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Technical deep dives with the entrepreneurs and developers building the decentralized economics networks which make up the Interchain. The Interop is hosted by crypto investor and podcaster @seb3point0.
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Passage improves virtual experiences and collaboration, making them more organic and immersive and better reflecting the way we interact in real life. For creators, Passage is a platform that enables nearly unlimited creative freedom thanks to its use of the Unreal Engine. This allows creators to build unique experiences for their communities. How does this relate to crypto? The $PASG token is the economic foundation for a new creator economy where community members own their identity and digital assets.Consider staking with Interop Ventures 🥩TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:17:09 Is the Metaverse Dead?00:22:06 What is Passage00:31:10 How to Use Passage00:35:39 Crypto-Enabled Communities00:41:29 Cosmos SDK Architecture00:44:21 Akash Partnership00:53:59 Passage Elite00:57:38 RoadmapLINKSPassage's WebsiteGUESTSLex on TwitterLex on LinkedInSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
Abstract is an Interchain app platform enabling developers to build across CosmWasm-supported chains. Apps built with Abstract get automatic integrations with Interchain DEXes, lending markets, oracles, and liquid staking protocols.The core infrastructure is the Abstract Account, a smart contract wallet extendable with Abstract modules. One exciting use case is mesh applications, where chains form an Interchain DAO to vote on and fund public goods at a supra-chain level.Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00 Introduction02:33 CosmWasm Berlin Hackathon10:14 Evolution of CosmWasm 15:20 What is Abstract 24:21 Security32:06 Abstract-JS 34:36 Integrations36:11 Modulars37:48 IBC Email40:50 Abstract & EVM apps GUESTSAdair on XAbstract on XSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
Join us in this episode where we discover how Initia's vertically integrated tech stack seamlessly connects their L1s with application-specific L2 chains, enabling efficient inter-chain communication and solving the traditional fragmentation of multichain systems. We also explore the variety of development tools available (EVM, MoveVM & WasmVM), which simplify app deployment and significantly reduce the complexity for developers. Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:08:36 Appchains Debate00:14:35 Tackling Fragmentation00:17:31 Building on Initia00:25:05 Inside L2s 00:27:13 Role of Sequencers00:29:26 Scaling Limits00:30:33 L1s Services00:36:13 IBC Implementation00:37:57 Custom Modules00:40:06 OPinit Stack 00:41:59 VMs Integration 00:48:03 RaaS Market Competition00:52:59 Testnet OpportunitiesLINKSInitia's WebsiteGUESTSStan on TwitterZon on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
Join us in this episode as we explore how DoraHacks advances the hacker movement. Learn about Dora Factory's innovative public good staking and decentralized funding infrastructures. We also discuss Dora Vota's role in enabling fair and private community governance through Anonymous Minimal Anti-Collusion Infrastructure (aMACI). Additionally, we deep dive into the appchain thesis and how projects benefit from running their own sovereign chains over building on monolithic L1s.Consider staking with Interop Ventures TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:02:22 DoraHacks Overview00:10:51 Appchain Thesis00:20:11 L2s Thesis00:30:00 Cosmos SDK Evolution00:37:34 Solana Appchain Thesis00:45:58 Dora Factory & Dora Vota 00:52:08 MACI & aMACI Voting01:03:21 DoraHacks RoadmapLINKSDoraHacksMinimal Anti-Collusion InfrastructureVota: Special Purpose Blockchain for VotingWhat Will aMACI Unlock? Inevitability of UNIchainGUESTSEric Zhang on Twitter Brian Breslow on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on TwitterThe Interop on Twitter
Join us as we explore the innovative integration of AI in DeFi with Daniel Machlup from FortyTwo. FortyTwo is building the interface layer for cross-chain DeFi, tackling a critical challenge in the rapidly growing multi-chain ecosystem. The goal is simple, make cross-chain user experience easy for both users and protocols. Tune in to see how AI is reshaping crypto asset management, making it as simple as expressing your intention. Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:03:25 Building on Cosmos  00:05:45 Cosmos SDK Advantages00:08:33 Exploring FortyTwo00:16:03 Infrastructure Providers00:17:38 Solver Marketplace00:38:31 Architecture00:39:53 Wallet UX Enhancements00:42:04 Osmosis Smart Accounts00:44:14 Beta Launch OverviewLINKSFortyTwoGUESTSDaniel Machlup on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on TwitterThe Interop on Twitter
Join us as we delve into the complexities of risk management in decentralized finance (DeFi), where Alterscope pioneers with its risk ZK coprocessor and zero-knowledge proof technology to tackle unique challenges such as liquidity and protocol risks. Uncover how Alterscope's advanced tools not only quantify new kinds of risks but also offer a dynamic platform for effectively modeling and managing them, including a detailed look at the crucial data sets used for assessing oracle risks to ensure DeFi's data reliability.Consider staking with Interop Ventures 🥩 TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:04:16 Crypto Risk Management00:10:13 Pricing Web3 Risk00:13:22 TradiFi vs DeFi Risk Management00:15:16 Understanding Alterscope00:21:42 Oracle Risks00:27:26 Risk Marketplace Participants00:37:41 Enhancing DeFi Yield Strategies00:40:53 Restaking00:46:08 Staking Providers Risks00:51:06 Impact on Future of DeFi00:55:30 Product RoadmapLINKSAlterscopeGUESTSMarijo on TwitterBenedikt on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
Discover Jackal Protocol in this episode as we delve into its decentralized storage solution, enhancing blockchain interoperability and real-time data access through its Cosmos Layer 1 platform. Learn how Jackal ensures data reliability with advanced redundancy and frequent verification, supporting a wide array of Web3 applications. Consider staking with Interop VenturesTOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:06:58 Decentralised storage00:13:45 DePIN is a hot topic00:16:06 Jackal - how it works00:25:47 Role of the Cosmos SDK module00:27:09 EVM Contracts00:28:37 Jackal Proof-of-Persistence (JPOP)00:41:13 Most exciting use cases00:46:44 Tokenomics & Economics of Perpetual Storage00:57:51 Interoperability & IBCLINKSJackal Protocol Jackal LabsJackal Proof-of-Persistence (JPOP)​GUESTSPatrick on TwitterMarston on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
Electron Labs aggregates zero-knowledge proofs across protocols into a single superproof, which is then verified on Ethereum. Thanks to the use of recursive ZK proofs, this collective approach lowers verification costs to less than 1% of current rates. This is a huge unlock for applications leveraging ZK: Privacy, micro rollups, DA bridges, IBC, and more.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:02:56 Cost of ZK proof verification00:07:10 ZK proofs & Rollups00:14:36 ZK light client00:16:52 Superproofs00:22:28 Electron trust assumptions00:24:14 Electron's Architecture00:31:27 Challenges00:34:38 Electron SDK00:44:00 Interoperability and IBC00:48:43 Union & Polymer approach00:52:55 ZK Proof endgame LINKSElectron LabsElectron Labs on TwitterGUESTSGarvit on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on TwitterThe Interop on Twitter
Rollchains introduce new ways to build, maintain and scale Cosmos chains. New and existing Cosmos SDK chains can enable the Rollchains module to post block data to Celestia. Built with POA chains in mind, Rollchains promises to reduce the cost of securing chains while maintaining a high Nakamoto coefficient, potentially transforming the tokenomics of chains that struggle to cover the inflationary cost of maintaining a validator set. TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:02:46 Blockchain gaming00:05:41 Cosmos design philosophy 00:12:15 Cosmos Alignment00:17:58 Why build a rollchain00:25:37 IBC & interoperability00:30:34 Rollchain Cosmos SDK module00:37:27 Rollchain DA support00:39:12 Roll Apps Vs. Rollchains00:41:41 Working with Ethos00:47:06 Long-term future of Ethereum00:48:58 Thoughts on Movement00:53:18 Polymer and Union00:54:16 Skip: Unsung Heroes of CosmosGUESTSJack on TwitterLINKSRollchainsStrangeloveSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
Q protocol is a decentralized governance layer for Web3 that allows developers to build organizational constitutions that are enforced by smart contracts and include off-chain avenues for resolving disputes the code can't deal with. Built as a fully EVM-compatible Layer 1 for maximum security, the protocol is live with a full set of infra and applications supporting the ecosystem. It prevents governance exploits and reduces legal and regulatory risks associated with centralized decision making.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:06:52 Governance by code00:10:44 Practical cases where DAO governance has failed00:19:30 What is Q and how does it make a difference00:22:58 Beyond Code is law00:27:15 The Q Consititution00:34:41 Stakeholders in the Q blockchain00:37:21 The role of the token holders00:40:57 Difference between validators and root nodes00:45:29 Expert panels and their roles00:47:58 Q Token holders' competence to vote00:49:52 The practical steps in this mechanism00:55:25 Do you need to build your DAO on Q00:57:16 Integration with Q00:59:53 Network stakes01:02:38 The worrying US tax system01:05:20 Discussion on decentralised AI01:08:02 DeFi is going nowhere01:12:47 Learn more about QGUESTSNicolas on TwitterLINKSQ WhitepaperSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
Informal Systems is a Cosmos contributor that works on the Cosmos Hub, which is the first blockchain in the Interchain. The Cosmos Hub is one of thousands of blockchains that will eventually make up the Cosmos Network. The Hub's primary token is ATOM, but it will support many other tokens in the future. Interchain Security is one of the main services the Cosmos Hub provides. It enables other blockchains to be secured through Proof-of-Stake (PoS) by the ATOM token, which holds one of the largest market capitalizations in the interchain ecosystem.TOPICS00:00:00 - Introduction00:02:20 - 5th anniversary of the hub00:04:13 - Shift in the vision of Cosmos SDK00:07:59 - The role of a Cosmos Hub Lead00:12:44 - Business development and its role under Informal Systems00:19:32 - Shared security on the hub - Interchain Security00:26:19 - The shift in vision00:31:20 - The subset problem00:38:41 - The old way vs the new00:42:15 - The babylon partnership - additional security00:48:20 - How the hub competes in the landscape00:50:21 - Ethos and what they're building00:53:24 - Cosmos Alignment and how it's perceived00:55:46 - The end gameLINKSBabylon Bitcoin SecurityInterchain Security: Partial Set SecurityComos-Ethereum ConvergingAtomic composability - IBCAtom WarsSOCIAL MEDIA (Twitter)Sebastien CoutureThe Interop
Eclipse Fi is a revolutionary hub for interchain token launches, bringing the value back into the hands of early communities. Eclipse Mainnet, launching in Q1 2024, is the fastest Ethereum L2, powered by the SVM. With an architecture that combines the best pieces of the modular stack, developers get all the benefits of dedicated throughput with none of the downsides. Eclipse makes it possible to build applications that can coordinate masses of people and scale with any developer’s needs.TOPICS00:00:00 - Introduction00:06:46 - Terra's Collapse00:10:27 - the next cycle of token launches00:20:23 - Centralised vs Decentralised platforms 00:22:49 - Implementing KYC & compliance for projects00:27:15 - The vision for eclipse00:31:32 - Benefits of launching projects on Eclipse00:35:16 - Supported launch mechanisms00:37:47 - Reputation on the user side00:41:07 - CIBIL00:43:11 - How zkKYC works00:47:17 - Liquidity hub00:54:20 - Why Eclipse was built on Neutron00:57:29 - Roadmap for Eclipse FiGUESTSSimon on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIA (Twitter)Sebastien CoutureThe Interop
Skip Protocol helps sovereign blockchain protocols supercharge their blockspace to improve user experience, enhance interoperability, and enrich network stakeholders. The protocol has recently unveiled Slinky, an “Oracle” aggregator designed for perpetual markets and DeFi as a whole.TOPICS00:02:10 - Major Developments at Skip00:04:40 - The slinky announcement00:14:15 - Use cases for Slinky00:21:10 - The architecture and how validators are coordinating 00:25:11 - Levana Attack in relation to the architecture00:27:14 - Pricing and Slashing00:35:18 - Is there a compromise?00:38:16 - What vulnerabilities and attacks can Slinky prevent00:45:15 - The opportunity cost of using Skip00:48:36 - How it fits in the modular stack00:53:51 - Slinky:The Rolls Royce of Oracles00:59:18 - Slinky's origin and potential customers01:03:02 - ConclusionLINKSGitHub - Skip-mev How Slinky can prevent Oracle Manipulation AttacksSlinky: Twitter AnnouncementGUESTSMaghnus on TwitterSkip's WebsiteSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
MilkyWay is a liquid staking solution for the Celestia ecosystem, initially starting its deployment and operation on Osmosis. When individuals liquid stake their TIA coins through MilkyWay, they obtain an on-chain representation of their TIA staking position, termed as milkTIA. This allows Celestia token holders to access liquidity for their staked assets, facilitating trading or their utilization as collateral in different DeFi products.TOPICS00:06:27 - When did the protocol launch?00:07:43 - Growth and support from the community00:08:25 - Liquid staking00:10:09 - What is liquid staking evolving into00:12:25 - What is Milky Way?00:14:38 - Where can people use their MilkTIA00:17:23 - The design00:26:13 - The agent and how it interacts with the multisig00:31:59 - Fudding the multisig00:34:22 - Purpose of the contract00:38:23 - How the validators are chosen00:47:56 - Milky Way's position in the liquid staking space00:51:54 - Endgame for Milky Way in the Celestia ecosystem00:55:38 - The roadmapLINKSMilky WayAuthZ Delegated MultisigGUESTSJayB on LinkedInFabo on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
Lava is a modular data network for scaling access to any blockchain. The network can flexibly support any RPC and API. Lava works with rollups and blockchains to consolidate and improve their node infrastructure. Providers are rewarded for their quality of service, so your users can fetch data and send transactions with speed, data integrity and uptime. Lava helps developers build web3-native apps on any chain.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:05:48 Lava's USP00:10:22 Uber for blockchain data00:13:39 RPC and Relayers00:23:26 Lava's paradigm and how it works00:31:47 How does the matching happen?00:39:48 Clustering mechanism00:42:29 Participants in Lava functionality00:51:55 Modular Stack - Lava's contribution00:56:10 Light Clients 01:01:04 Road to mainnet LINKSLava on TwitterGUESTSOmer Mishael on Linkedin------------------------------------SOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
Movement Labs is a modular framework to build and deploy Move-based infrastructure, applications, and blockchains in any distributed environment. They offer an open network for creators to build and grow. The team is building a suite of products and services that empower non-Move protocols to leverage the power of the Move Programming Language without writing a single lineof Move code. TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:04:58 EVM is going to zero00:12:33 Overview of Movement00:16:25 M2: Roll up framework00:18:27 Decision tree for a developer00:20:51 Noble and Union Partnership00:25:41 Fractal module: Backwards Compatibility 00:28:50 Risky Opcodes in Ethereum00:31:50 Native USDC00:33:36 How move benefits IBC00:35:12 Future of Cosmos00:40:08 Long term compatibility between VMs00:42:55 Movement Labs: Parthenon Roadmap00:44:35 Decentralised Share Sequencer00:47:24 Validators for M100:48:30 Token and Air Drop?00:48:59 Community program00:51:33 ETF ApprovalLINKSM2 Announcement Movement + Noble + Union PartnershipMovement RoadmapEthereum Opcodes GUESTSRushi Manche on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien Couture on TwitterThe Interop on Twitter
Levana is a decentralized exchange protocol designed to enable leveraged positions for any asset. Levana enables permission-less, censorship-resistant Capital efficient markets. Levana is the only platform with zero insolvency risk, so your PnL is always safe. Currently market launches and configuration is permissioned, but Levana's goal is to create a permissionless protocol which enables anyone to be able to launch a leveraged market for any asset.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:01:55 The ETF Approval00:06:28 Ben Franklin with laser eyes00:12:30 The token launch00:24:23 Attack timeline00:28:30 Details of the attack00:29:04 Targeted pools00:34:09 Oracle Exploitation & how it works00:42:16 Other oracle solutions00:46:55 Learnings from the attack00:49:50 Mitigation and relaunch00:57:42 Thoughts on adding LVN tokens & Staking01:00:22 Positive outlook for LevanaLINKSInitial Security AlertLevana exploit postmortemDelta price attack explainedJacob Gabikian post on p2p stormGUESTSJonathan on Twitter Levana on TwitterSOCIAL MEDIASebastien CoutureThe Interop
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Consider staking with Interop Ventures XION is the first L1 purpose built for mass consumer adoption through its Generalized Abstraction layer. It is a paradigm shift, paving the way for mainstream adoption of Web3 by enabling seamless user experiences for everyday users through protocol-level implementations. It focuses on accounts, signatures, payments, interoperability, devices, and pricing. TOPICS 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:09 Burnt Banksy 00:05:12 Early NFT Projects 00:07:34 Nobody gives a shit about crypto 00:12:06 What is XION 00:13:30 XION in comparison to other protocols 00:15:51 Generalized Abstraction 00:18:37 Integration with other chains 00:21:19 Advantage of integrating with XION 00:23:28 Meta accounts and how it works 00:27:50 Abstraction 2.0 do we need a wallet anymore? 00:30:59 Onboarding legacy accounts 00:38:15 Too much power to Apple and Google 00:40:20 Parameterised Fee Layer 00:47:13 The Mint module 00:54:53 Why XION chose Cosmos LINKS XION Whitepaper: GUESTS Burnt Banksy: ------------------------------------ SOCIAL MEDIA Sebastien Couture: The Interop:
Binary Builders is a leading group of builders in the Interchain ecosystem providing a range of services with the goal to help build the future of Web3. They serve as the primary maintainer of the Cosmos SDK. Binary Builders authored the Atom Alignment thesis posted to the Cosmos Hub Forum which focuses on AEZ Growth, financial alignment w/ consumer chains, and increasing decentralization of the Hub's voting power.TOPICS00:00:00 Introduction00:05:20 What is Binary Builders?00:08:54 Interchain Builders Program00:11:28 Business development in Cosmos00:16:52 Areas of research00:21:51 Atom Alignment - 3 modules00:26:02 Growing Atom & AEZ00:30:15 KPI's to look for00:33:41 Details of the treasury00:39:02 Should all proposals go through governance?00:45:54 Voting on Telegram - IBC Bot00:48:01 Drip Module - How it works00:51:32 Building on Cosmos SDK vs Cosmwasm00:56:13 The Hub, AEZ & the future01:00:11 Chain features & Atom as money01:00:58 The Hub's most valuable attribute01:02:26 Thoughts on Sunny's take?01:07:56 Next steps with alignment treasuryLINKSBinary BuildersMessari State of Cosmos Hub: Alignment Forum Post: Governance Proposal for Atom Alignment: Bot: https://ibc.botGUESTSCreators & Guests Noam Cohen - Guest Sebastien Couture - Host