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Listen to The No Bullsh*t Property Podcast for an insight into our approach to transformative property management in the ever-growing build to rent sector, and how we're building the sustainable communities of the future.


About CERT...

We are transformative managers of spaces and places, playing a pivotal role in creating community focused properties for people to live and work in the North-West, in partnership with a variety of Institutional Investors, Wealth Managers, Family Offices and Local Authorities.

With a common passion for improving the world around us, backed by our energetic team, we create, activate and operate inspiring environments and build communities across build-to-rent, wider residential concepts and commercial spaces.

We believe that technology will shape the communities of the future, that’s why we strive to think bigger. Our fully tech-enabled approach to property management provides a simpler, yet enhanced living experience for our tenants and an enriched property management offering for our investors.

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Welcome back to the No Bullsh*t Property Podcast. Howard and Paul are kicking off Season 3 with a deep dive into commercial utility prices, and their growing impact on businesses and landlords, joined by guest Gary Stewart from Otto. Discover how the intersection of government policy and energy efficiency is reshaping property investment strategies, and explore the potential of super smart meters as a cost-effective solution for reducing energy consumption. Gary offers practical strategies to...
Howard and Paul are joined this week by Paul Nicholson from the Nicolson Group for a deep dive into the day-to-day realities of a professional landlord in today’s shifting property landscape. Nicholson Group acquires unloved, derelict buildings and brings them back to life as efficiently designed modern homes that honour each building’s heritage. They begin by exploring the recent changes brought by the new Labour government, including increase in funding for affordable housing and support fo...
Join Paul and Howard as they sit down with Gemma Krysko, founder of We Are Indigo, to explore the dynamic evolution of Manchester’s hospitality scene and its impact on urban regeneration. Gemma shares her journey into PR and discusses the transformative shifts in hospitality, emphasising how strategic urban planning and unique venues can enhance neighbourhoods. The conversation highlights the importance of creating memorable, in-person experiences and the vital role of collaboration among dev...
In this episode of the No Bullsh*t Property Podcast, we’re taking a deep dive into the challenges and opportunities in the property development finance market, with the expertise of our guests Jack Poxon and Tom Bamber from Graphene Commercial Finance. With backgrounds in banking and finance, Jack and Tom offer insights into the fragmented world of development finance, exploring the advantages and drawbacks of having diverse funding options. We delve into the obstacles of securing development...
Join Howard and Paul as they dive into the topic of viability as part of the planning application process. Special guest Matt Spilsbury from CBRE joins them to unravel the complexities of viability assessments amidst current proposed planning reforms. Planning is a hot topic for Labour’s newly formed Government, particularly the reintroduction of housing targets on the agenda. Howard, Paul, and guest Matt Spilsbury provide insights into how these political changes may impact the delivery of ...
Season 2 of the No Bullsh*t Property Podcast continues with Angela Mansell, Managing Director of Mansell Building Solutions, who joined Howard and Paul to discuss construction in our latest women in property episode. Angela shares her journey from initially avoiding the construction industry to leading a successful second-generation family business in Manchester, highlighting the industry's evolution, diversity, and modern methods of construction (MMC). She emphasises the importance of priori...
Join us for Season 2 of The No Bullsh*t Property Podcast! We’re kicking off a new season with a new set and a whole host of new topics, starting with a dive deep into architectural heritage on none other than World Heritage Day. In this episode Howard and Paul examine the changing perspectives on architectural heritage, reflecting on how buildings once seen as eyesores have come to be appreciated for their unique design elements. They share stories from their own experiences with herita...
The No Bullsh*t Property Podcast is back with its 15th episode! This time we’re joined by Ben Hall, Managing Director of LOFT. Ben shares his journey of starting Loft in 2003 with a student loan and how his experience studying in the United States inspired him to create better quality accommodation for students in Manchester. Howard and Paul discuss with Ben how the rental market is changing the landscape of interior design. They discuss expectations of how student renters are spearhead...
In this month’s episode Howard and Paul caught up with our very own Head of Construction, Nigel Pearce, as we navigate the complexities of the construction landscape. Nigel sheds light on the challenges of maintaining a budget across the entire product lifecycle, from inception to maintenance and highlights the importance of innovation in overcoming obstacles within the sector. We explore the high costs of acquisition, the worker shortage, and the need to add value to the entire build...
In this episode of The No Bullsh*t Property Podcast, Howard and Paul are joined by fellow developer Harry Dhaliwal, Managing Director of Step Places. Similar to CERT, innovation and sustainability are at the forefront of their approach, with Harry featuring alongside Howard on Insider Media’s 2021 ‘Property Disruptors’ list, which showcases the individuals ripping up the rulebook in the property industry. A self-confessed design junkie, Harry prides himself on only delivering developments he...
It’s The No Bullsh*t Property Podcast’s 12th episode! And what better way to celebrate that we're 12 months into our podcasts, than to be talking all things planning with CERT’s favourite planning consultant, Matt Dixon. Matt is one of the founders of Enabl, a specialist planning, cost management and project management consultancy based in Manchester. CERT have worked with Enabl on a number of projects, making Matt the ideal guest to talk all things planning. Howard and Paul want to know wh...
Community is one of our core values here at CERT, a value shared by today’s guests Josh & Ruben, owners of the F45 fitness studio, not a gym but a community offering life-changing team training in Manchester’s Northern Quarter. Paul & Howard are regulars of the 45 min cardio and resistance classes and have seen firsthand the community that Josh and Ruben have built. The guys have had their fair share of challenges on their journey, coming from Australia and navigating the London com...
For the milestone 10th episode of #TheNoBullshitPropertyPodcast, we are joined by a very special guest and a friend of CERT. If you work in property in Manchester, this man needs no introduction. His motto is ‘love what you do’ - a phrase he epitomises in everything he does; today's guest is Atul Bansal of Sheila Bird. In this episode, Atul shares with us the history of Sheila Bird, his thoughts on the future of the office space, and his love of happy endings… as well as what loving w...
For the final episode of 2022, Howard & Paul reflect on the year past and look forward to the year ahead. They discuss the key things we saw in 2022, from the Autumn mini-budget to rising rents and energy bills, and predict what 2023 will mean for the UK residential and commercial property markets. 2022 definitely threw us a few curveballs - after emerging from the shocks of covid, we ran straight into the spillover from the war in Europe, and the impact of the cost of living crisis. W...
This month, Howard & Paul are joined by Ben & Alex of Liverpool Arts Bar (@liverpoolartsbar) to discuss the hospitality industry from a property perspective and what operators are looking for from their landlords and the properties that they occupy. Ben and Alex, along with Jordan and Tom, set up the Arts Bar in the heart of Liverpool’s iconic Hope Street to connect creatives and support emerging artists in the city. The creative entrepreneurs have had quite the journey, fro...
The cost of living crisis is something that's becoming increasingly hard to ignore. A massive 91% of adults have reported an increase in their living costs compared with a year ago, while 73% say that costs have become more expensive in the last month alone (ONS). Whether it's increasing interest rates, rising rents, or escalating energy bills, the cost of living crisis will affect us all in some way. Some of us will be faced with the choice of returning to the office in a bid to...
To continue the theme of equality and inclusivity, this month Howard and Paul are joined by Helen Spencer, Executive Director of Growth at Great Places, a profit-for-purpose housing association. Helen is one of a fairly limited number of women in senior leadership roles in the property development sector and shares with us her insight on the challenges faced by women in senior roles and how to ensure fair representation at decision-making stages. Howard, Paul and Helen also discuss th...
Inclusivity and equality are engrained into our core values here at CERT, and this month’s guest is perfectly placed to discuss how we can all create a more inclusive culture within our communities. Howard and Paul are joined by CERT’s marketing executive Johnny V to discuss unconscious bias, accurate representation in senior positions, and challenging the norm. Johnny also talks about his New Normal exhibition supported by CERT - a trail of art, music and performance showcasing queer...
In this episode, we celebrate #SocialWellnessMonth and embark on a journey to understand how building human connections within the spaces we occupy contribute to our overall feeling of belonging. Howard and Paul are joined by wife-and-wife duo Kiera and Aimie Lawlor-Skillen, Founders of the Feel Good Club, who have made incredible strides in building an authentic and community-led wellbeing café and events space in Manchester’s Northern Quarter. Discover how their excitement and passion f...
To continue the #WorldEnvironmentDay theme, hosts Howard Lord and Paul Shakeshaft caught up with CERT's Head of Design, Chris Hosty, about the property industry's environmental impact, the responsibility of property developers, and how new construction methods are shaping the property market's future. We would love your feedback! If you are interested in helping to shape the future of living, please complete the survey on the link below. 👇 https://forms.gle/fCECJeJf98942xgLA Song: Sexy Fas...
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