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The Leader Learner podcast is for readers and leaders of all kinds.
Rather than talk to authors about the professional development books that they have written, the Leader Learner podcast spotlights readers and delves into their process the book(s) that have had an impact on them and their work.
This podcast is brought to you by Theresa Destrebecq, founder of Emerge Book Circles.
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Send us a text💡 SPOTLIGHTED BOOK : Unbound by Kasia Urbaniak 📚 GUEST READER : Lucy Chambers💬 CONVERSATION HIGHLIGHTS:when managing 2 opposing views together ( a Taoist Nun and a Dominatrix)power is connected to our attention and where we direct itDominant Position - attention outSubmissive Position - attention inLink to coaching and coaches not setting the agendapower is about influence and nothing elseboth types of attention have value"The SMUSH" - when we flip flop between the two states of...
1Send us a text💡 SPOTLIGHTED BOOK : First Things First by Stephen R. Covey 📚 GUEST READER : Maha Bali💬 CONVERATION HIGHLIGHTS:it's a life management book and how to prioritizeimagining the end of your life and what people will say about youLive, Love, Learn and Leave a Legacyvisualization where you attend your own funeralwhen what is written on paper and what you do in real time does not matchDo our personal goals interfere with our institution's goals?Switch careers in order to focus on...
Send us a text💡 SPOTLIGHTED BOOK : Wild Mind by Bill Plotkin📚 GUEST READER : Andrei Stoicescu💬 CONVERATION HIGHLIGHTS:growing from a place of unknowingnot knowing where/when you will learn - it can happen at any timewe often forget that we are a part of natureeco-psychology lenswe live in an ecosystem and don't recognize our interdependenceeco-centric -- start from the place of recognizing the nature and niche around usyou can work with metaphor without understanding ityou can live beyond kno...
Send us a textLIVRE: Les structures fondamentales des sociétés humaines de Bernard LahireINVITÉ : Aïda KonéResumé:Comprendre les groupes humainsPsychologie - focus sur l'individuelSociologie - focus sur le groupeRacines communes entre les groupes Identifiez les différentes strates -- dimensions biologiques, sociales et culturellesPour un facilitateur ou coach d'équipe, c'est bien de savoir où tu vas réagir le groupe -- par quelle coucheLes couches sont bien mélanges Comment on est é...
Send us a textSpotlight Book: That's What She Said by Joanne LipmanGuest : Dominique Ara Conversation Highlights:soft skills are people to peopletransgender experiences can give a peak into how our gender biases show uphard to recognize that we live in a man's worldnot only men interrupt women - women do it toowe're not dreaming - the experience of the world is different if you are a man or a womanneed more sponsors versus mentorsmentors - give us advice, been there before, tactical appr...
Send us a textSPOTLIGHTED BOOK: The Perfectionists Guide to Losing Control by Katherine Morgan SchaflerGUEST READER : Viktoriia Berezhna CONVERSATION HIGHLIGHTS:Perfectionism evolves over time when we challenge our beliefsPreparing does help, but doesn't change perfectionismThe 5 Kinds of Perfectionists : Classic, Intense, Messy, Procrastinator, ParisianIntense - really high expectations for self and others and get intense if expectations not metProcrastinator Perfectionist - wait until ...
Send us a textSPOTLIGHTED BOOK: Moose Heads on the Table by Karin Tenelius and Lisa GillGUEST READER : Alejandro Garcia MachucaCONVERSATION TOPICS:Leadership is something you step in and out of. It's too heavy to be a leadership all the time.Self managed organizations don't have managers - they distribute the power and authority among the employeesWhen people take ownership for their work, they don't need managersManager as the person who clears the way for others to do their work3 Big Lesson...
Send us a textSPOTLIGHTED BOOK : Images of Organization by Gareth MorganGUEST READER : Vincent MusolinoCONVERSATIONAL TOPICS : We talk of organizations as metaphorsWe speak in metaphors and storiesSome metaphors are older than timeAnalysis of what we do, drawn from metaphorsThe 8 Metaphors - Orgs and Machines, Organisms Brains, Cultures, Political Systems, Psychic Prisons, Flux and Transformation, Instruments of DominationMetaphors drive our images and our language, and thus our st...
Send us a textCheck-In:What actor or actress would play you in the movie version of your life? Episode 1:Power is for everyonePower is an expression of our relationships within groupsPower over and power to are different How different types of power unconsciously drive usEpisode 2:Unleashing is allowingWho is doing the unleashing? Purpose is in relationship to othersPurpose is temporary People can do the same job but find different meaningPurpose vs meaningEpisode 3:Belief...
Send us a textSUMMARY:In this episode, Vincent and Theresa chat about some Gallup data around employee engagement across the world. Who is actively disengaged at work? Who is not engaged? Who is engaged?Check-In:What's at the top of your bucket list? Big Ideas:professional bucket list the success racewhen we buy things to make us happyConnection between engagement and successCompany tap into personal engagementLet people be engaged how they want to be engagedLebanon - highest percen...
Send us a textCheck-In: What's your favorite place in your neighborhood?Big Ideas: Common issues in phone-based children now adults - social isolation, sleep deprivation, attention fragmentation, addictionLack of in-person interactions and conflict, leaves them unable to resolve conflict in realityDopamine addiction online, leads to cycle of waiting for acknowledgementJudging people in ways that we wouldn't do in real timeCancel culture emphasized online Sense of community is s...
Send us a textCheck-In:What has recently become less important to you?Big Ideas:Look at the lattice of the organization, not just the ladderLeap between individual contributor and managerNo change of nature between the different levels of managers - shift in intensity, but not the nature of the workDevelop a network of people at and around your levelAt some point you'll be playing the game, so need a wide network to support youHow do we define a "good working relationship" with your manager?B...
Send us a textCheck-In: What's giving you hope right now? Big Ideas:What constitutes inequity?When your unbelonging can connect you with other people who feel unbelongingGender equity issues not coming up in some leadership trainings Cultural and country differences in gender equityCalling out misogynistic jokes - Should I? Context dependent?"isms" as part of the air we breathe - it's conditioned into usCreating the system and benefitting from it - are they separateUnconscious bias ...
Send us a textCheck-In:Which projects give you energy?Big Ideas:3 skills that lead to successful groups: building safety, sharing vulnerability, establishing purposecohesive groups - telling stories and reminding one another what they stand formurmuration - how birds move togetherusing small signals to link the present moment to the future idealorganizations that don't have a purpose, mission, vision, etc. the challenge of extracting a purposehow to detect weak signals and act on themgoi...
Send us a textCheck-In: Do think the best time of your life is in the past, present, or futureBig Ideas:flexibility in work schedules - what do we need to do sothe equipment that supports remote workingshifting mindsets around traditional ways of workingshifting schedules to accommodate global clientssense of freedom in being able to shift your scheduleflexing people's pay to allow for flexible schedulesBe present, be equipped, be allowedCompressed work week - had to create the modelKeep...
Send us a textCheck-In: If you could live anywhere, where would you live and why?Big Ideas: when books make leadership seem easy, when it's not5 elements that every team needs to function well together, written as a pyramidusing books as a guide can lead us down the wrong pathThe 5 Dysfunctions are: Absence of Trust, Fear of Conflict, Lack of Commitment, Avoidance of Accountability, and Inattention to ResultsLencioni is anti-consensusCan people have results without trust? (example -...
Send us a textCheck-In:How did you spend your summer breaks as a child?Big Ideas:How do you know when connection exists in a group?The importance of having care/connection when giving feedbackConnection is not the same as relationshipFeel a connection to someone without a relationshipA relationship can exist without fully knowing someoneTrusting character versus trusting someone's competenciesTrust: Competence, Kindness, ReliabilityBRAVING Model of Trust (Brené Brown): Boundaries, Reliability...
Send us a textCheck-In:In your opinion, when is innovation overused?Big Ideas:Binary questions - Are they useful or not? Are creating and innovating the same?Moving from being salaried to hourly and the implications/impact it hadFeeling of liberation being hourly rather than salariedSense of equity - treating all of us the sameMental load and how it's often not counted in salariesSense of autonomy in deciding to work or notWorking to deserve the salarySpace for thinking/reflecting separa...
Send us a textCheck-In: What cause would you be willing to give up your life for?Big Ideas:gratitude can help us out of dark placesattitude of gratitude is not the same as a practice of gratitudegratitude practice as a daily ritualgratitude as a feeling, not necessarily saying "Thank you."feeling proud rather than just luckyWho are you grateful for who supported something you are proud of?Characteristics that supported the achievement - who helped to develop those characteristics in you? ...
Send us a textCheck-In:Which superpower would you like to have? Big Ideas:Definitions of authentic leadershipAuthentic leaders deeply understand their values, strength and purpose and use that to motivate and inspire othersThe ability of people to tell their own stories and help people connect to that story4 Dimensions of Authentic Leadership: Self-Awareness, Relational Transparency, Balanced Process, and Internal Moral PerspectiveVulnerability is a strength not a weaknessHow our unconsc...
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