The Mormon Renegade Podcast

Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products https://gofund.me/37ee9079   One of the things that often rocks the testimony of Mormons is when the historicity of the Book of Mormon is questioned, and it appears that there are some conflicts between science and the Book of Mormon. The truth is however that usually what is thrown into question isn’t the historicity of the Book of Mormon itself but rather narratives that we as individuals read into the text. This is never more on display than when the issue of DNA raised as a critique to the Book of Mormon. I mean if the Book of Mormon is true and details the account of a Middle Eastern family’s settlement of a portion of the New World, we should expect that DNA from Middle Eastern people and some native American populations should match right? Well maybe not as much as you would think. Ken Peterson joins me again on the podcast to break all of this down. By the end I think you might find out like I did that many of the so-called conflicts between the Book of Mormon and DNA research are more conflicts between the narratives we read into the Book of Mormon and the DNA research then with the text itself.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

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Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products Well, there’s a lot happening in the world in the coming weeks and months. We have the eclipse happening the day this episode will drop, an upcoming presidential election that promises to be the most if not one of the most contentious in our nation’s history, two proxy wars we are involved in and economic and social instability at home. As I have the opportunity to talk to a number of different people from all sorts of faith traditions the one thing that always comes through to those people even a little bit tuned into to God and that is that there isa feeling that we are hurtling towards an event. Now while it is true that no man know man knows the day or hour of the Saviors return the Lord in his mercy has given us some signs to look for that will give us an indication on where we are at along the road. One of those signs are talked about in Doctrine & Covenants section 13 where the Lord talks about the Sons of Levi offering up sacrifices again in righteousness. What if I told you that one of the big barriers to that happening has been removed? Today on the podcast Joshua Erickson joins me to have a conversation about the re-emergence of the Red Heifer. We talk about the animal’s significance in the Old Testament, The animals re-emergence and the miraculous events surrounding its reappearance, why the red heifer is necessary, and even how this animal was a catalyst for the Hamas attack in Israel back in October, and finally what all this could mean in regards to the Saviors return.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

So there has been a lot of revisionist history that has made its way into Mormon circles as of late in conjunction with this, it has required those pushing these false narratives to either twist or flat out lie about what the scriptures say. With this in mind I want to address some of the lies and wishful thinking. One of the more pernicious ideas is that scripture denounces the practice of celestial plural marriage. Well today I have Jacob Vidrine back on the podcast to address this idea. Jacob and I will breakdown the scriptures (in context) to give you a fuller picture of what the scriptures have to say and not say about the practice of celestial plural marriage. Towards the end of the podcast, I name names of those pushing this narrative and also the repercussions of buying into those lies. Grab a pen and paper to take some notes so you can push back on these lies when they arise.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content So about ten years ago I remember sitting around the dinner table with my kids and I remember they said something about the Founding Fathers that was just patently false. I asked where they heard such a thing and they said school. This caused me to look at their curriculum and what I discovered was that certain power brokers on the left had infiltrated public schools and one of their agendas was to discredit the founders so they could “progress” past the constitution. Unfortunately, we are now seeing the same thing happening to Mormonism. There is a movement right now within Mormonism (The Doctrine of Christ Group) that is doing at best revisionist history and at worst just telling flat out lies about Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor and others that were so influential and vital to the Restoration in those early days. They are doing this to discredit that early leadership, by discrediting them they then can turn the Restored Gospel into something that appeals more to their own hearts desires. This type of tactic is not only wrong but insidious. Now a while back Justin Griffin and Taylor Smith had a debate about Griffin’s movie “Who Killed Joseph Smith” where Griffin accuses John Taylor & Willard Richards of killing Hyrum & Joseph. But darn it wouldn’t you know it Griffin marked that debate as private. Well, no need to worry because Taylor still has his copy and is still available on his YouTube Chanel.  Today Taylor joins me on the podcast to have a discussion about the debate. During the course of our conversation, as we breakdown the high points of that debate I think it will become apparent why Griffin might not want this out and circulating. Oh, and just for good measure I have included the link to the full debate in the show notes.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content     As Mormons, whatever branch you might be part of we all have a special commission. We have our personal callings that the Lord gives us, but we also have one that is universal to us all and that is to be the people to help others come to know Christ. As time gets shorter and Gods work continues to hasten, we must be the people that can effectively minister to others. To do this however means that we must be as spiritually heathy as we can be. This means we must clean out the crap in our lives. With that in mind I wanted to go over a few principles that I believe can helps us do that. To help me with this series I am bringing Liz Bradley back on the podcast for this series. Liz is life coach who approaches emotional health from Gospel centered point of view. Today Liz and I have a conversation about forgiveness. As we have our conversation it becomes apparent that this principle might be ground zero to help us have healthier relationships and free us up to become the people we need in these last days. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To ⁠https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade⁠ for free video & access to exclusive content So here we are at the conclusion of the series on the Life & Times Of John W. Taylor. As Michael Ness finish up our conversation there is some amazing historical information dropped that should forever change the conversation around how much Joseph F. Smith new about Post-Manifesto Plural Marriage during his administration. We then dive into the fall out of John W. Taylors excommunication, Francis Lyman’s inquisition of those living and solemnizing plural marriages and along the way there is some pretty pointed questions asked about Mormon hierarchy during this time, and we wrap it all up by talking about what John W. Taylors impact was on not only Mormon Fundamentalists but also the LDS Church as well. That’s next on this episode of the MRP.   --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade   Well some big stuff happened in Mormonism this week. The LDS Church has purchased several historical sites including the Kirtland Temple from the Community of Christ. To help me break this down I have a on gentleman that really needs no introduction in Mormonism. Rod Meldrum joins me on the podcast today to discuss the LDS Churches recent purchase. In our conversation we cover what the LDS Church purchased in Kirtland and Nauvoo, The notable events and significance of those places with in Mormon history, What this means for the world of Mormonism, and along the way Rod drops some pretty fascinating information on the Podcast about the Smith family cemetery that will blow your mind.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

So about a year ago I had an experience that freaked me out a little bit. After saying something about global warming and that I wasn’t sure it was all caused by humans I received a strike on YouTube. A few months later I received another strike for questioning the Covid vaccine. It was for these reasons I went to Patreon. Now it’s been a little more than a year and I think the move to Patreon was good because I could not have started the news show without it. However, it came at a cost. That cost was I could not share the news program, or the videos as freely as I would have liked since it was behind a paywall. In the last year I looked into a few different options, and I think I have found a solution.           Starting March 16th all of my videos for both the podcast and news program will be available to view for free on the Mormon Renegade  Rumble Channel. Now why Rumble? After just watching how they conduct business in allowing different view points on the platform without censorship, and after talking to a few folks I truly feel and believe they are committed to preserving a space which is committed to free speech.            Ok so with that in place here is what this move means to you the audience. From now until March 16th we will be migrating over all the videos to Rumble many of which are available right now. With that from this point forward all the videos I do, both for the Mormon Renegade Podcast as well as the weekly news show (which we have decided to call Fundamental News) will be available to watch for 100% free!!!!          Now these are the two things I do that I feel are of the most importance to you the audience. However I would still like to recapture some of the funds that I spend each month on the podcast and new show. So to help recapture the costs of everything I do I will be offering a few options that you the audience can purchase if you find value in them and here is how that will work.           First I will be closing down the Mormon Renegade Patreon account. I will now be using a similar plat form for the for pay items at the Mormon Renegade Locals page. Locals works very closely with Rumble so it makes it pretty easy and seamless for my purposes.          Now let me tell you what all will be available on the Mormon Renegade Locals page. First Transcripts of the podcast will be available there. Second starting on April 4th every week on Thursdays at 7:00 PM Central I will be live streaming on the Locals page where you the audience and myself will be able to interact live where you can ask me any and all questions, well except for my brisket rub recipe. Somethings are just to sacred to talk about but other than that I welcome your questions and the opportunity to connect more with you the audience. Third about once a quarter there will be What we are calling Renegade Specials. The special presentations will be with other creators who will take deep dives on subjects that will be super interesting and timely to you the audience.  Now here is the coolest part for you the audience. All the media I just explained to you will be available to you to buy for just $5.00 dollars a month. That’s it, no hidden cost, no tiers or options to buy, just $5.00 dollars a month gets you access to all those items.  Also, in the coming weeks I will be giving you some information on The Mormon Renegade Merch Store. You will be able to buy shirts, hats, mugs, water bottles, and anything else I can shamelessly self-promote with. Oh, and those shirts will have a few designs that are really funny as well as a little edgy.     Again I am always more grateful to you the audience then you will ever know. I am thankful for the time you spend listening and watching all the content that is produced, as well as for your continued support. I am super excited to be able to share the video content with you for free as well as to offer you more affordable options for more content.       --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content     Ok I got an amazing conversation for you today. If you remember back to the first episode, I ever did Drew Briney it was about an amazing project that he was working on making an annotated version of the Doctrine & Covenants. Well today Drew comes back on to the podcast to have a conversation about the latest installment of that project, D&C 42. D&C 42 is all about Consecration and United Order. As we breakdown how Drew went about annotating this particular section, we dive head long into what the early leaders of the LDS Church thought about these principles, how it was lived in both the Missouri & Utah periods and what our responsibilities we have as Mormons today have in regards to Consecration & United Order.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content     So we are now on episode number 4 of the series we are doing on the Life and Times Of John W. Taylor. On this episode Michael Ness and I cover a part of Mormon history where the tides really begin to change on the Churches unofficial stance on plural marriage. Now there are two things that really come through on this episode. One is the “band of brothers” mentality that some of the more ardent defenders of the principle had in the quorum of the twelve and even more inspiring than that is perhaps outside of Joseph Smith a personal Christ-like sacrifice made by John W. Taylor and ultimately a betrayal of that sacrifice by some members in the quorum of the twelve that gets my blood boiling and causes me to get a little spicy.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Through out time every murderous dictator has always made sure that special attention was paid to win the hearts and minds of the youth. Mao had the Red Guards, Stalin had the RKSM, and Hitler had the Hitler Youth. Now let me ask you a question. If all of these dictators had a plan for kids, do you think the adversary of us all might have a program dedicated to our youth? If you’re like me the answer is yes. Now if you have any doubts this just look around at how children conduct themselves. When we look objectively at this I think it becomes clear that we are in a war for our children against the adversary. One of his best weapons in this war for our children is to create the absence of parental guidance to our children. Today Nate Richardson comes on the podcast to discuss the collapse of parenting. We go over what our children participating in, what they are exposed to, how the adversary has taken parents out of their roles, and finally what we can do as parents to pick our mantles as parents to fight this war for the souls of our children. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content     So in the last two episodes of this series on the life and times of John W. Taylor you have gotten a master class in Mormon history around the times just preceding and post manifesto. We continue that series today. Last time we left off with pretty much the whole upper leadership of the LDS Church being involved in post manifesto plural marriage. Today Michael Ness and I pick back up in that history. In this episode we cover how small cracks begin to form in the upper leadership, next we dive into a practice that John W Taylor started that would plant the seeds of modern Mormon Fundamentalism, we finish up this part of our conversation by illuminating some history that shows how Heber J Grant went from ardent supporter of post manifesto plural marriage to its most active persecutor.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content     So next week we will pick back up on the John W. Taylor story with Michael Ness. No matter who I talk to, folks from the LDS Church, Mormon Fundamentalists, Baptists, Lutherans, or Catholics one thing seems to be very evident and that is if we are tuned in even a little bit to God we all have the sense that society and the world are hurtling towards an event that feels like it is picking up speed and intensity. Now if we are a religion that focuses on Jesus Christ our minds naturally and rightfully so turn to His Second Coming. Today on the podcast I have on Morgan Philpot. Morgan is a former attorney and Utah Legislator. Because he has been in these circles and is also a devout follower of the Savior, he has some pretty interesting insights. Morgan has put together a really compelling timeline for last days events that I think is worth some conversation. In this episode we have a discussion about that timeline as we explore these themes we also touch on Ezra’s Eagle, and also some striking parallels between the southern kingdom of Judah and also some events from third Nephi to modern day Utah. As Morgan draws these parallels, they point to some things happening to Utah that is not ideal. Towards the end of this episode, I make a major announcement concerning me and my family so you will want to stick around for that for sure.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content   Today we continue with our series on John W. Taylor and the history that surrounds his life. On today’s episode we cover a truly fascinating time in Mormon History. We left off last time right as the LDS Church was about to sign the Manifesto. Well today we are going to go over that and also how the LDS Church continued to perform Plural Marriages. We cover how the LDS Church tried to keep this practice hidden, the colonies in Mexico and Canada, and how the LDS Church compartmentalized information so that the practice could continue. If you have ever wondered just how much the LDS Church was involved in Post-Manifesto Plural Marriage stick around and prepare to have your perceptions shattered.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content     So last year Michael Ness and I sat down and had a conversation about Joseph W Musser. I got a lot of great feedback from that episode. With that in mind I decided that I wanted to put out more content like that which dealt with Mormon Fundamentalist history and its prominent players. This time Michael joins me again as we discuss John W Taylor. Now we anticipate that this will be a two- or three-part series, on this first instalment about John W Taylor we cover all the events that led up to John W Taylors ministry. Buckle up because you are about to get a master class in the time period around the persecution of those early saints by the United States government which would ultimately give rise to the Manifesto. By the end of this episode, you will have a greater understanding of those persecutions and in turn our own history as Mormon Fundamentalists. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content     I firmly believe that what our nation is facing right is all do to a plan that was enacted almost one hundred years ago. The progressives sought to “help society progress past the constitution”. Now these people were patient. However, every so often during that one hundred there would be moments that the plan would be accelerated. I believe the decade of the 1960’s were one of those times. Now while certainly most people in America during the sixties were still conservative it would be a time when we could start to see the fabric of society begin to fray. Now we find ourselves in a place where the Haight-Ashbury type hippies of that decade are now in control of the government. To understand the problem fully and come up with a solution we must look back at the problem. On this episode I am joined by author Jonathan Leaf. Jonathan has written a book titled “The Politically Incorrect Guide To The Sixties. During our conversation we break down some of the ideas and political policies that have changed our society forever.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content     Utah is perhaps the most unique state in the union. It is a state where not only freedom is embraced but carrys a belief that freedom and rights come from God. Now this has served Utah well for a long time. Unfortunately, this also attracts unwanted attention for those who want to subvert these founding ideals. They feel like if they can turn Utah left they can get it done anywhere. On this episode I have Utah’s political watch-dog Chelcie Hope back on the podcast to talk about all the crazy, socialist policies trying to be implemented on the down low. Some of these updates are absolutely explosive. No matter if you live in Utah or not pay close attention because the tactics used here are used everywhere.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content     If you remember about this time last year I had the opportunity to sit down and have a conversation with Julie Behling. At that time Julie had just wrote the book Beneath Sheep’s Clothing which uncovered the various tactics the far-left uses to indoctrinate children in public education. Well she is comes back on the podcast to talk about the documentary that was made from the book. We talk about new things she had learned about the far-lefts plot, the heavy hitters she worked with from the Freedom Movement, and where and how to support the film. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support

Go To http://patreon.com/MormonRenegade368 For Exclusive Content   This week Hulu dropped a new documentary about Ervil LeBaron. I think over all the documentary was pretty well done. However, it was produced in a way that would appeal to a very large audience and had to be told in a way that would make sense to a largely non-mormon audience. I had other questions about this story. Mainly what was happening inside the Joel LeBaron’s Church of The First Born that set the table for Ervils insanity. Fortunately for me DeWayne Hafen has just published a book on the subject. DeWayne was a member of that church and got to see firsthand how things went off the rails. In this episode DeWayne and I talk about the LeBaron family, How Joel established the Church of the First Born in Mexico, what Ervils role in that church was, and the surrounding tensions that ultimately led to Ervil ordering the deaths of many people. My hope is that by examining all of these topics we as Mormons can take away some lessons and be on guard so nothing like this ever again happens in Mormonism.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dave-kirkenbower/support