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Amplifying voices and spreading light through honest and open-minded conversation. We're here, we're Queer, we're Married! Meet your hosts, Bevan and Matt. Tune in for chats on self-growth, personal tales, challenging topics and a fresh perspective on issues that matter to us all, with a free-thinking and fiercely Queer throughline that guides us through every episode. Laughs, realness, and a big embrace of diversity await. 🌈🎙️
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In this episode we chat with ex-evangelical pastor, Brian Recker, about his journey from leaving an evangelical church, to becoming a fierce ally for love, equality and healthy spirituality.
We talk about deconstructing religion, faith, sex, shame and relationships.
(2:25) Brians faith journey and walking away from the church.
(14:45) Conversion therapy and shame.
(16:30) Faith and sexuality.
(21:15) Has the bible become an Idol?
(27:30) Who really was Jesus?
(32:40) Letting go of 'Hell'.
(35:00) How did Brian come to be a fierce Queer ally?
(49:10) Sex, shame and relationships.
Amie McNee is an Author, a Speaker and a creative Coach. In this episode we dive deep into the world of the creative with Amie, we discover what it takes to be seen for your Art, and talk through the challenges we face along the way.
(06:50) Denying your creativity.
(08:45) Amy's writing and books.
(10:40) Why do we need art and creativity?
(18:40) Finding community.
(20:40) Creating without recognition.
(30:00) Journaling.
(35:00) Taking your space.
(40:25) Sharing your Art, and sharing it more that once!
(43:00) A.I. and the future of Art.
(55:00) Capitalism and Art.
Amie can be found in Instagram at @inspiredtowrite and her website amiemcnee.com
Welcome back to 'Out in the Open'! Join us this season for chats on self-growth, personal tales, challenging topics and a fresh perspective on issues that matter to us all; with a free-thinking and fiercely Queer throughline that guides us through every episode.
In this episode, we wrap up the year with a recap of Season 1.
We discuss the swings and roundabouts of the creative hustle, staying resilient, Matt's upcoming Melbourne Theatre debut, and some of the funniest stories working in Hospitality.
We have merchandise too!!
(01:00) Merchandise!
(2:26) Progress in the creative sphere here in Melbourne.
(3:50) Art is important.
(7:40) Working in hospitality.
(10:00) Bevan's past life as a flight attendant.
(20:00) Matt's theatre debut in Melbourne
In this episode we chat with Opera Star, the Diva herself, Helena Dix!
Come with us on a lyrical journey as we laugh and sing our way through Helena's success story, from singing to an aircraft full of passengers at a young age, to performing the dream role of Norma at the Metropolitan Opera in New York.
(2:20) Warming up with Helena.
(4:20) The beginnings of Helena's singing journey.
(5:20) Helena's debut on a plane!
(7:40) Struggle is a challenge for Helena.
(8:45) Managing nerves while performing.
(10:07) Performing under every circumstance.
(17:45) Metropolitan Opera in New York
(19:45) Pavarotti
(23:00) Opera for beginners. Where to begin.
(27:30) Singing in different languages.
(40:55) Knowing yourself.
(44:55) What is Bel Canto?
(48:00) Auditioning for Metropolitan Opera in New York.
(54:00) Helena's dream role in New York.
(59:00) Taking a compliment.
In this episode, we speak to Jacob Miller about finding our identity through clothing, sustainable fashion, the role of Op Shops in our lives, and the joy and connection that we can find through clothing and expressing ourselves through fashion. Jacob is the Senior Manager of Op Shop for Uniting Vic/Tas.
(5:29) Fashion and sustainability.
(7:50) Evolution through fashion.
(12:10) Being brave and finding strength in authenticity.
(17:50) The art of giving a compliment.
(19:25) Being present - Op Shops bringing people together.
(34:45) We are there for you.
(49:50) Coco Chanel heels!
(56:00) Feeling greatful.
In this episode, we talk with watercolor artist, Jess Keeli. Jess is a self-taught artist and now runs a successful art business.
We discuss when Jess first went viral on social media, her favourite things to paint, how art can give back to the community, and what it means to be a Creativity Advocate.
(9:00) Viral post(12:55)
Favourite things to paint
(16:00) Being a Creativity Advocate
(24:00) Art at school
(30:25) Art, trauma and healing
(33:00) Internet trolls
In this episode, we chat with Dr. Carlton about all things sexual health.
Dr. Carlton is known for his advocacy in the queer space and gives regular sexual health tips on his social media channels. He has travelled the U.S. conducting sexual health seminars and has been featured in the Advocate and New York Times, as well as being part of the #Out100 in 2022.
(3:45) Everyone has a butt.
(11:00) The Butt clock!
(17:00) All butts are different.
(19:30) Comparing ourselves to porn.
(23:50) Marriage equality.
(26:50) Pillars of sexual health.
(42:50) Dr. Carlton's kids - how do they identify?
(48:00) Dr. Carlton and Billy Eichner!
(53:50) Surrogacy.
(55:38) Final words.
In this episode, we chat with financial advisor, Jess Orrico about our relationship with money and how we can better cope and manage financial stresses in our lives.
(3:25) Money is linked to every aspect of our lives.
(3:55) Our relationship with money.
(9:15) Comparing ourselves to a false image of life.
(9:48) Money and masculinity.
(17:50) Financial tips.
(22:00) Happiness and joy with money and finances.
(25:10) More money more GREED!
(27:30) Honest conversations about finances.
(33:30) Tips for young people.
(35:00) Saving money.
(35:50) Mindfulness and money.
This week we chat with Adam Cox. Adam is a trainer, coach, and mentor for single gay men. Adam helps gay men to let go of their past, to heal, to gain clarity on what they truly want, and empowers them to launch into confidently creating a life that is aligned with their heart and soul. We discuss the complexities and challenges that gay men face, finding our authenticity, and moving through the world of dating.
(1:30) Adam's story.
(5:02) Our own stories and being programmed.
(9:00) Online dating - Which category do I fit into?
(10:54) Adam's struggle with drugs - A catalyst for change.
(12:54) Bevan's body dysmorphia.
(23:00) The experience of using the apps.
(25:20) Growing up gay.
(32:50) Learning to love ourselves.
(33:48) Bevan's healing process after his stroke.
(43:00) Finding authentic connection.
This week we dive into SLEEP! We spend a third of our lives sleeping, and it's important to understand why. Kirsty McCulloch is an expert in Sleep, Fatigue Risk Management, and Human Factors. We dive into the different cycles of sleep, and what they do for our bodies, and we further understand just how to get a good night's sleep in general.
(3:00) Bevan's sleep tests and being probed!
(4:00) The study of sleep.
(6:40) What is fatigue v being tired.
(8:00) Our attitudes toward sleep.
(9:25) Can oversleeping affect us?
(10:50) Sleep v lifestyle.
(14:40) How screens affect our sleep.
(17:27) Healthy sleep habits with children.
(19:00) How to get better quality sleep.
(24:50) Our sleep cycles.
(27:35) Bevan's sleep cycle
(30:25) Dreaming and our consciousness.
(38:20) Efficient sleeping.
(39:00) Mental health and sleep.
(41:00) Key takeaways for better sleep.
In this episode, Matt talks about his experience, as a young adult, being on reality TV with his Dad. He shares the struggles of being closeted while in the spotlight and the challenges he faced in coming to terms with his sexuality.
(3:10) How did Mick & Matt end up on MKR?
(6:15) The MKR audition process.
(12:00) Maybe Mick had an inkling that Matt was gay...
(14:00) How Mick & Matt bonded through their experience on TV.
(21:10) Publicity, being closeted in the public eye. Being questioned about girlfriends.
(25:20) Getting a job in radio. Matt's first radio demo.
(27:00) Giving the 'straight' life one final crack.
(28:00) The moment that Matt knew he couldn't live a lie anymore. First experience with a man.
(29:28) Coming out, and telling the family.
(34:50) Coming out publicly. Magazine article.
(36:50) The worst year of Matt's life.
(39:00) Getting to know yourself.
(42:00) Bevan comes into Matt's life.
(44:15) The early challenges in Bevan & Matt's relationship.
(47:25) The road trip when Bev & Matt fell in love.
(49:10) Bevan is a screamer!!
In this episode, we dive into the world of drag with Tassie Queen, Pussay Poppins. Pussay tells us her drag story, explains what drag means to her, the freedom it brings, and how it has given light to her life. We also talk about the current political climate of drag, and the challenges that Queer people face.
(2:15) Drag in Tasmania. Pussay's various projects.
(7:40) What actually is Drag?
(11:30) Backlash from Drag Storytime.
(13:00) The current political climate around Drag.
(16:20) Drag in front of children. Representation.
(20:00) Growing up in a small town. Bevan opens up about his past.
(28:35) Pussay's work ethic and drive.
(34:40) The power and beauty of drag.
(44:10) Pussay (who is also a Physiotherapist) tells us the benefit of wearing heels!
(57:35) What can we continue to do to be strong and visible as a queer person?
Matt and Bevan share what they have learned since starting the podcast a few weeks ago.
Bevan also dives into his faith journey and discusses the toll that religion took on his life, and how he started living truthfully and authentically as a gay man.
(2:00) Self-editing.
(5:38) Coming back to presence.
(5:50) Watching your pets do a wee or poo. What?! Bliss when taking a shit.
(7:15) Matt's time working in radio. What it meant. Reminiscent feelings on the podcast.
(10:20) Bevan's faith journey.
(16:55) Homosexuality and faith. The toll it took.
(18:50) Jesus. Who this man was, dissociated from religion. What he stood for.(24:00) Toxic religion.
(25:15) How can someone stuck in religion, seeking truth and authenticity, help themselves to get more out of life?(30:08) The moment Bevan started living his truth and walked away from his marriage, and a life of inauthenticity.
In this episode, we chat with Caleb Rixon. Caleb is a stroke survivor and is passionate about creating a world where people who are touched by trauma are empowered, resilient, and connected.
In part two we talk to Caleb about his dating life and the rediscovery of his body post-stroke. Bevan shares details about how he first connected with his body after his stroke.
(1:00) Entering the dating pool post-stroke.
(13:40) Bevan's first sexual experience post-stroke.
(18:00) Caleb and Bevan discover their bodies again.
(26:55) The apps in the gay world. Their effect.
In this episode, we chat with Caleb Rixon. Caleb is a stroke survivor and is passionate about creating a world where people who are touched by trauma are empowered, resilient, and connected.
In part one we dive into the story of Caleb's stroke, as well as Bevan's stroke. We discuss the journey of healing post-stroke.
(5:15) Caleb's stroke
(9:50) Caleb as a performer.
(13:00) Losing your creative identity post-stroke.
(30:15) Dealing with shame.
(44:04) Privilege, and hope.
In this episode, we chat with Psychosexual Therapist, Ashley Macklin about the greatest strengths and weaknesses in relationships, relationship dynamics, and polyamory. Bevan and Matt open up about their own relationship.
(2:25) What is Psychosexual Therapy?
(5:35) Openly discussing sex.
(8:50) Four horsemen of the relationship apocalypse. Relationship dynamics.
(29:53) Bevan & Matt therapy - Boundaries.
(34:26) Ethical non-monogamy.
(40:25) Polyamory.
In this episode, we chat with Penny McDonald about The Alexander Technique, and how to use it to tune in with our bodies. Penny talks to us about first, second and third circle and the power of presence. Penny also tells us about her tours working alongside Hugh Jackman, and how the Alexander Technique helped him in performance.
(2:37) What is the Alexander Technique?
(7:09) Where did the Alexander Technique come from?
(9:14) The Alexander Technique and Acting
(12:23) What is first, second and third circle.
(17:30) Being present.
(27:00) Penny's work with Hugh Jackman.
In this episode, we chat with Lisa Roberts-Scott about Voicefulness; tuning in with not only our physical voice, but also our truth.
(1:50) Lisa's time studying the voice in Italy.
(14:00) What Lisa means to Matt.
(19:45) Voicefulness - What is it?
(25:50) Bevan's 'stupid things'.
(35:00) Who do you think you are?
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