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Hello! After some consideration we are moving all The Side Woo content over to our YouTube channel. Please join Thibault there for all kinds of antics including interviews, tarot readings, essays, and other unique content that people put on The YouTubes. The Side Woo on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thibault-thesidewoo

This week Thibault does a reading for the full moon in Taurus, which is super charged to support your efforts around grounding and connecting with community. Deck: The Official Tarot of The Grateful DeadALSO - Lisa Crallé s gallery Personal Space is in Vallejo NOT Alameda as is referenced in the video. Apologies to all. To support Personal Space go to: https://givebutter.com/personalspacehttps://givebutter.com/personalspaceVolunteer at Tech For Campaigns at ⁠techforcampaigns.org⁠Follow Thibault on Medium at ⁠⁠  / thibault2studio⁠⁠  Check out Thibault's art at ⁠⁠Thibault2studio.com⁠⁠Watch on YouTube: ⁠⁠   / @thibault-thesidewoo  

This episode, Thibault a does reading for the week of October 28 - November 3, 2025. Deck: The Official Grateful Dead Tarot Deck.Volunteer at Tech For Campaigns at techforcampaigns.orgFollow Thibault on Medium at ⁠https://medium.com/@thibault2studio⁠Check out Thibault's art at ⁠Thibault2studio.com⁠Watch on YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thibault-thesidewoo⁠

This episode, Thibault does a quick reading for the new moon in Libra happening on October 21st. The effects of the new moon lasts about a month, so this reading has more bang for your buck. Deck: The Official Grateful Dead TarotFollow on Medium at https://medium.com/@thibault2studioCheck out Thibault's art at Thibault2studio.comWatch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thibault-thesidewoo

This week, in lieu of a new episode - and there will be a couple more this season, Thibault is bringing back a new, old segment: weekly tarot readings. This week is a short and dudelicious, just like our host. Deck: The Official Grateful Dead Deck

This week's episode was recorded and broadcasted live from the Axel Contemporary Truck onto Radio Tomada in Santa Fe. Thibault talks with Mathew and Jerry about woo, and talks with Zina about the sound bath she did at Electra Gallery, living in Arkansas, and the art world. About Radio TomadaRadio Tomada 87.9 is a mobile radio broadcast project organized by Autumn Chacon for SITE Santa Fe's International Biennial curated by Cecila Alemani. Zina Al ShukriZina Al-Shukri was born in Baghdad, Iraq in 1978. She moved with her parents to the United States when she was 5 years of age. Al-Shukri received her BA from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, and attended the California College of the Arts, receiving her MFA in 2009.Zina Al-Shukri is an emerging artist whose exhibition history includes Jack Hanley Gallery, San Francisco, and Pulliam Deffenbach Gallery, Portland, Oregon.Zina's workMatthew Chase-DanielMatthew Chase-Daniel  was born in Cambridge, Massachusetts in 1965 and lived in New York City in the 1960s. In the mid and late 1980s, Chase-Daniel studied at the Ojai Foundation in Ojai, California, at Sarah Lawrence College in Bronxville, New York (B.A.), and in Paris, France, where he studied cultural anthropology, photography, and ethnographic film production (Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes & Sorbonne). Since 1989, he has lived in Santa Fe, New Mexico, making family, and roaming the landscape to make his art. His photography and sculpture have been exhibited across the U.S. and in Europe.He is the co-founder, co-owner, and co-curator of Axle Contemporary, a mobile gallery of art, founded in 2010, a radio/podcast host at Coffee and Culture, curator of The Lena Wall, and a member of the Railyard Art Committee, all in Santa Fe.Jerry WellmanJerry Wellman is a Santa Fe-based artist whose cultural work includes curatorial projects, performance, writing, video and studio production. Wellman earned an MFA from CalArts. Wellman’s paintings and drawings have been exhibited at the Brooklyn Museum of Art, Holly Solomon Gallery in New York City, Pierogi Gallery in Brooklyn, The Downey Museum, and The Orange County Center of Contemporary Art in California, The El Paso Museum of Art, The Revolving Museum in Boston, and The Paseo Project in Taos, NM. His drawings were selected for a traveling show sponsored by the Smithsonian. His work with Axle Contemporary has been exhibited at SITE Santa Fe, 516 Arts in Albuquerque, The. Navajo Nation Museum in Window Rock AZ, The Western Heritage Museum in Hobbs NM and the Roswell Art Center in Roswell NM. Awards of note include: Art Matters Foundation Grant, LINE Grant, Puffin Grant, and an NEA grant. Wellman has taught at the Pasadena College of Art and Design, CalArts, and New Mexico State University. He was formerly the head curator at Los Angeles Institute of Contemporary Art. He is the co-founder, co-director and co-curator of Axle Contemporary artspaceAbout The Side WooThe Side Woo podcast was created to open a frank dialogue about the overlaps of mental health, queer stories, the metaphysical (woo), and creativity as a way to understand how one builds a sustainable creative life, and to shine a light on the ways artists overcome trauma and adversity. New episodes come out on Thursdays.About ThibaultThibault² is a trans, interdisciplinary artist based in New Mexico. To learn more you can follow them on their blog, artdate.substack.com

In this special bonus episode, artist Dana Hemenway shares hot takes on art, travel, shpants and more.About Dana HemenwayDana Hemenway is an artist based in San Francisco. Her work is rooted in the excavation and elevation of utilitarian objects to make visible what has become habituated in our built environments. Hemenway uses these functional items as materials to form traditionally fiber-based crafts–– lights and cords are woven through ceramics or the gallery wall, extension cords are transformed into macramé chains. Hemenway has had residencies at the Bemis Center for Contemporary Art (Omaha, NE), ACRE (Stueben, WI), SÍM (Reykjavik, Iceland), Joya: arte + ecología (Spain), The Wassaic Project (Upstate New York) and at Recology Waste Management (San Francisco). Dana is a 2024 Eureka Fellow, Fleishhacker Foundation and the recipient of The San Francisco Arts Commission Individual Artist Grant and a Southern Exposure Alternative Exposure Grant. She has a public art commission at SFO’s Terminal 1. Dana has exhibited her artwork locally, nationally, and internationally. From 2015 – 2017, Dana served as a co-director of Royal Nonesuch Gallery, an artist-run project space in Oakland, CA. She received her MFA from Mills College and her BA from University of California Santa Cruz. She is represented by Eleanor Harwood Gallery.

This week Thibault talks with Dana Hemenway at The Space Program studio where Dana is doing a residency. They talk about Dana's background in public art, how motherhood has changed her practice, and what it was like working together as co-director at Royal Nonesuch Gallery in the 2010s. Check out our next bonus episode for Dana's hot takes.About Dana Hemenway Dana Hemenway is an artist based in San Francisco. Her work is rooted in the excavation and elevation of utilitarian objects to make visible what has become habituated in our built environments. Hemenway uses these functional items as materials to form traditionally fiber-based crafts–– lights and cords are woven through ceramics or the gallery wall, extension cords are transformed into macramé chains. Hemenway has had residencies at the Bemis Center for Contemporary Art (Omaha, NE), ACRE (Stueben, WI), SÍM (Reykjavik, Iceland), Joya: arte + ecología (Spain), The Wassaic Project (Upstate New York) and at Recology Waste Management (San Francisco). Dana is a 2024 Eureka Fellow, Fleishhacker Foundation and the recipient of The San Francisco Arts Commission Individual Artist Grant and a Southern Exposure Alternative Exposure Grant. She has a public art commission at SFO’s Terminal 1. Dana has exhibited her artwork locally, nationally, and internationally. From 2015 – 2017, Dana served as a co-director of Royal Nonesuch Gallery, an artist-run project space in Oakland, CA. She received her MFA from Mills College and her BA from University of California Santa Cruz. She is represented by Eleanor Harwood Gallery.Website https://www.danahemenway.com

This week Thibault talks with gallerists and power couple, Jackie Im and Aaron Harbour of Et Al Gallery and all the other projects they tackle separately and together. They talk about San Francisco's evolution as a center for art, best taqueria in town, and other important, timely topics. Website: https://etaletc.comTo support Et Al and their fundraiser, you can go to https://etaletc.com/support

This week, Thibault talks with Renate Hume, a healer and artist who offers mandala readings to help guide people through their many chapters in life. They discuss Hume's many self-reinventions throughout her life, astrology, walking on hot coals, and ultimately how she learned to read mandalas. About Renate HumeRenate Collins Hume has been a counselor and spiritual development advisorfor most of her adult life. She holds a Master in Neurolinguistic Programming; an Advanced Degree in Ericksonian Hypnosis.  She is a Reiki Master and a Certified Instructor for the Julian Method of Natural Healing. At the C.G.Jung Institute in Zurich Renate extended her studies of symbols and dream interpretation. An accomplished artist and writer her sensitivities extend into her psychotherapy work. Renate is an Intuitive and a Healer and considers Personal Mandala Readings her life work. She recently got certified as Respite Caregiver in Taos and surrounds.Website: https://www.renatecollinshume.com/

We are back with Season 5 of The Side Woo podcast and our first guest is LA-based artist Raina Lee. Thibault and Raina talk about life in and out of LA after the fires in January, karaoke as an art form, ceramics and feng shui. About Raina Lee Raina Lee is a second-generation Taiwanese-American artist working in ceramic sculpture and installation. She is an author and zine publisher, having written in creative-nonfiction and technology for fifteen years. In the ceramics, she is known for her experimental glazes and textured surface vessels. In her current practice, she combines sculpture and ceramic glaze paintings, creating installations of significant moments in art history. Her work highlights the ways non-Western cultures and art practices have influenced the Western art canon. While acknowledging that cultural influence goes in all directions, Lee questions what is interpretation versus cultural appropriation, and how the boundaries between these reflect structures of power, class, and colonialism. She explores Asian diasporic identity, displacement, and the erosion of time through a material practice. She draws from classical Chinese, Greek, and Persian art history. She has worked in 3D-clay printing as an artist-in-residence at the Expressive Computation Lab at University of California, Santa Barbara and has also made functional ceramics. Other residencies include Watershed (Maine), High Desert Test Sites (Joshua Tree), Texere (Oaxaca), Ikea Residency (Los Angeles), and Salmon Creek Farm (Mendocino). Her work is influenced video games, science fiction futurism, and a Southern California immigrant upbringing. She grew up between Taiwan and her parent’s pizzaria in Torrance, California. Her work has been featured in press worldwide, including The New York Times: T Magazine, Surface Magazine, and MilK Decoration. She is the author of Hit Me With Your Best Shot: The Ultimate Guide To Karaoke Domination (Chronicle Books) and publisher of cult zine about technology and gaming culture, 1-Up MegaZine. She has a B.A. in sociology from U.C. Davis and M.A. in Film and Media Studies from the New School. Email: rainaleeshop at gmail.com Instagram: @rainajleeWatch this episode on our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ-tTvznWMQ

About Mia WeinerResponding to the historical textile, Mia Weiner creates intimate declarations that explore identity, gender, and the psychology of human relationships. She hand-weaves each tapestry in her Los Angeles studio.Mia received her MFA from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago (2020) and her BFA in Fiber from the Maryland Institute College of Art in 2013. She was awarded the V&A Parasol Prize by the Victoria & Albert Museum and Parasol Foundation in 2024. Her work has been exhibited internationally including in New York, London, Los Angeles, Miami, Chicago, and Rome. Weiner is a Yaddo Fellow and her work is in the permanent collection of the Kunstmuseum Den Haag, Netherlands.

This week Thibault sits down for a conversation with LA-based artist Samantha Rosenwald. They talk about a life-changing moment when Sam saw the face of someone (maybe g*d?) in a vision as a child, and life as a hard-working artist. About Samantha RosenwaldRosenwald is based in LA and works primarily in colored pencil on canvas. By threading together contemporary culture, visual pun, and the dogmas of art history, she creates absurd, personal, and darkly funny portraits which illustrate what it feels like to be alive.She received her BA in Art History from Vassar College in 2016 and her MFA in Fine Art from California College of the Arts in 2018. Rosenwald has shown with galleries such as Arsenal Contemporary (New York), Carl Kostyal (Milan), Stems Gallery (Brussels), and Sebastian Gladstone (Los Angeles). upcoming solo exhibition at Carl Kostyal. She and has been featured in publications such as New American Paintings, Art Maze Magazine, and Art of Choice.Show Notes Sam Rosenwald's website https://www.samanthajrosenwald.com/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/samantharosenwald/?hl=en Sam Rosenwald at Carl Kostyal https://kostyal.com/department/draw-jam-2022/samantha-rosenwald/

In October 2024, Thibault sat down with Malado Francine and Kayla Tange to talk with them about moments when life forced change on them. They also talk about past lives, woo woo stories and being careful what you wish for. About Malado Francine Malado Francine (b. Malado Francine Baldwin-Tejeda)  is an American multi-media artist based in Los Angeles.  Her work in multiple media examines the intersection of culture and identity. Outstanding influences in her work include a childhood spent in Dakar, Senegal and Bamako, Mali as the daughter of former Peace Corps volunteers in a mixed-race family of Hispanic descent.  She holds a BA in comparative literature from Swarthmore College, and an MFA in painting from the New York Studio School. She spent more than 15 years living and making art in New York City before moving to Los Angeles in 2013.About Kayla Tange Kayla Tange was born in South Korea and adopted by a Japanese American family. Her love for poetry and photography slowly progressed into a conceptual performance practice which incorporates elements of exotic dancing. Physical and psychic boundaries, sexuality and permanence are also recurring themes. She often uses dark comedy in her performance work to explore love and longing, societal taboos and catharsis. She is the co-producer of Sacred Wounds, a show around ritual, subverting cultural stereotypes and ancestral healing. Show notes: Kayla Tange Vime Page https://vimeo.com/tange Kayla Tange Website https://www.kaylatange.com/ Francine Malado Website http://www.maladobaldwin.com/cv/

This week Thibault sits down with artist and activist Rio Asch Phoenix to talk about his solo show with Monte Vista Projects, While Light Still Falls Here, documenting the hotly contested Canyon Hills property near the Verdugo Mountains in Los Angeles. They talk about Rio's nerd-level love of plants, Instagram's effect on art and why photography is still relevant. Rio's show will be up at Monte Vista Projects in DTLA until Feb 2nd. Go to his closing reception on Saturday, February 1st. Details on the Monte Vista Projects website. About Rio Asch Phoenix Rio Asch Phoenix (b. 1996) is a Los Angeles-based photographer documenting the contested boundaries between built and natural environments. Raised in North Florida, his work focuses on the intersection of these sites and the stories of destruction, renewal, and harmony that emerge from them.  His photographs have appeared in Contemporary Art Review LA, Telegraph Magazine, and KCRW. Recently, he received an Honor Award from the American Society of Landscape Architects and was selected for Review Santa Fe 2024. He holds a BFA in Photography from Northeastern University (2019) Show Notes ⁠Rio Asch Phoenix website⁠⁠ https://www.rioaschphoenix.com/ Rio Asch Phoenix Instagram⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/rioaschphoenix/ Monte Vista Projects ⁠https://www.montevistaprojects.com/ No Canyon Hills https://nocanyonhills.org/⁠ Support the NCH legal defense fund! https://www.gofundme.com/f/nch-legal⁠⁠ Watch The Side Woo on YouTube⁠ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjjmLJwGNrjyP1vbzNUJxKiJ4MXOw7sfE

This week Thibault talks with best-selling author Sarah Thornton about her latest book "Tits Up: Tits Up: What Sex Workers, Milk Bankers, Plastic Surgeons, Bra Designers, and Witches Tell Us about Breasts", which was listed as one of the New Yorker Best Books of 2024. After her own botched breast reconstruction surgery, Thornton delved into what breasts/tits/titties mean to women all over the world from the sex work industry to witches and everyone in between. About Sarah Thornton Sarah Thornton  is a writer, ethnographer and sociologist of culture.[1] Thornton has authored four books and many articles about artists, the art market, bodies, people, culture, technology and design, the history of music technology, dance clubs, raves, cultural hierarchies, subcultures,[2] and ethnographic research methods. Show Notes NY Times Book Review of Tits Up https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/books/review/tits-up-sarah-thornton.html The Guardian Review of Tits Up https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/may/15/one-womans-quest-to-reclaim-her-breasts

This episode is a recording of a live conversation between Thibault and Allison Schulnik, reknowned painter, ceramicist, animator, and filmmaker based out in the desert in Sky Valley, CA. They talk about trying to live a dumb phone life, being witchy, and delve into Schulnik's artistic practice. Schulnik's latest show, "Dumb Phone" was at The Pit in Los Angeles and can be found on their website. The conversation was recorded on December 12, 2024. About Allison Schulnik Allison Schulnik choreographs her subjects in compositions that embody a spirit of the macabre, a Shakespearian comedy/tragedy of love, death and farce. The subjects often stare back at the audience and study them as they are in turn studied, aware of their ancestors from the Grand Theme works of the past, the genre paintings that inform them. Although a haunting sense of foreboding, discomfort and unease is palpable, a sense of understanding, compassion and hopefulness for her cast of characters is still evident in the heavy impasto paintings. Her sculptural use of oil paint references her clay-animation background, as a motion-like sensibility affords her paintings unparalleled depth and energy. Show Notes https://allisonschulnik.me/ Dumb Phone at The Pit https://www.the-pit.la/allison-schulnik-2 The Side Woo on YouTube https://youtu.be/kDTlymYmHDM The Side Woo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesidewoo/

This week's episode was recorded and broadcasted live from the Axel Contemporary Truck onto Radio Tomada in Santa Fe. Thibault talks with Mathew and gives a tarot reading through the lens of Doña Tules (Maria Gertrudis Barceló), a figure from New Mexican history, and a featured personality in the SITE Santa Fe International show. Doña Tules has advice for artists, and anyone trying to make their way in the world as an entrepreneur. The tarot cards are the official Grateful Dead tarot cards, second edition. About Radio Tomada⁠Radio Tomada 87.9⁠ is a mobile radio broadcast project organized by ⁠Autumn Chacon⁠ for ⁠SITE Santa Fe⁠'s International Biennial curated by Cecila Alemani. Matthew Chase-Daniel⁠Matthew Chase-Daniel ⁠ was born in Cambridge, Massachusetts in 1965 and lived in New York City in the 1960s. In the mid and late 1980s, Chase-Daniel studied at the Ojai Foundation in Ojai, California, at Sarah Lawrence College in Bronxville, New York (B.A.), and in Paris, France, where he studied cultural anthropology, photography, and ethnographic film production (Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes & Sorbonne). Since 1989, he has lived in Santa Fe, New Mexico making family, and roaming the landscape to make his art. His photography and sculpture have been exhibited across the U.S. and in Europe. Matthew's work: https://www.chasedaniel.com/About The Side WooThe Side Woo podcast was created by Thibault² to open a frank dialogue about the overlaps of mental health, queer stories, the metaphysical (woo), and creativity as a way to understand how one builds a sustainable creative life, and to shine a light on the ways artists overcome trauma and adversity. New episodes come out on Thursdays.About Thibault²Thibault² is a trans, interdisciplinary artist based in New Mexico. To learn more you can follow them on their blog, ⁠artdate.substack.com⁠

This is a little check-in to say happy new year, and a teaser to get you excited for all the good stuff we have coming your way in 2025, which is just days away - on Thursday of this week, no less. Also a huge thank you to all of our fans! We are listed as a Top 10, and Top 5 favorite podcast for hundreds of people which is incredible. And to the 37 of you who love us best, I love you best of all too :) Our first episode comes out on January 2, 2025 with Allison Schulnik! Leave me a comment, question or your thoughts on “the creative life” and we might share on a future episode https://www.speakpipe.com/Thesidewoo Follow us on Instagram instagram.com/thesidewoo Subscribe on YouTube to get all the video goodness. https://www.youtube.com/@thibault-thesidewoo

This week on The Side Woo, Sarah talks with grad school buddy Roberto Fatal about their beautiful short films, student loan debt, using grant money for good and the hilarity of sci-fi's white apocalypses. About Roberto Fatal Roberto Fatal [they/them/ellos] is a Meztize Chicana filmmaker and storyteller. They come from Rarámuri, Genízaro, and Spanish ancestry. Their Queer, gender fluid, Mestize/Mixed identity informs the sci-fi, films they make. Their work centers on humans who sit at the intersections of time, space and culture. From this unique vantage point, these characters can bridge divides, see all sides, find new paths forward and recall multiple histories long forgotten. The mixed people of Fatal’s stories can connect us deeply to an undercurrent of humanity that we often overlook in a world that is increasingly divided. Survival, intersectional identity, perseverance, love, empathy, community, connection and creation are at the heart of their characters and films. Fatal is a Sundance Film Institute Native Film Lab  Fellow Alum and an Imagine Native Director's Lab feature film fellow alum.  Their debut feature script, ELECTRIC HOMIES, was selected by GLAAD x The Black List as one of the best unproduced screenplays of 2022 and was awarded the 2023 SFFILM Rainin Screenwriting Grant. Learn more about Roberto's work here: https://robfatal.myportfolio.com/video-art-and-film