Cisco to discuss a foundational challenge for the enterprise: how do we make specialized agents from different vendors collaborate effectively? As companies like Salesforce, Workday, and Microsoft all develop their own agentic systems, integrating them creates a complex, probabilistic, and noisy environment, a stark contrast to the deterministic APIs of the past. Vijoy introduces Cisco's vision for an "Internet of Agents," a platform to manage this new reality, and its open-source implementation, AGNTCY. We explore the four phases of agent collaboration—discovery, composition, deployment, and evaluation—and dive deep into the communication stack, from syntactic protocols like A2A, ACP, and MCP to the deeper semantic challenges of creating a shared understanding between agents. Vijoy also unveils SLIM (Secure Low-Latency Interactive Messaging), a novel transport layer designed to make agent-to-agent communication quantum-safe, real-time, and efficient for multi-modal workloads.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/737.
Today, we're joined by Ben Wellington, deputy head of feature forecasting at Two Sigma. We dig into the team’s end-to-end approach to leveraging AI in equities feature forecasting, covering how they identify and create features, collect and quantify historical data, and build predictive models to forecast market behavior and asset prices for trading and investment. We explore the firm's platform-centric approach to managing an extensive portfolio of features and models, the impact of multimodal LLMs on accelerating the process of extracting novel features, the importance of strict data timestamping to prevent temporal leakage, and the way they consider build vs. buy decisions in a rapidly evolving landscape. Lastly, Ben also shares insights on leveraging open-source models and the future of agentic AI in quantitative finance.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/736.
Today, we're joined by Jason Corso, co-founder of Voxel51 and professor at the University of Michigan, to explore automated labeling in computer vision. Jason introduces FiftyOne, an open-source platform for visualizing datasets, analyzing models, and improving data quality. We focus on Voxel51’s recent research report, “Zero-shot auto-labeling rivals human performance,” which demonstrates how zero-shot auto-labeling with foundation models can yield to significant cost and time savings compared to traditional human annotation. Jason explains how auto-labels, despite being "noisier" at lower confidence thresholds, can lead to better downstream model performance. We also cover Voxel51's "verified auto-labeling" approach, which utilizes a "stoplight" QA workflow (green, yellow, red light) to minimize human review. Finally, we discuss the challenges of handling decision boundary uncertainty and out-of-domain classes, the differences between synthetic data generation in vision and language domains, and the potential of agentic labeling.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/735.
Today, we're joined by Charles Martin, founder of Calculation Consulting, to discuss Weight Watcher, an open-source tool for analyzing and improving Deep Neural Networks (DNNs) based on principles from theoretical physics. We explore the foundations of the Heavy-Tailed Self-Regularization (HTSR) theory that underpins it, which combines random matrix theory and renormalization group ideas to uncover deep insights about model training dynamics. Charles walks us through WeightWatcher’s ability to detect three distinct learning phases—underfitting, grokking, and generalization collapse—and how its signature “layer quality” metric reveals whether individual layers are underfit, overfit, or optimally tuned. Additionally, we dig into the complexities involved in fine-tuning models, the surprising correlation between model optimality and hallucination, the often-underestimated challenges of search relevance, and their implications for RAG. Finally, Charles shares his insights into real-world applications of generative AI and his lessons learned from working in the field.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/734.
Today, I’m excited to share a special crossover edition of the podcast recorded live from Google I/O 2025! In this episode, I join Shawn Wang aka Swyx from the Latent Space Podcast, to interview Logan Kilpatrick and Shrestha Basu Mallick, PMs at Google DeepMind working on AI Studio and the Gemini API, along with Kwindla Kramer, CEO of Daily and creator of the Pipecat open source project. We cover all the highlights from the event, including enhancements to the Gemini models like thinking budgets and thought summaries, native audio output for expressive voice AI, and the new URL Context tool for research agents. The discussion also digs into the Gemini Live API, covering its architecture, the challenges of building real-time voice applications (such as latency and voice activity detection), and new features like proactive audio and asynchronous function calling. Finally, don’t miss our guests’ wish lists for next year’s I/O!
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/733.
Today, we're joined by Sebastian Gehrmann, head of responsible AI in the Office of the CTO at Bloomberg, to discuss AI safety in retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) systems and generative AI in high-stakes domains like financial services. We explore how RAG, contrary to some expectations, can inadvertently degrade model safety. We cover examples of unsafe outputs that can emerge from these systems, different approaches to evaluating these safety risks, and the potential reasons behind this counterintuitive behavior. Shifting to the application of generative AI in financial services, Sebastian outlines a domain-specific safety taxonomy designed for the industry's unique needs. We also explore the critical role of governance and regulatory frameworks in addressing these concerns, the role of prompt engineering in bolstering safety, Bloomberg’s multi-layered mitigation strategies, and vital areas for further work in improving AI safety within specialized domains.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/732.
Today, we're joined by Mahesh Sathiamoorthy, co-founder and CEO of Bespoke Labs, to discuss how reinforcement learning (RL) is reshaping the way we build custom agents on top of foundation models. Mahesh highlights the crucial role of data curation, evaluation, and error analysis in model performance, and explains why RL offers a more robust alternative to prompting, and how it can improve multi-step tool use capabilities. We also explore the limitations of supervised fine-tuning (SFT) for tool-augmented reasoning tasks, the reward-shaping strategies they’ve used, and Bespoke Labs’ open-source libraries like Curator. We also touch on the models MiniCheck for hallucination detection and MiniChart for chart-based QA.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/731.
Today, we're joined by Josh Tobin, member of technical staff at OpenAI, to discuss the company’s approach to building AI agents. We cover OpenAI's three agentic offerings—Deep Research for comprehensive web research, Operator for website navigation, and Codex CLI for local code execution. We explore OpenAI’s shift from simple LLM workflows to reasoning models specifically trained for multi-step tasks through reinforcement learning, and how that enables agents to more easily recover from failures while executing complex processes. Josh shares insights on the practical applications of these agents, including some unexpected use cases. We also discuss the future of human-AI collaboration in software development, such as with "vibe coding," the integration of tools through the Model Control Protocol (MCP), and the significance of context management in AI-enabled IDEs. Additionally, we highlight the challenges of ensuring trust and safety as AI agents become more powerful and autonomous.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/730.
Today, we're joined by Nidhi Rastogi, assistant professor at Rochester Institute of Technology to discuss Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI), focusing on her recent project CTIBench—a benchmark for evaluating LLMs on real-world CTI tasks. Nidhi explains the evolution of AI in cybersecurity, from rule-based systems to LLMs that accelerate analysis by providing critical context for threat detection and defense. We dig into the advantages and challenges of using LLMs in CTI, how techniques like Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) are essential for keeping LLMs up-to-date with emerging threats, and how CTIBench measures LLMs’ ability to perform a set of real-world tasks of the cybersecurity analyst. We unpack the process of building the benchmark, the tasks it covers, and key findings from benchmarking various LLMs. Finally, Nidhi shares the importance of benchmarks in exposing model limitations and blind spots, the challenges of large-scale benchmarking, and the future directions of her AI4Sec Research Lab, including developing reliable mitigation techniques, monitoring "concept drift" in threat detection models, improving explainability in cybersecurity, and more.
The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/729.
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