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Behind The Wall is more than a podcast - it’s a front-row seat to the untold stories behind iconic moments in music, film, and entertainment. Each episode pulls back the curtain on how the world’s biggest songs and scenes come to life, from raw demos to breakthrough ideas and the relentless work behind them. Hosted by Daniel Wall, it’s an honest, in-depth series with the artists, producers, and creatives who shape culture, inspiring the next generation to create and reminding us that the stories that change our lives always start Behind The Wall.
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Andrew Choi is the singing voice of Jinu from Netflix's KPop Demon Hunters, performing on songs like "Soda Pop," "Your Idol," and "Free." But his journey in music started long before the Saja Boys.Go to Tidal.com/BEHINDTHEWALL to create an account and start uploading your music to TIDAL for free. Code: BEHINDTHEWALL Ready to release your own music? I’ve personally used DistroKid for over 6 years to release my music on Spotify, Apple Music, and streaming platforms around the world. You can also use DistroKid Direct to turn your cover art into merch and sell it directly to your fans. Use my link to get 7% off DistroKid: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306The interviews don't end when the cameras turn off. Join the Behind The Wall Creatives: https://www.skool.com/behindthewall/about where artists, songwriters, and producers learn directly from the people behind the biggest songs in the world. Next guest is Jason Evigan this month!For over 15 years, Andrew has been a songwriter in the K-pop industry, working on songs for artists like EXO, SHINee, and many more. But despite his success, Andrew quit music twice, struggling with perfectionism, depression, and the constant pressure to prove himself as a songwriter.In this episode of Behind The Wall, Andrew opens up about his journey into the music industry, how he got his first songwriting placement, why he walked away from music, and what he learned about himself and creativity along the way.We dive deep into the art of songwriting, from writing melodies and lyrics to understanding what makes a great K-pop song, collaborating with other songwriters, overcoming creative blocks, and learning to let go of perfectionism.We also explore his relationship with EJAE, how he helped her early in her songwriting career, and how she eventually helped bring him into KPop Demon Hunters. Andrew takes us behind the scenes of recording "Soda Pop," "Your Idol," and "Free," sharing stories about becoming Jinu's singing voice and how the film changed his life.This conversation is about so much more than KPop Demon Hunters. It's about finding your purpose, navigating the ups and downs of a creative career, learning to believe in yourself, and rediscovering your love for something you once walked away from.Whether you're a songwriter, artist, producer, or anyone pursuing something creative, I hope Andrew's story inspires you to keep going.
I'm so excited to finally share this conversation with Mike Sabath!Mike is one of the incredibly talented songwriters and producers who's helped create some of the biggest songs in music today. From working with RAYE on songs like “Escapism.”, “Oscar Winning Tears.”, and “WHERE IS MY HUSBAND!” to collaborating with Shawn Mendes, Camila Cabello, Selena Gomez, J Balvin, and so many others, Mike has been a part of some truly incredible music.But what makes Mike so special isn't just the songs he's worked on. It's the way he thinks about music, creativity, collaboration, and the relationships that make great art possible.In this episode of Behind The Wall, we dive into his creative partnership with RAYE, the stories behind some of their biggest songs, his experiences with legendary creative minds like Rick Rubin and Pharrell, and the lessons he's learned throughout his journey.And what I love about this conversation is that it goes so much deeper than just making hit songs. We talk about trusting your instincts, finding your own creative voice, building meaningful relationships, and what it really takes to turn an idea into something that connects with millions of people.💡 This conversation is for YOU if:🔥 You're an artist, songwriter, or producer trying to take your craft to the next level🔥 You've ever wondered how songs like “Escapism.” and “WHERE IS MY HUSBAND!” came to life🔥 You want to understand how some of the most creative minds in music approach their work🔥 You've ever doubted yourself or struggled to trust your own creative instinctsWhat stood out to me most about Mike was his passion for music and the way he approaches creativity. It's a reminder that behind every song we love are people, relationships, ideas, and countless moments that most of the world never gets to see.Mike, thank you for opening up about your journey, sharing your experiences, and letting us go deeper into the music you've helped create. I'm incredibly grateful we got to have this conversation, and I genuinely hope it inspires the next generation of songwriters, producers, and creatives.And thank you to everyone who continues to support Behind The Wall and makes conversations like this possible. It means more than you know.Welcome Behind The Wall with Mike Sabath. 🙏🎵 Ready to release your own music? I’ve personally used DistroKid for over 6 years to release my music on Spotify, Apple Music, and streaming platforms around the world. You can also use DistroKid Direct to turn your cover art into merch and sell it directly to your fans. Use my link to get 7% off DistroKid: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306🎶 The interviews don't end when the cameras turn off. Join the Behind The Wall community, where artists, songwriters, and producers learn directly from the people behind the biggest songs in the world:https://www.skool.com/behindthewall/about📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Musichttps://nas.com/behindthewall/products/dxue⬇️ More of Mike SabathInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikesabath/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFIfAP2Nc6MH3?si=a26a38a6057e4f63YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkBY4T2IX68z3OYCSrtkr2A⬇️ More of DanielYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWallInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall
Alex Warren has had one of the craziest journeys in music.Before millions of people were listening to his songs, Alex was homeless, had lost both of his parents, was afraid to sing in front of people, and was being told that maybe singing wasn’t for him. Today, he’s become one of the biggest new artists in the world.I got to sit down with Alex for Behind The Wall and go all the way back to the beginning to understand how he got here, the stories behind his music, and how so much of his life eventually found its way into his songs.We talk about losing his parents, the last letter his dad left him, his relationship with his wife Kouvr, learning to believe in himself as an artist, the strategy behind getting his music heard, and what it actually took to turn music into a real career.But this episode isn’t just about Alex’s success. It’s about everything that happened before it, and what artists and creatives can learn from his journey.🎵 Ready to release your own music? I’ve personally used DistroKid for over 6 years to release my music on Spotify, Apple Music, and streaming platforms around the world. You can also use DistroKid Direct to turn your cover art into merch and sell it directly to your fans. Use my link to get 7% off DistroKid: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306🎶 The interviews don’t end when the cameras turn off. Join Behind The Wall Creatives to learn directly from the hit songwriters, producers, and artists behind the music you love, connect and collaborate with other creatives, and become a better artist, songwriter, or producer: https://www.skool.com/behindthewall/ 💡 This conversation is for YOU if:🔥 You’ve ever been told you weren’t good enough🔥 You’ve ever doubted whether you could actually make it🔥 You’re an artist or songwriter trying to turn your own experiences into music🔥 You want to understand how Alex went from creating content online to building a real career as an artist🔥 You’ve ever felt like giving up on something you really wantedWe also dive into the stories behind his music, his songwriting process, how he approaches getting his songs in front of people, what he learned from years of creating online, and how his life has changed as his music has reached more and more people.What stood out to me about Alex’s story is how many different points there were where he could have stopped. He didn’t start out believing he was an incredible singer or knowing that music was going to work. He dealt with doubt, rejection, and people questioning whether he could actually do it, but he kept going.That’s a huge part of why I started Behind The Wall in the first place. I want these conversations to show the part of someone’s story that you don’t always see once they’ve made it. It’s easy to look at someone like Alex today and see the success. It’s a lot harder to see everything that had to happen before anyone was paying attention.Alex, thank you for taking the time to sit down with me, for sharing your story, and for letting us go Behind The Wall together.And thank you to everyone who continues to support Behind The Wall and makes these conversations possible. I hope this episode reaches someone who’s been told they aren’t good enough and reminds them that other people don’t get to decide how your story ends.
Tove Lo is behind way more hit songs than most people realize.From her own hits like “Habits (Stay High)” and “Talking Body” to helping write songs like “Heroes (we could be),” Ellie Goulding’s “Love Me Like You Do” and “Still Falling for You,” Tove Lo has quietly been behind some of the biggest pop songs of the last decade.In this episode of Behind The Wall, Tove Lo takes us inside the stories behind the songs, from the records that launched her career as an artist to the massive hits she’s written for other artists. We talk about how these songs actually came together, her songwriting process, becoming an artist after starting out as a songwriter, and the stories behind some of the biggest moments of her career.This is Tove Lo like you’ve never heard her before.
Ne-Yo didn't just make some of the biggest songs of the 2000s. He wrote them for himself and so many others!🎵 Ready to release your own music? I’ve personally used DistroKid for over 6 years to release my music on Spotify, Apple Music, and streaming platforms around the world. You can also use DistroKid Direct to turn your cover art into merch and sell it directly to your fans. Use my link to get 7% off DistroKid: https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306🎶 The interviews don’t end when the cameras turn off. Join Behind The Wall Creatives to learn directly from the hit songwriters, producers, and artists behind the music you love, connect and collaborate with other creatives, and become a better artist, songwriter, or producer: https://www.skool.com/behindthewall/about In this episode of Behind The Wall, I sat down with Ne-Yo to go behind the songs, stories, and career of one of the most successful songwriters and artists of his generation.Before the world knew him for songs like “So Sick,” “Miss Independent,” and “Closer,” Ne-Yo was already building his career as a songwriter. He went on to write and collaborate with some of the biggest artists in the world, including Beyoncé, Rihanna, Mario, Celine Dion, and more.We talk about the stories behind some of his biggest songs, how he approaches songwriting, what makes a song connect with millions of people, writing for other artists versus himself, becoming an artist in his own right, and the lessons he's learned throughout more than two decades in the music industry.This conversation is for YOU if:🔥 You grew up listening to 2000s R&B🔥 You want to know the stories behind some of the biggest songs of that era🔥 You're a songwriter, artist, or producer trying to get better at your craft🔥 You've ever wondered what actually goes into writing a hit song🔥 You know Ne-Yo the artist, but have no idea just how many songs he's been behindOne of my favorite things about Behind The Wall is getting to sit down with the people behind the songs we all know and give them the space to tell the stories we don't always get to hear. Ne-Yo has been part of the soundtrack to so many people's lives, both through his own music and the songs he's written for others, and I'm really excited for you to hear this conversation.If you enjoy the episode, subscribe to Behind The Wall for more conversations with the artists, songwriters, producers, and creatives behind the music you love.More of Ne-Yo ⬇️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@neyo⁩  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/21E3waRsmPlU7jZsS13rcj?si=gjT0SMczSwWnLYJZYok1Xg📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neyo/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neyo⬇️ More of Daniel📺 YouTube: / @danielswall📸 Instagram: / danielwall 📱 TikTok: / danielswall
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