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On the “New Rules of Business,” Chief Co-Founders Carolyn Childers and Lindsay Kaplan join the brightest minds in business and academia to unravel complex trends and challenge preconceived notions of what leadership should look like. Learn how to lead when the old rules just don’t apply.

40 Episodes
Call us biased, but this season of the podcast truly lived up to its promise to challenge preconceived notions of leadership. To prove it, we’ve compiled our favorite insights gleaned from a few notable guests, including Moms First Founder Reshma Saujani and Olympian Allyson Felix. Learn how the childcare crisis will stifle business growth, how maternal health impacts the C-Suite, why gender parity is so elusive, and so much more.
Trust is an essential feature for any successful relationship, but it’s often missing at work. Company leaders overestimate how much their teams trust them by as much as 40%, and women grow especially wary of their employers as their career progresses, according to research from Deloitte. Here, Wenny Katzenstein and Jasmin Jacks, Deloitte executives, explain why this trust gap exists — and what companies can do to close it.
Men still dominate the ranks of corporate leadership, which means they have an integral role to play in making workplaces more equitable for everyone. But they often underestimate the bias women face and overestimate their own efforts to confront it. Lindsay talks to Dr. Bill Kapfer, Global Head of Supplier Diversity, Community Engagement at JPMorgan Chase, and a participant in the company's Men as Allies program, about the business benefits of allyship and how men can play an active role in achieving gender equity at work.
Neurodiversity advocate Margaux Joffe has something important in common with our Co-Founder Lindsay: Both women were diagnosed with ADHD as adults. It inspired Margaux to launch Kaleidoscope Society, an organization to support women with ADHD, and to help companies like Nike and Yahoo support their neurodivergent employees. Here, Lindsay and Margaux discuss the business benefits of embracing our brain differences and how they’ve grown as leaders since being diagnosed.
Too young. Too old. Too invested in their life at home. There’s never a “right” time to be a leader — for women. That’s the key finding from the latest study conducted by gender bias expert Dr. Amy Diehl. In this episode, Lindsay talks to Dr. Diehl about how bias around caregiving plays a big role in our perceptions of women leaders (even for women without children), and what we can do to dismantle it.
Despite decades of progress, women make up only 10.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs. Why? In this episode, Carolyn talks to IBM’s Salima Lin about the troubling explanations revealed in the company’s Women In Leadership study, conducted in partnership with Chief. From looming pipeline problems to lingering bias against women leaders, the conversation is an enlightening look at must-solves for executives who care about equitable workplaces.
Sallie Krawcheck knows a little something about the ups and downs of career turns: She began as an investment banker before becoming a research analyst, CEO, CFO, and, now, the Founder and CEO of Ellevest, one of the biggest investment platforms for women. From overcoming bias to building your own personal Board of Directors, she shares with Carolyn her best advice for planning and executing a successful career pivot.
Pregnancy-related deaths for Black women are three times higher than they are for White women, and more than 80% are preventable. So why aren’t we preventing them? In this episode, Carolyn talks to Track and Field Olympian Allyson Felix about how her traumatic path to motherhood inspired her to become a maternal health advocate, how her fight against Nike led to better maternity protections for athletes, and how she’s now changing the game with her footwear brand Saysh.
Business leaders are demanding employees return to the office — right in the midst of a crisis that’s making childcare more costly and inaccessible than ever for working parents. Reshma Saujani, Founder of Moms First and Girls Who Code, explains why a workplace that supports moms benefits everyone.
Stay tuned for an all-new season of The New Rules of Business by Chief, the network that connects and supports women executives. This season, Chief Co-Founders Carolyn Childers and Lindsay Kaplan dig into complex leadership issues around neurodiversity in the workplace, the ongoing childcare crisis and its impact on business, the art of the career pivot for leaders, and why there’s no such thing as equity without male allyship to support. They’ll be joined by the best minds in business and research including Sallie Krawcheck, Reshma Saujani, and Allyson Felix. Learn the new rules of business with Chief. Season 4, coming soon.
The “move fast and break things” strategy is broken. What’s next? How can we manage incoming threats without sacrificing speed and innovation? In this episode, Lindsay talks with veteran astronaut and former Director of NASA’s Johnson Space Center Dr. Ellen Ochoa about how leaders can take smarter risks in a volatile business environment. This is the last episode of Season 3 of the New Rules of Business. Stay tuned for Season 4 coming soon, and subscribe now, so you never miss an episode.
We make 2,000 decisions every hour of the day. Of course, they can’t all be perfect. But if you’re in the leadership seat, falling into a thinking trap at a crucial decision point can have devastating consequences. In this episode, Carolyn talks with Woo-Kyoung Ahn, Yale Professor and author of Thinking 101, about how executives can gain competitive advantage by understanding and avoiding the most prevalent cognitive errors.
While corporate America pats itself on the back for DEI programs, one of the most impactful levers for achieving racial justice and equality is about to be dismantled. In this episode, Carolyn talks with Dr. Khiara Bridges, Professor of Law at Berkeley, about the business consequences of banning affirmative action and what leaders must do to drive real progress on diversity, equity, and inclusion
With much of the business world in a tailspin, we’re all hungry for a new model of leadership — because the old ones just don’t work. In this episode, Carolyn talks with Julia Boorstin, senior correspondent at CNBC and author of "When Women Lead", about why women leaders have the qualities needed for long-term, sustainable business success.
Most companies are committed to preventing discrimination against people of different ethnicities, genders, and abilities. But what about those with resume gaps? Two out of three people have experienced a break in their careers, but the stigma remains. In this episode, Lindsay and Carolyn talk with Jennifer Carpenter, Vice President of Talent Acquisition and Executive Search at IBM, about what business stands to gain by changing the conversation around career gaps.
Executive presence takes years to cultivate, but it shows up in a millisecond. That’s especially true in the modern workplace, where each rapid-fire email presents an opportunity to make or break your credibility. In this episode, Carolyn talks with communications expert Erica Dhawan about how to lead with authenticity and empathy in the digital work environment.
Overwork is literally killing us, with long hours and workplace stress contributing to nearly one million deaths per year. But can we really afford to give it up? Dr. Stephanie Creary, Professor at the Wharton School of Business, says we can — and we must. In this episode, Lindsay talks with Stephanie about how the cult of workaholism and how to break the cycles of overwork for yourself and your team.
Productivity is tanking, and executives are scrambling for solutions to boost output. But what if continually cranking up the dial isn’t actually getting us anywhere? Is it finally time to replace this 250-year-old metric of ‘success’? On this episode, Carolyn and Lindsay talk to Laetitia Vitaud, author and speaker on the future of work, about the hidden costs of the pursuit of productivity. Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at
Every business has non-promotable tasks — like proofing other people’s work, taking notes, and mentoring others — that need to get done by someone. Most of the time, that someone is a woman. In this episode, Lindsay talks with Dr. Lise Vesterlund, co-author of the No Club, about the burden of non-promotable work and what to do about it. Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at
Stay tuned for an all-new season of the New Rules of Business from Chief, the most powerful network of women executives. This season, Chief Co-Founders Carolyn Childers and Lindsay Kaplan dig into complex leadership issues such as whether we can go too far in the pursuit of equity, the most damaging thinking traps for executives, and what the future holds for leadership archetypes. They’ll be joined by the best minds in business and academia including Yale Professor Woo-Kyoung Ahn, author Erica Dhawan, GDIT President Amy Gilliland, astronaut and former NASA Director Ellen Ochoa, and more.