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Thriving: The Breakthrough Movement

Author: Wayne Visser

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Join me, Prof Wayne Visser, for inspiring conversations with leaders in the breakthrough movement to regenerate nature, society and the economy. Thriving is about going beyond sustainability to a net positive agenda of innovation and regeneration. Each episode is a dialogue with thought leaders and pioneering practitioners, capturing their perspective on the six great transitions to thriving: how to go from degradation to restoration of ecosystems, from depletion to renewal of resources, from disparity to responsibility in communities and workplaces, from disease to revitalisation of health, from disconnection to rewiring through technology, and from disruption to resilience in infrastructure and institutions. We also explore what kind of leadership are needed to create a thriving future, and how organisations can take action to integrate thriving into their strategies, products and services. This is not about false hope or blind optimism, but we actively focus on innovative solutions and positive tipping points for change. The podcast builds on the foundations of my bestselling book "Thriving: The Breakthrough Movement to Regenerate Nature, Society and the Economy." I look forward to having you join the movement for thriving and welcome your suggestions for who I should feature as invited guests on the podcast. Credits: Host: Wayne Visser. Podcast music: Amil Raja
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My guest this week is Tamara Makoni, Founder and CEO of Kazuri Consulting. In this episode, she discusses how: Equality and equity are different – and why equity is more important for creating fair outcomesDiscrimination often emerges unconsciously, for example through “micro-aggressions”Diversity and inclusion require investment of time and resources in order to make progressDE&I creates value for organisations and society, but this is not often quantifiedWe need to learn the lesson...
My guest this week is Hanan Challouki, the Founder of Inclusified. In this episode, she discusses why: Inclusion goes beyond having the right processes to having the right cultureListening is as important as giving people a seat at the tableDiverse teams are more productive and more creativeDiversity is most needed – and hardest to embrace – in times of uncertaintyCreating time and space for courageous conversations is needed in the workplaceKey linksHanan Challouki (LinkedIn)Inclusified...
My guest this week is Ludvig Liljekvist, Global Strategy, Development & Innovation Insight and Foresight leader for Ingka Group (largest IKEA retailer). In this episode, he discusses:What “positive” means in IKEA’s People and Planet Positive strategyWhy circularity remains challenging for a retail business focused on affordabilityHow three “wicked” (entangled) problems are shaping possible, projected and preferable futuresWhy world building is a useful foresight technique for strategyHow ...
My guest this week is Audrey-Flore Ngomsik, CEO & Co-Founder of Trianon Scientific Communication and President of The Brussels Binder. In this episode, she discusses how:A more complex and dynamic world makes diversity more necessary to survive and thriveIncorporating diversity into targets and incentives is needed to make change happenRole models are important for breaking barriers and inspiring those that followDiversity can drive better stakeholder engagement and commercial opportuniti...
My guest this week is Tino Chibebe, author of The Black Opportunity, Founders’ Associate at Azteq and Investment Committee member at Impact Shakers Microfund. In this episode, he discusses how:Impact investing can make a critical difference in tackling social and environmental challengesAfropeans are underrepresented in the venture capital and technology space in BelgiumThere is a bias against Black entrepreneurs, in part due to a lack of visibility and role modelsThe “daughter effect” in ven...
My guest this week is Valérie Trouet, a palaeoclimatologist, Professor of Dendrochronology at the University of Arizona and Scientific Director of the Belgian Climate Centre. In this episode, she discusses how:Studying tree rings can give insights into climate change over the past 2,000 yearsThere is evidence that climate change was a contributing factor to the fall of RomeScience needs the support of enabling government policy to turn insight into actionCommunicating scientific findings need...
My guest this week is Bhupinder Bhullar, CEO and Co-Founder of Swiss Vault. In this episode, he discusses how:Data storage represents around 4% of global carbon emissions and $66 billion of e-wasteEnergy footprints and cybersecurity risk are especially high for genetic data storageInnovation has led to more than 10X reductions in energy consumption in data storageLack of protection individual genetic data can compromise others who share hereditary genesUsing DNA as a data storage technology h...
My guest this week is Nuria Chinchilla, the IESE Business School Professor of Leadership and Head of the IESE Chair on Women in Leadership. In this episode, she discusses how:Waste and pollution occur not only in the natural environment, but also in societyValues are different from value, help us to go beyond a new mindset to a new heartsetWe need to challenge the view of employees as machines, resources or economic agentsParticipative purpose is key to changing the tyranny of management by o...
My guest this week is Jason Walters, Director of GlobeScan, who has overseen research among 11,000 people from 11 countries on biodiversity and business. In this episode he talks about:Why action on biodiversity is so far behind action on climate change – yet starting to gain traction in the past 2 yearsHow only 2% of people believe nature is in a good or satisfactory condition, and 88% of experts find the situation alarming or catastrophicHow most people are somewhat optimistic that we can m...
My guest this week is Lucy Siegle, a British journalist, broadcaster and author of books on ethical living, including most recently Be the Ultimate Friend of the Earth. In this episode, she talks about:What the role of the media is in educating people on social and environmental issues – and how requirements for “balanced” reporting can be a barrierHow the politicisation of media is slowing progress, while the public (and often business) is ahead of politicians on issues like climate ch...
My guest this week is Paul Hawken, environmentalist, entrepreneur, activist and author of the bestselling books The Ecology of Commerce, Drawdown and Regeneration. In this episode, he talks about: Why sustainability has become a “weasel word” and limited practice that we may be better off avoiding altogetherHow regeneration is different to sustainability – and is necessary to move beyond an extractive economyWhy climate change will never be “solved” unless we protect and restoring life (...
My guest week is Francoise Chombar, Chairwoman at MELEXIS and STEM Platform, and board member at AMS and Umicore. In this episode, she talks about:How technology can be a force for positive impact, but only if it is inclusive – and how inclusion is a driver for innovationWhy diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) needs to become a societal and organisational habit to be effectiveWhat being a Steminist – a STEM feminist – means and why it is a crucial solution to economic and societal inequalit...
My guest week is Claudia Lee, a journalist and podcaster on sustainable food systems. In this episode, she talks about:How the food system needs to navigate the challenges of climate change, biodiversity loss, plastic and chemical pollution and food securityWhy tackling food waste is critical, with pioneering cases like Rice Inc in China; I also share my revolutionary idea to radically cut restaurant and hotel food wasteThe health benefits of plant-based diets and the environmental benefits o...
My guest this week is Kumi Naidoo, Founding Chair at Africans Rising and former Secretary General at Amnesty International and Executive Director at Greenpeace. In this episode, he talks about why:Thriving requires a can-do attitude and intergenerational mentality that accepts that social and environmental justice is a struggle of a lifetimeFraming climate change as an environmental issue was a strategic and tactical blunder of major proportionsEnvironmental decline is not from lack of soluti...
My guest this week is Peggy Van Casteren, Head of SDG & Community Impact at J&J Benelux. In this episode, she talks about how: Sustainability is like a set of muscles in business, which need to be connected, exercised and strengthenedThe healthcare industry is evolving from a focus on curing sickness to early interception and prevention of diseaseAccess to medicines relies on education, partnerships and technology (like drone delivery) to tackle global unmet needs for healthClosi...
My guest this week is Andrew Winston, co-author of Net Positive (with Paul Polman) and a globally recognized expert on megatrends and how to build companies that thrive by serving the world.How net positive – which means thriving by solving the world’s problems, not causing them – is different from what came beforeWhat the outside-in perspective – including the science-based targets movement – means for business strategyWhat companies like Unilever, IKEA, Patagonia, Mars, Microsoft, Google, a...
My guest this week is Eddy Annys, who is Managing Director of Randstad Belgium and a former Olympic athlete. Listen to Eddy talk about: His experience as a world class high jumper, and how peak performance by world class athletes is only possible by having an enabling systemWhy ensuring that everyone has an opportunity for meaningful work remains a challenge – even in times and places of economic prosperityHow we need to challenge historical stereotypes of difference – such as gender and...
My guest this week is Antony Yousefian, who is the Founding Partner of ReFi Ventures and Advisor to Tech Nation. Listen to Antony talk about how:Conventional intensive agriculture is extractive, while regenerative agriculture is better for food security, resilience and healthInnovation through regenerative agriculture can turn farming into a “hero industry” that reverses the destruction of nature’s ecoservicesEarly-stage investment and financial innovation (such as soil carbon credits) needs ...
My guest his week is Micaela Rizo Patrón, who is general manager of Perú Sostenible, a network of over 80 companies, which represents the World Business Council for Sustainable Development in Peru. Listen to Micaela speak about:What the more chaotic conditions and informal systems of developing countries can teach us about creativity and resilienceHow disruption can highlight the importance of purpose, the power of interconnection and the necessity for clear metrics of progressBest practices ...
My guest this week is Mark Kramer, a Harvard lecturer and leading researcher, writer, speaker and consultant on strategies for social impact. He is best known as the co-author of seminal articles on creating shared value, collective impact, and catalytic philanthropy. Listen to Mark speak about: Why there is a synergy between successful companies and healthy societies, a message that is at the heart of creating shared valueHow start-ups, rather than large incumbent companies, are better ...
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