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Guest host Rich Tupica sits down for an electrifying John Flansburgh interview, diving headfirst into four decades of They Might Be Giants magic. John shares insider stories about their latest album, The World Is to Dig, the true craft behind pop music songwriting, wild vocal lessons, and why staying curious keeps an indie band thriving. Then, John proudly launches Texas duo Tele Novella, taking listeners into their world of folk fantasy music. Discover how their cassette-tracked magic and visual flair prove that radical DIY artistry is alive and kicking.   What You’ll Learn This Episode: ✅ How John Flansburgh approaches pop music songwriting and creative growth. ✅ Why Tele Novella embraces folk fantasy music and theatrical visual art. ✅ The role of independent record labels in shaping underground scenes. ✅ How vocal training for singers and studio curiosity foster longevity.   LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft!   TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Rich Tupica welcomes John Flansburgh to discuss the new They Might Be Giants album, The World Is to Dig 01:45 John on choosing power pop covers like Starry Eyes and Istanbul  05:00 Reflections on DJing, doo-wop, and vintage musical gear techniques  08:45 Thoughts on Alex Chilton, Paul Westerberg, and fame  16:25 Aiming for pure pop music songwriting and crafting memorable melodies  20:30 Recording studio experimentation behind the instrumental Peggy Guggenheim 25:20 The reality of Dial-A-Song, tour props, and visual art decisions  31:55 Michael Azerrad profile and taking vocal training for singers  42:10 Early punk rock history memories and seeing bands at The Rat  46:55 Second guest is launched: John introduces Tele Novella   KEY TAKEAWAYS 💎 Creative freedom thrives when artists focus on making captivating work rather than chasing temporary industry trends. 💎 Tele Novella builds a distinct identity by pairing analog textures with theatrical storytelling free of self-conscious vanity. 💎 True artistic longevity requires curiosity, continuous skill development, and embracing studio experimentation. 💎 Performing for small, dedicated crowds builds resilient foundational confidence that sustains long musical careers.   RESOURCE LINKS:  LaunchLeft Podcast Smart Link   JOHN FLANSBURGH LINKS: https://www.theymightbegiants.com/ https://www.instagram.com/tmbghq/ https://www.youtube.com/@theymightbegiantsofficial   TELE NOVELLA LINKS: https://telenovella.bandcamp.com/ https://www.instagram.com/telenovellaband/ https://www.killrockstars.com/artists/tele-novella   BIOGRAPHIES:  JOHN FLANSBURGH (THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS) John Flansburgh is a founding member of the multi-Grammy-winning duo They Might Be Giants, who treat the entire history of popular music as a trampoline rather than a rulebook. Alongside John Linnell, he has built an iconic four-decade career defined by esoteric references, melodic left turns, and unyielding creative independence. On their album The World Is to Dig (Idlewild Recordings), the band continues to fire ideas like particles in a perpetual motion experiment. Untethered from trends and immune to nostalgia, Flansburgh remains a relentless champion of left-of-center music and artistic curiosity.   TELE NOVELLA Tele Novella is a Texas-based duo currently residing in the small rural town of Lockhart, Texas, where they find inspiration for their medieval-western sound. With fable-like storytelling and thoughtfully crafted arrangements, their cinematically evocative recordings often contain chimes, dulcimers, toys, and vibraphones. Self-described as Folk-Fantasy and Magical Realism, their lyrics carry an otherworldly transmission recorded via cassette 8-track recorder. Released via Kill Rock Stars, Tele Novella crafts a distinct American Gothic vision that blends childlike wonder with wise storytelling.  

Music icons Chuck D of Public Enemy and John Densmore of The Doors explore the concept of LaunchLeft and examine how raw creative expression bridges generations. The conversation centers on the intersection of hip hop and poetry, highlighting how rhythms and spoken word art carry powerful cultural histories. Shifting the spotlight left of center, these legends launch two phenomenal independent creators: Oklahoma City rapper and community activist Jabee, and visionary LA poet Kamau Daaood. From founding historic jazz spaces to using hip hop for neighborhood revitalization, this episode uncovers how building community through independent music creates an enduring artistic legacy. What You’ll Learn This Episode:  ✅ How John Densmore honors social justice poetry and uses music mentorship to elevate new voices ✅ Why Jabee embraces a grassroots movement framework to transform local communities ✅ The power of a collaborative record to unite diverse genres like jazz and hip hop ✅ How independent creators preserve creative expression by staying true to their neighborhoods LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft! IN THIS EPISODE:  00:00 Shepard Fairey welcomes musical icons John Densmore and Chuck D 01:19 John Densmore details his collaborative record work and poetry appreciation 02:23 John Densmore recites powerful social justice poetry from Etheridge Knight 05:02 Kamau Daaood is launched as a visionary LA poet and community organizer 06:48 Reciting Kamau Daaood's evocative stanzas on the jazz and hip hop space 08:15 Jabee is launched as Chuck D introduces the independent hip hop artist 09:08 Chuck D explains the grassroots movement behind discovering Jabee online 11:55 How Jabee transformed early radio airplay into sustained community activism 14:59 Chuck D on his collaborative record curation with emerging Canadian vocalists 17:05 Jabee shares a personal audio message honoring Chuck D's music mentorship   KEY TAKEAWAYS:  💎 Artistic freedom thrives when creators protect their raw creative expression without corporate compromise. 💎 Independent creators can leverage their localized platforms to spark a powerful grassroots movement. 💎 Real community activism builds sustainable creative ecosystems that outlast standard promotional cycles. 💎 A true artistic legacy is cemented by mentoring and launching the next generation of rule breakers.   RESOURCE LINKS:  LaunchLeft Podcast Smart Link SHEPARD FAIREY https://obeygiant.com https://www.instagram.com/obeygiant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_Fairey CHUCK D https://www.instagram.com/mrchuckd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_D JOHN DENSMORE https://www.johndensmore.com https://www.instagram.com/johndensmore https://www.facebook.com/johndensmore1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Densmore JABEE LINKS: https://www.instagram.com/mynameisjabee https://jabee-mmg.bandcamp.com/ KAMAU DAAOOD LINKS: https://www.leimertparkmovie.com/team/kamau-daaood/ BIOGRAPHIES:  John Densmore is the legendary drummer of the seminal rock band The Doors. Beyond his foundational place in rock history, he is an accomplished author, poet, and advocate for independent artists. His lifelong dedication to creative expression fuels his current work bridging the worlds of jazz, rock, and spoken word poetry.  Chuck D is the iconic co-founder and frontman of the legendary hip hop group Public Enemy. A fierce activist, author, and digital pioneer, he continues to redefine music mentorship through his global curatorial platform, Rap Station. He works tirelessly to support independent musicians and community-driven arts programs worldwide.   Jabee is an acclaimed hip hop artist and Emmy-award-winning community activist based in Oklahoma City. Known for his sharp lyrical execution and grassroots movement projects, he owns local businesses that serve as creative hubs for the neighborhood. He uses hip hop as a direct vehicle for community empowerment and social change.  Kamau Daaood is a celebrated Los Angeles poet, educator, and a fixture of the West Coast spoken word art community. He co-founded The World Stage in Leimert Park, a legendary performance space fostering jazz and poetry. He remains a vital carrier of ancestral knowledge and creative expression. 

Shepard Fairey hosts cultural icons Chuck D of Public Enemy and John Densmore of The Doors as they discuss their groundbreaking collaboration, DOPE | No Country for Old Men. What happens when different genres collide with a purpose? Their conversation explores activism, artistic responsibility, hip hop and rock history, creative evolution, spoken word, poetry, social change, and the power of music to challenge systems. Together, they reveal how generations of artists can unite to create meaningful work in a time of distraction and division. What You Will Learn in This Episode:✅ How Chuck D and John Densmore merged hip hop, rock, poetry, and activism to create DOPE. ✅ Why artists have a responsibility to challenge power structures and inspire critical thinking. ✅ The similarities between rap lyricism, spoken word poetry, and jazz improvisation. ✅ How collaboration across generations and genres can spark new creativity and cultural dialogue. LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft! TIMESTAMPS:   00:00 Welcome to LaunchLeft 00:01:34 Shepard Fairey praises Chuck D's book Hour of Chaos 00:05:58 Activism, civil rights movements, and why DOPE matters now 00:17:00 How the DOPE collaboration first came together 00:22:54 John Densmore on rap as an art form equal to jazz improvisation 00:25:52 Learning hip hop production, drum machines, and creative evolution 00:28:15 Etheridge Knight, poetry, and spoken word influences on the album 00:38:00 "Artificial Intelligence vs. Ancestral Intelligence" discussion 00:44:29 Revisiting Doors history through the song "Doomsday" 00:46:56 "Everybody gets older, but they don't get elder" 01:05:21 Building bridges through art, education, and cultural conversation KEY TAKEAWAYS:  💎Great Art Bridges Generations and Genres: DOPE demonstrates that meaningful collaboration isn't limited by age, genre, or background. Chuck D and John Densmore found common ground through activism, storytelling, and a shared desire to create art that matters. 💎Activism Remains Central to Creativity: Music can be a vehicle for social awareness and change. Their work continues the tradition of artists using their platforms to challenge injustice and inspire dialogue. 💎Hip Hop and Rock Share More Than People Realize: The conversation reveals deep connections between rap, rock, jazz, poetry, and spoken word. Great music transcends genre labels and is rooted in expression, rhythm, and truth. 💎Experience Doesn't Automatically Create Wisdom: One of the most powerful themes is the distinction between aging and becoming an elder. The discussion centers on mentorship, responsibility, and passing knowledge to future generations. ABOUT THE GUESTS:  SHEPARD FAIREY is a contemporary street artist, graphic designer, activist, and founder of OBEY Clothing and creative agency Studio Number One. In 1989, while at Rhode Island School of Design studying for his Bachelor of Fine Arts in Illustration, Shepard Fairey created the “Andre the Giant has a Posse” sticker that later evolved into the OBEY GIANT art campaign. In 2008, his portrait of then-Democratic candidate Barack Obama became an internationally recognized emblem of hope. He is known for the “We The People” campaign debuted during the 2017 Women’s Marches worldwide. Fairey has painted more than 140 public murals, become one of the most sought-after and provocative artists globally, and changed the way people converse about art and view the urban landscape. JOHN DENSMORE is the drummer for the legendary rock band The Doors. In 1993, he was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and since then, he has earned a Grammy® Lifetime Achievement Award and a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. In addition to his three books, the best-selling Riders on the Storm: My Life with Jim Morrison & The Doors, The Doors Unhinged: Jim Morrison’s Legacy Goes On Trial and The Seekers: Meetings With Remarkable Musicians (and Other Artists), his writing has also been featured in the Los Angeles Times, Rolling Stone, the Guardian, the Nation, and Chicago Tribune, among others. He lives in Los Angeles. CHUCK D is a Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, cultural icon, hip-hop legend, social activist, author, digital music pioneer, visual artist and multi-media producer. Known worldwide as the co-founder of Public Enemy, he ignited a movement with his fearless lyrics and remains one of the most influential figures in contemporary culture.  Creating and delivering groundbreaking music since 1987, Public Enemy and Chuck D have been the subjects of exhibits at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the GRAMMY Museum and the GRAMMY Hall of Fame.  In addition to his work with Public Enemy and his solo career, Chuck D released an album with John Densmore of The Doors. He is also a visual artist whose work has been exhibited in galleries and museums worldwide and is included in the permanent collection of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of African American History and Culture. A retrospective of his work was published by Genesis Books in 2023 entitled “Livin’ Loud” and he has released a series of graphic novels and illustrated books. Chuck runs a magazine titled Rap Central Station, the cultural media app Bring the Noise, hosts a show on SiriusXM and has written several books. RESOURCES: LaunchLeft Podcast Smart Link GUEST RESOURCES:  SHEPARD FAIREY https://obeygiant.com https://www.instagram.com/obeygiant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_Fairey CHUCK D https://www.instagram.com/mrchuckd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_D JOHN DENSMORE https://www.johndensmore.com https://www.instagram.com/johndensmore https://www.facebook.com/johndensmore1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Densmore Books Mentioned:  Hour of Chaos: The History of Public Enemy and American Rap Music by Chuck D Follow the Music by Jack Holzman Bones of My Father by Etheridge Knight

Today on LaunchLeft, guest host Rich Tupica chats with Jenny Lee Lindberg for a candid conversation about longevity and creativity, collaboration, and artistic independence. Jenny opens up about balancing music and painting, Warpaint’s evolving future, and finding freedom through visual art. Then, Jenny launches Sierra Swan, who reflects on growing up around music, self-producing her work, and embracing a fearless DIY spirit. Together, they discuss Los Angeles nightlife, artistic authenticity, dance, and why creating without compromise matters more than ever. What You Will Learn in This Episode:✅ How Jenny Lee balances painting, songwriting, and life outside Los Angeles ✅ Why Sierra Swan embraces complete creative control over her music and visuals ✅ The impact of the changing music industry on independent artists ✅ How friendship, dance, and artistic community fuel long-term creativity LaunchLeft champions artists for whom radical creativity is a necessity. Support these artists by streaming, sharing, and showing up at live events. Donate to keep independent, left-of-center voices thriving. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review to help more listeners discover LaunchLeft! TIMESTAMPS:   00:00 Rich Tupica welcomes Jenny Lee 01:10 Jenny discusses leaving Los Angeles for Salt Lake City and how that’s impacted her creative process 04:08 Jenny opens up about ADHD, hyper-focus, and creative deadlines 05:28 Warpaint’s upcoming Meltdown Festival performance and band hiatus 08:00 Painting as therapy and rediscovering creativity during the pandemic 10:00 Jenny reflects on collaborating with Dave Gahan 14:50 Dream collaborators: André 3000 and Mark Rothko 20:14 Jenny discusses burnout and the changing music industry 28:16 Sierra Swan is launched. She shares how she met Jenny at Burning Man 37:20 Sierra previews her upcoming EP Mistress of Love and her DIY creative process KEY TAKEAWAYS:  💎Creativity thrives in freedom. Painting gave Jenny a level of artistic freedom she rarely experienced in collaborative music settings. Working alone allows her to reconnect with her instincts and create without compromise or outside pressure. 💎Sierra Swan sees value in handling every aspect of her creative work herself—from songwriting and directing videos to self-releasing music.  💎The music industry has dramatically changed. Jenny reflects on how exhausting and financially unsustainable the modern music business has become for many artists. Streaming culture and constant online promotion have fundamentally shifted artistic careers. 💎Community and friendship sustain artists. Jenny and Sierra’s decades-long friendship demonstrates the importance of encouragement, collaboration, and mutual inspiration. ABOUT THE GUESTS:  Jenny Lee Lindberg is a multidisciplinary artist whose creative work bridges the raw pulse of post-punk music with the intuitive expressionism of visual art. She is best known as the bassist and founding member of the critically acclaimed band Warpaint. Parallel to her music career, Jenny Lee is a prolific painter whose visual work reveals the same spontaneity and emotional honesty that defines her sound. Working primarily in acrylics and mixed media, her paintings often explore form, color, and gesture through an abstract lens. Her visual art, like her music, resists easy categorization - favoring mood, movement, and process over polish or perfection.  With a DIY ethos and a fiercely independent spirit, Jenny Lee continues to evolve as an artist across mediums, crafting immersive experiences that are deeply personal, rhythmically rich, and emotionally resonant. Sierra Marie Swan was born in the San Fernando Valley with music in her blood. Her father Billy Swan had his first hit when he was sixteen with Lover Please. During Sierra’s many nights backstage while her father played rhythm guitar for Kris Kristofferson, she conjured up her own dreams of becoming a professional musician.​​ As a teenager, Sierra listened to Prince, Queen, Oingo Boingo, The Beatles, Grant Lee Buffalo, Mozart and Patsy Cline. It was Patsy Cline who inspired her singing career. When she was 16 she began playing at L.A. coffeehouses. In 1997 Sierra joined the alternative rock band Dollshead and was signed to MCA Records. Two years later Sierra decided to leave the band and become a solo artist signing with Atlantic Records. She went on to work with some illustrious producers including Chad Hugo from The Neptunes, Howard Benson, Anne Preven and Scott Cutler. It was during the making of this record that she met Linda Perry. While they began to collaborate on material for her album she was let go from her contract with Atlantic. Linda decided to sign her to her label via Interscope, and Ladyland was released shortly thereafter.  Typical of the music industry, she was let go from her contract with Interscope. Not to be deterred, Sierra decided to make it on her own producing and performing the beautiful and haunting EP entitled “Coward", followed by “Queen of the Valley,” Sierra’s 80’s pop homage to her Valley Girl roots. She then produced her third full length album ‘Girl Who Cried Wolf’, following a cover EP with her critically acclaimed father Billy Swan at the legendary Sun Studios in Memphis. Sierra has also toured and collaborated with the likes of The Smashing Pumpkins, William Patrick Corgan, Aimee Mann, Bill Bottrell, Dave Stewart, Linda Perry, Ringo Starr, and Frank Black. Sierra Swan embodies the true spirit of a musical artist. She’s had major label deals and major label drops. Through it all Sierra doesn’t miss a beat. In 2013 she began recording her most personal record yet with William Patrick Corgan sitting in the producer's chair.  In William's words “Sierra’s new songs are the best batch of material I have heard from any songwriter in forever.” The album named Good Soldier is available for download here.  This whimsically gorgeous album is a must have album. The outcome of Sierra Swan's Good Soldier is truly remarkable. There is simply nobody like her.  Currently Swan is recording an EP in her basement in her Minneapolis home. There is also another project brewing but she is not quite sure what will become of it...yet. RESOURCES: LaunchLeft Podcast Smart Link GUEST RESOURCES:  JENNY LEE LINKS: https://www.jennyleelindberg.com/ https://www.instagram.com/jennylibrary/ https://www.instagram.com/warpaint/ https://www.warpaintwarpaint.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@WarpaintOfficial SIERRA SWAN LINKS: https://www.sierraswan.com/ https://www.instagram.com/sierraswan/ https://www.facebook.com/Swan5/ https://www.tiktok.com/@sierraswanmusic

Today on LaunchLeft, rock legend Michael Des Barres joins Donita Sparks for a wildly entertaining and deeply reflective conversation on creativity, resilience, and reinvention. From glam rock beginnings and acting alongside icons to fronting The Power Station at Live Aid, Michael shares unforgettable stories, moments of happenstance and hard-earned wisdom. Plus, the rising duo Night Mover is launched. Night Mover discusses their musical history, their genre-blending sound, nightlife roots, and evolving artistry. Catch a sneak peek at one of Night Mover’s songs.  What You’ll Learn This Episode:  ✅How Michael Des Barres built a multi-decade career through reinvention and fearless creativity ✅Why self-belief and authenticity are essential for artistic longevity ✅The realities of rock stardom—from Live Aid to behind-the-scenes chaos ✅How Night Mover blends global disco, punk, and electronic influences into a modern sound IN THIS EPISODE:  00:00 Introduction to Michael Des Barres 01:17 The importance of self-belief in artistry 06:51 Landing a role in To Sir, With Love 12:17 Moving to LA with $200 and a dream 15:28 The Power Station and near-miss opportunity 19:11 Performing at Live Aid 21:15 Writing the hit song “Obsession” 23:35 New music: “Kiss or Kill Me” 32:31 Life as a radio host on Underground Garage 41:31 Night Mover is launched 47:30 Current film project and DJ history KEY TAKEAWAYS:  💎 Authenticity beats trends. Great artists don’t chase, they create. 💎 Reinvention is a skill that sustains long-term success. 💎 Rock and roll is as much about attitude and emotion as it is about sound. 💎 Collaboration and shared passion are driving forces behind new creative projects. RESOURCE LINKS:  LaunchLeft Podcast Smart Link MDB Links: https://michaeldesbarres.com/ https://www.instagram.com/mdesbarres https://www.facebook.com/mdesbarres https://www.youtube.com/user/MichaelDesBarresBand NIGHT MOVER LINK: https://www.instagram.com/nightmovermusic/ BIOGRAPHIES:  Michael Des Barres is an actor, rock singer, songwriter, and radio host. His arrival in the entertainment world began as a Marquis attending boarding school in England, where he first started acting at age eight in commercials and school plays.  At nineteen, Michael played the androgynous rock star Rose in the nude musical The Dirtiest Show In Town. Andrew Lloyd Webber saw Michael’s performance and went backstage to tell him that he should form a real rock band. Michael quickly wrote his first song. That song lead  to the formation of Silverhead, a raucous glam rock experiment.  After two albums and two world tours Silverhead disbanded and Michael moved to Los Angeles where he formed the band Detective. Detective was signed to Swan Song Records by Jimmy Page and recorded two albums.  In 1982 Michael formed the band Chequered Past featuring Steve Jones, Clem Burke, Nigel Harrison and Tony Sales. After they opened for Duran Duran in 1984, Michael was chosen to replace Robert Palmer as lead singer of The Power Station, fronting the band at the 1985 Live Aid concert. As a songwriter Michael co-wrote “Obsession” with Holly Knight, which was famously covered by the L.A. based New Wave group Animotion and was a number one hit in twenty-seven countries.  Michael's love of acting had never subsided and in 1985 he was cast in the role of “Murdoc” in the ABC hit series MacGyver. Additional credits include Melrose Place, Seinfeld, WKRP in Cincinnati, Miami Vice, Alf, Roseanne, The Rockford Files, Northern Exposure, and many more. In 2014 Michael was asked by Steven Van Zandt to bring his encyclopedic knowledge of rock and soul music to Little Steven’s Underground Garage, SiriusXM, Channel 21 where he can be found DJing every weekday from 5am-8am P/T, and 9pm-12am P/T.  Michael’s highly lauded documentary “Who Do You Want Me To Be?” began streaming July 10th, 2020 on Amazon Prime.  Currently MDB has a new single out on Rumbar Records entitled "Kiss or Kill Me." NIGHT MOVER is a DJ and production duo made up of Alix Brown and James Matthew Seven, crafting cinematic sets shaped by film soundtracks and underground club culture. Their sound blends global disco, rock ‘n’ roll, obscure library music, and cosmic grooves into hypnotic, transportive experiences for hi-fi listening rooms and dance floors alike. Alongside their work as performers, they run a boutique music agency and supervision studio, bringing a refined, cinematic approach to sonic identity across fashion, film, and nightlife. Originally from Atlanta, Alix Brown is a DJ, music supervisor, and film producer whose work spans cinema, fashion, and culture. She has collaborated with Chanel, Gucci, and Fendi, and performed alongside artists like Nile Rodgers, Mark Ronson, James Murphy, Paris Hilton, and Jellybean Benitez. Her supervision work with companies including Lionsgate, Rai Cinema, and Warner Brothers informs NIGHT MOVER’s distinctly narrative-driven sound. James Matthew Seven, originally from Toronto, is a producer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, and DJ whose work draws from disco, soul, psychedelia, and rock. As a touring musician, he has shared stages with Oasis, Wu-Tang Clan, and Iggy Pop, bringing a deep musicality and expansive sonic palette to the project. Together, NIGHT MOVER creates immersive, stylish sets and bespoke edits and remixes, weaving rare records and timeless cuts into a sound defined by mood, movement, and a sense of atmosphere.