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The Preacher and The Pagan

The Preacher and The Pagan

Author: Deborah Suddard and Deborah Baudoin

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Two long time friends discuss the ins and outs of Christian history, faith, and spirituality from a Christian and Pagan point of view. Funny, informative and often optimistic, these discussions help separate the myth from the message.
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In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss current events – As our stories grow more volatile and uncertain, a paradigm shift is more necessary than ever. Faith can be the catalyst for finding courage we never knew we had, while keeping ourselves sane and whole in the process.
Debb and Deb return with a new passion for making the world a kinder, saner, and more spiritually empowered place. In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss ten ways you can use your faith as a powerful tool for political resistance.
Reclaiming Anger

Reclaiming Anger

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Debb and Deb return with a new passion for making the world a kinder, saner, and more spiritually empowered place. In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss anger – its social context, consequences, and use in propelling people into into just action.
Debb and Deb return for a second season with a new look, a new sound, and a new passion for making the world a kinder, saner, and more spiritually empowered place. In this episode, Debb and Deb catch up on recent world events, their effects on us personally, and how all of us can convert … Continue reading Season 2: We’re Back!
In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss conservation, ecology, and the spiritual implications of our choices when protecting our planet’s environment.
In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss the not-so-modern concept of Christian Nationalism as well as the duty we have to reclaim our faith from those who would corrupt it for personal and political gain. Also, a primer on how to recognize and combat generational, cultural, and spiritual divisions manufactured specifically to weaken and demoralize.
In this episode, Debb and Deb grab their umbrellas, gather together the pets, and head off for a voyage with Noah and the gang. From archeological geekery to an honest look at the power of forgiveness, get ready for a stormy ride!
In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss the tools needed for having difficult conversations with people from opposing viewpoints. From Square One. which is mutual respect, all the way through understanding and accepting that the only solution may be agreeing there is no easy solution, this episode digs deep into the core of conflict resolution … Continue reading Episode 27: The Square One Episode
In this episode, Debb and Deb talk pet peeves – those niggling little annoyances that drive them crazy about their faiths. From “Biblical” consumerism to “Can you make Johnnie love fall in love with me?” the Deb(b)s speak truth about faith-based foolishness.
In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss the Gospels–not just the four that made it into the Big Book, but the multiple others that never made the cut. Who wrote them? Who followed them? And who decided on the Final Four Christians know today?
Like so many of us, Debb and Deb have succumbed to Holiday Madness. So while they cook, clean, they decorate, shlep, sweat, and possibly swear a bit, feel free to relax and enjoy this Holiday episode from the very beginning. In this episode, Debb and Deb wax eloquent(ish) on the history, culture, and community of … Continue reading Repost: The It’s a Wonderful Rerun Episode
In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss the patriarchy. Yup, the patriarchy and “godliness” and all those complications that distract from the basic purpose of faith–to make the world a better place. (Oh, and that patriarchy stuff? Yeah, more Zeus than Jesus…)
In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss the ins and out of faith in the modern world, and how people of faith need to evolve and adapt if we are to grow.
In the fun-filled conclusion of this 2-part episode, Debb and Deb discuss eschatology, the study of death, apocalypse and the end of Life, the Universe, and Everything!
In this episode, Debb and Deb hop into the Way-Back Machine to discuss Biblical creation myths, the Big Bang theory, and how how you think the world started affects how you interact with it.
In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss history’s first example word-salad, the Tower of Babel. Join us in a rollicking half-hour of history, mythology, and subtle existential dread.
Discover the SHOCKING Origins of the Bible Kept HIDDEN from the Public! Not really, but every legend deserves an origin story. In this episode, Debb and Deb discuss the historical factors that led to the writing, development, and eventual misinterpretations of the Greatest Story Ever….compiled?
In this episode, Debb and Deb battle sleep deprivation and spring fever to discuss the mostly forgotten (or ignored) role women played in the Gospels, as well as in the intellectual and spiritual development of the early Christian Church.
In this episode, Debb and Deb take a closer look at the apostles, Jesus’ inner circle of disciples–the who, what, and how many of it all. Turns out, we really don’t know all that much….
At the moment, Debb and Deb are taking some time off to deal with Real Life. We’ll be back soon with new episodes, but please feel free to enjoy one of our earlier episodes: The Easter Episode.
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