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Nerding Out on ABA

Author: Katie Saint, PhD, LPC, BCBA-D and Ashley Lyons, BCBA

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Two behaviors analyst’s nerding out hard over their love for this field and what compassionate and ethical ABA looks like!
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What is evidence-based practice and why should it matter to behavior therapists? In this episode, listen to Ashley and Katie nerd out about the evidence-based pyramid and the ethics of evidence-based practice! Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. Resources mentioned in the episode: National Autism Center - National Standards ProjectNational Professional Development Center - Evidence-based PracticesNational Clearinghouse on Autism and Evidence Based PracticeThe Evidence-Based Practice of Applied Behavior AnalysisIs ACT evidence-based?
What is feedback from a behavioral perspective and how to we ensure we are using and applying it effectively with in our field? Listen to Katie and Ashley nerd out about what we do know about feedback and how we can change our behavior of providing feedback to better serve our supervisees. 
In this episode, Ashley interviews special guest Rose Griffin. She is a rarity in our field, being dual certified in ABA and SLP. She is passionate about helping individuals with autism find their voice and become more independent communicators. Her experiences inspired her to create her own business, http://www.abaspeech.org, where she provides ASHA approved courses, hosts The Autism Outreach Podcast, and shares therapy materials and free resources for parents and professionals. Listen to us nerd out about working together!!This episode counts as a CEU so if you are interested in obtaining credit for listening, please click this link and follow the instructions on the form. CEU Learning Objectives:Identify why it is important to collaborate with other professionals.Identify reasons that a professional may be reluctant to coordinate care.  Understand and utilize the Communication Bill of Rights.  Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. Resources mentioned in the Episode: Broadhead collaboration articleCommunication Bill of Rights LAMP premium support Interprofessional Collaborative Practice Between Behavior Analysts and Speech-Language Pathologists
Nerding Out on ABA brings in the new year with a special guest, Chloe Rothschild. She is 30-years old, diagnosed with Austin Spectrum Disorder (ASD), and has been a strong advocate in the field. Chloe co-wrote the My Interoception Workbook: A Guide for Adolescents, Teens, and Adults with Kelly Mahler MS, OTR/L and Jarvis Alma, another self-advocate. Listen to Ashley and Katie nerd out with Chloe about her experiences (both good and bad) and her involvement in the development of the Interoception Workbook. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. Chloe's website: www.chloerothschildasd.com Follow Chloe's Facebook pageResources mentioned in this episode: 1. The Interoception Workbook 2. The Big Book of Interoception Games 
In this episode, Ashley and Katie nerd out about their love for ABA by relating it to their own behaviors. Listen to them share some of their own experiences and transformations as they grew and learned in the field of behavior analysis. 
Punishment and mental health have a bad rep, but we can change that with ABA! In this episode, Ashley and Katie get technical about stimulus equivalence and dive into relational frame theory to analyze how we can contribute to the positive relational framing of punishment and mental health diagnoses.This episode counts as a CEU so if you are interested in obtaining credit for listening, please click this link and follow the instructions on the form.  CEU Learning Objectives:Define stimulus equivalence, the three types of stimulus-stimulus relations, and provide examples. Provide a basic definition and understanding of relational frame theory. Identify the relationship between stimulus equivalence and relational frame theory. Identify behaviors you can engage in to contribute to the positive relational framing of punishment and mental health diagnoses. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. Resources mentioned in this episode: PEAK Relational Training SystemLearning RFTContextualscience.org 
There is a lot of debate on whether or not ABA can and should be used to target mentalistic or psychological behaviors such as anxiety and depression. The good news is, mental health diagnoses are essentially a list of behaviors and ABA is all about targeting behaviors!! The bad news is, there is a large language and terminology barrier we need to overcome. Listen to Ashley and Katie nerd out in this episode about treating mental health with ABA. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. Click here for Katie's CEU mentioned at the end of the podcast. 
The experimental and applied sciences of behavior inform us of the principles and laws we use in practice. However, there can be large gaps between what the science says and what the real life situation looks like for one individual person and/or family unit. Listen to Ashley and Katie nerd out about the difference between experimental behavior analysis, applied behavior analysis, and practice guided by behavioral principles, why the gap between the science and practice exists, and some tips on what we can do as practitioners to keep getting better!  Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. 
Sometimes the ethics code can seem like a barrier and cause frustration in delivering treatment, but it does exist for very good reasons. Listen to Ashley and Katie nerd out about a few of the controversial and/or challenging codes in our field and why they are important even though they can make you want to engage in SIB some days! This episode counts as 1 CEU so if you are interested in obtaining credit for listening, please click this link and follow the instructions on the form. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. 
What is aversive therapy? What is contingent shock therapy (CCS)? Should we subject one of our most vulnerable populations to such practices? Listen to Ashley and Katie nerd out about their strong feelings against painful and punishing applied behavior analysis (ABA) and advocate for a therapy that promotes positive-based intervention, person centered growth, and focuses on the values of the individual, their family, and the community in which they live. This episode counts as 1 CEU so if you are interested in obtaining credit for listening, please click this link and follow the instructions on the form. CEU Learning Objectives:Define the use and purpose of CESS. Identify ways in which CESS can be harmful. Identify ethics codes to consider when considering the use of punishment. Develop an argument for or against the use of CESS. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. Resources mentioned in this episode: Pain and Shock in AmericaShouting at Leaves
How do you know Katie and Ashley are ABA nerds? They love the field so much that they are eager to learn and grow outside of changing individual behavior. Listen to them nerd out hard on a topic within the field that doesn’t get the attention it deserves, Organizational Behavior Management, easier known as OBM. In this episode, you will learn tips and resources on how to create a more positive work space for your organization. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. 
What does it look like to ethically treat adult clients that can lead independent lives? Find out with our guest Carlos Torres, Director of the Transitions Program of Fox Valley Autism Treatment Program located in Appleton, WI. Listen to him nerd out with Ashley and Katie about how his passion for helping others led him to developing an assessment and full functioning treatment program (among other awesome resources!) for adults on the autism spectrum.  Follow us on Instagram and Facebook.  Resources mentioned in this episode:  Transitions ProgramSTAR Assessment Online STAR Assessment HardcopyAwkward Autism and Depression Teacher Pay Teachers Young Adult Resources 
There's a debate on whether or not teaching social skills is ethical and whether we should be targeting them with Applied Behavior Analysis. Listen to Ashley and Katie nerd out about why it's important to not only validate and listen to the community and individuals receiving services, but also ensure they are being taught skills to help them more successfully build their own social relationships. This episode counts as 1 CEU so if you are interested in obtaining credit for listening, please click this link and follow the instructions on the form. CEU Learning Objectives:Identify scientific research and principles that support teaching social skills.Identify ethics codes that apply and situations that occur in which it could be unethical to teach social skills. Define masking and identify ways in which you can prevent teaching masking. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. 
What is verbal behavior and how can we be sure we are ethically targeting it? Ashley and Katie have their first guest, Brad Brezinksi, BCBA on their fifth episode to nerd out about ethically teaching verbal behavior.Also, this episode counts as a CEU so if you are interested in obtaining credit for listening, please click this link and follow the instructions on the formFollow us on Instagram and Facebook. 
Why is it is so important to care about yourself? Ashley and Katie nerd out in their fourth episode on how it isn't selfish to do self-care. On the contrary, it's actually part of our ethical code to take care of ourselves!Follow us on Instagram and Facebook.Resources mentioned in this episode: Bringing Out the Best in People Defy
What is ACT therapy and how can it help you become a more ethical and compassionate ABA therapist? Listen to Ashley and Katie nerd out about how much they love Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and share some experiences with it in their own lives.This episode counts as 1.5 CEUs so if you are interested in obtaining credit for listening, please click this link and follow the instructions on the form. CEU Learning Objectives:Identify why ACT Therapy is controversial in the field. Identify the 6 processes of ACT therapy. Be able to apply the 6 ACT processes to at least one aspect of your daily life. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. Resources mentioned in this episode: Get out of your Mind and Into your LifeSteven HayesAIM (Accept. Identify. Move.)The Happiness Trap
What About Extinction

What About Extinction

2022-02-1345:31

Did you know that extinction is happening in everyday life, sometimes and often without us even knowing or noticing it?! That's right, extinction is inevitable in the science of behavior. Unfortunately, extinction can be applied ethically or unethically. How do we as clinicians ensure that we are only using and applying the method of extinction ethically? Listen to Katie and Ashley nerd out about their thoughts and suggestions on the topic in this episode of Nerding Out on ABA! Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. 
History of ABA

History of ABA

2022-01-3037:37

Ashley and Katie nerd out on their love for the field of ABA and introduce their podcast. Topics include how our field has some healing to do and how ABA and Psychology can be BFFs. Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. 
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