Claim OwnershipThe God Journey - 2022 (Season 18)
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Slinging Freedom All Over the Place
Wayne Jacobsen and Brad Cummings launched The God Journey in March of 2005 to encourage people who were thinking outside the box of religious obligation, those who wanted to follow Jesus even if they had some concerns about the efficacy of religious institutions in our day. They wanted to encourage other people on their journey by honestly sharing their own. As former pastors, authors and counselors, Wayne and Brad offer an engaging mix of wisdom, humor, and compassion for those wanting to find an authentic relationship with God. They talked freely about the failures of religion and the fallacies of secularism in our culture in an open, accessible dialogue that would be helpful, enlightening, and entertaining to believers and nonbelievers alike. They celebrate the adventure of growing in the life of Jesus in an ever-increasing secular society in a way that is intelligently accessible and practically relevant.
They talked about everything—events in their personal lives, their own struggles and questions, and their growing edges. They also comment on current events, religious trends, and Scriptures that have helped them engage God. But they wanted it to be an ever-expanding conversation with those who are thinking outside the box of religious obligation, so they have also added voices from others around the world who are on similar journeys. They also share listener emails and blog comments as they invite others into the conversation. In 2006 and 2007 listeners to the podcast had a front-row seat as Wayne and Brad helped Paul Young re-write and then publish The Shack. The enthusiasm of the audience here helped turn it a world-wide publishing phenomenon as books were shipped out of Brad’s garage.
In the fall of 2012, the podcast took a different direction as Brad became more involved in publishing and movies and Wayne anchored the podcast by bringing in a number of guests and co-hosts. Brad remained a frequent guest, but this allowed the podcast to expand the conversation to other voices. In recent years, his daughter Julie Williams and his good friend Kyle Rice helped with co-hosting duties. Jule brought the perspective of a young wife and mother and Kyle that of a Millenial, publisher, and counselor. You can find out more about our hosts here.
All our previous podcasts are in the archive where people can listen in order from the very first podcast, seek out specific guests that interest them, or search topically for an area of interest.
If you’re interested in the technical aspects of how we record, edit, and publish the podcast, please see our Technical Details page.
Wayne Jacobsen and Brad Cummings launched The God Journey in March of 2005 to encourage people who were thinking outside the box of religious obligation, those who wanted to follow Jesus even if they had some concerns about the efficacy of religious institutions in our day. They wanted to encourage other people on their journey by honestly sharing their own. As former pastors, authors and counselors, Wayne and Brad offer an engaging mix of wisdom, humor, and compassion for those wanting to find an authentic relationship with God. They talked freely about the failures of religion and the fallacies of secularism in our culture in an open, accessible dialogue that would be helpful, enlightening, and entertaining to believers and nonbelievers alike. They celebrate the adventure of growing in the life of Jesus in an ever-increasing secular society in a way that is intelligently accessible and practically relevant.
They talked about everything—events in their personal lives, their own struggles and questions, and their growing edges. They also comment on current events, religious trends, and Scriptures that have helped them engage God. But they wanted it to be an ever-expanding conversation with those who are thinking outside the box of religious obligation, so they have also added voices from others around the world who are on similar journeys. They also share listener emails and blog comments as they invite others into the conversation. In 2006 and 2007 listeners to the podcast had a front-row seat as Wayne and Brad helped Paul Young re-write and then publish The Shack. The enthusiasm of the audience here helped turn it a world-wide publishing phenomenon as books were shipped out of Brad’s garage.
In the fall of 2012, the podcast took a different direction as Brad became more involved in publishing and movies and Wayne anchored the podcast by bringing in a number of guests and co-hosts. Brad remained a frequent guest, but this allowed the podcast to expand the conversation to other voices. In recent years, his daughter Julie Williams and his good friend Kyle Rice helped with co-hosting duties. Jule brought the perspective of a young wife and mother and Kyle that of a Millenial, publisher, and counselor. You can find out more about our hosts here.
All our previous podcasts are in the archive where people can listen in order from the very first podcast, seek out specific guests that interest them, or search topically for an area of interest.
If you’re interested in the technical aspects of how we record, edit, and publish the podcast, please see our Technical Details page.
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"If you don't play the game, the game will play you." In their last podcast of the year, Kyle asks Wayne about the process of settling back into Southern California after their trip around the U.S. How does it feel about returning to apartment living, and where does he see their future unfolding from here? Then, they settle into a conversation about getting out of the games people play that tend to distract us from how God wants us to live. Only by following Jesus outside those games and beyond the darkness that has found its way into our thinking can we begin to know the beauty and fruit of Jesus' kingdom. How can you find a faith authentic enough to get you through any challenge and leave you ever more transformed into his image?Podcast Notes: The video version of the recording of this podcast
"Please tell them I am not a professonal counselor; I am a person with a caring heart and a listening ear." The world needs more such people to help those who have been shattered by the broken Creation. That's how Joni Menard decribed herself when Wayne asked if she could help someone. What a great description of a pastoral heart, in the best sense of the word! When he arrived in Edmond, OK, this week, Wayne sat down with Joni to discuss how each of us can provide a safe place for people to explore their pain with God.Podcast Notes: Email Joni A Hidden Wholeness by Parker Palmer The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk Brene Brown cartoon on empathy Past Podcasts with Joni Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page
Authoritative parenting has been the order of the day for most evangelical Christians, and the real damage is the conclusion that God uses those same tactics with us. Kyle and Wayne talk about some of the latest concerns about abusive parenting cultures and contemplate how so much of what is unhealthy not only finds its way into our parenting styles but also distorts our view of God's activity in our lives. More transformation occurs through love, rest, and play inside a real relationship with God than can ever happen in fear and conformity.Podcast Notes: God Journey listeners: We Need Your Help in Kenya Again Seven Rules of Unhealthy Adult-Child Group Systems, compiled by Jane Bluestein, Ph.D.Adults are the masters of the dependent child.Adults determine in a godlike fashion what is right and wrong.The child is held responsible for the anger of adults.[Adults] must always be shielded.The child's life-affirming feelings pose a threat to the autocratic [adult].The child's will must be "broken" as soon as possible.All this must happen at a very early age so the child "won't notice" and will not be able to expose the adults. From “For Your Own Good: Hidden Cruelty in Child-Rearing and the Roots of Violence” by Alice Miller, p 59 The video version of the recording of this podcast Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page Audio Playerhttp://media.blubrry.com/the_god_journey/www.thegodjourney.com/audio/2022/221111.mp300:0000:0000:00Use Up/Down Arrow keys to increase or decrease volume.Podcast: DownloadSubscribe: RSSParenting In Grace4/24/2009In "Show content"Am I Supposed to Change My Kids? (#670)3/8/2019In "Show content"Treasuring Your Children (#680)5/17/2019In "Show content"#God's love#Kyle Rice#Parenting#parenting systems#Poisonous Parenting#Poisonous Pedagogy#The God Journey#Wayne Jacobsen
Without the freedom to say no, authenticity will be swallowed up by obligation when people want something from you. How do you know when saying " No thank you" is being selfish and when it allows you not to be trapped by others? Once again, Sara joins Wayne and Kyle for an update on their travels, both physically and spiritually, and they find themselves also talking about the freedom of being genuine, holding the pain of others without taking responsibility to fix them, embracing how special we are to God without elevating ourselves above others.Podcast Notes: The video version of the recording of this podcast Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page
What would it change in the way we live our lives if we knew salvation is not primarily about getting us into heaven but about God rescuing us from the dark places where the broken Creation has twisted us? Kyle And Wayne explore the idea that Jesus really did come to bind up the broken-hearted, set free the oppressed, and give sight to the blind. How would that change our presentation of the Gospel in the world They also talk about whether or not Jesus can really understand our feelings of failure, having never failed himself.Podcast Notes: The video version of the recording of this podcast Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page
Climbing up the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia in the full beauty of fall foliage and basking in the joy of Sara's growing freedom, Wayne has an unanticipated engagement with God. He is still sorting out what it all means and invites Kyle to ponder it with him as he seeks to discern What Father was making clear to him. If valid, Wayne saw the 64-year arc of God's working to answer the desperate cry of a seven-year-old girl and how Jesus had been behind the scenes to transform their hearts.Podcast Notes: Redeeming Love Podcasts The video version of the recording of this podcast Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page
Chances are you know someone who has been traumatized, and trying to communicate past their trauma can be difficult and frustrating. While you think you're helping them you unintentionally make them feel more threatened. What do you do when a spouse or good friend can't see or isn't ready to address their trauma? Kyle and Wayne focus on how to communicate through trauma, talking about when to risk vulnerability, what to do when someone regrets telling you something intimate, and how to ensure that telling someone what's true does not exceed their security in your affection for them.Podcast Notes: Redeeming Love Podcasts The video version of the recording of this podcast Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page
Healing and transformation take a bit of time and the process can be draining. If we don't honor the process in our own journey we will be easily side-tracked by the compelling lies that can draw us into the darkness or be two busy to recognize and follow Father's work in us. Discovering how the Spirit is leading us to healing takes some attunement to his heart and the willingness to risk our illusions of safety to find our true security in his love and truth. (The recording of this podcast was featured on Facebook Live on The God Journey page. You can use the link below to see it. "Like" our page if you want to be notified of live recordings in the future.)Podcast Notes: Redeeming Love Podcasts The video version of the recording of this podcast Deep Trace by Tessa Van Wade Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page
Your life is too unique for anyone else's plan or process to provide what you need, which is why Jesus sent his Spirit to guide you into all truth. Kyle and Wayne reach back to answer some of the most difficult questions that arise for people surviving trauma, especially with religious approaches to healing. As they respond to emails from lilsteners, they cover forgiveness for the perpetrator, compassion for former abusers, and how wants to work with you for the raw, honest questions resulting from trauma.Podcast Notes: Redeeming Love Podcasts Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page
The love we want from God may not be the love God knows we need to experience. How can we embrace his fullness if we're always judging him by our expectations? As Ann Voskamp says in Waymaker, "God is love, but if we get it turned around and make being loved our God, we will get lost in self." This is a continuing look at love, rest, and play and how we enter into a transformative relationship of affection with the God who loves us more than anyone ever has.Podcast Notes: Redeeming Love Podcasts Ann Voskamp's Waymaker Loving our Kids on Purpose Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page_____________ The next session of the Jake Colsen Book Club will be held Saturday, September 24, at 11:00 am PDT. You'll have to work that out in your own time zone. We will be covering Chapter 6 on Father God or Fairy Godmother as we look at our expectations about God and hs love for us. We will stream it live on my Facebook Author Page but if you want to be part of the conversation, you can get a link to the Zoom Room by emailing Wayne and asking for it,_____________ The next session of the Jake Colsen Book Club will be held Saturday, September 24, at 11:00 am PDT. You'll have to work that out in your own time zone. We will be covering Chapter 6 on Father God or Fairy Godmother as we look at our expectations about God and hs love for us. We will stream it live on my Facebook Author Page but if you want to be part of the conversation, you can get a link to the Zoom Room by emailing Wayne and asking for it,
What would it mean for a spouse to give a trauma victim the benefit of the doubt? One wife answered it this way, "It would be that you would believe that where I have been, what I have done or not done, has never been to hurt you. I've only been trying to survive." Those words are from another woman to her husband about her trauma but speak so well for what many feel. Wayne and Sara process this email along with questions from others about the trajectory of their healing from trauma, incuding where was God 64 years ago, when Sara was being violated by her grandpa, and how the moments of reliving some of her trauma resolved enough for her to go back to sleep.Podcast Notes: Dana's Poem about Trauma Redeeming Love Podcasts Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page on Facebook
Wayne and Sara have begun their cross-country trip and that opens a conversation with Kyle about God's desire to restore our innocence, where sin and trauma have intruded upon it. Then they pick up the conversation about transformational love with the relationship God wants to draw us into—one that finds growing security in his love, increasing rest from our own labors, and a playfulness that will help us recognize how Father is revealing himself even in our most brutal circumstances and most ardent pain.Podcast Notes: Stay in the Pain Redeeming Love Podcasts Keep up with Wayne and Sara's RV journey by liking Wayne's Author page on Facebook.
Kyle and Wayne are still processing Wayne and Sara's journey through trauma just before they sold their home and left on their cross-country trip. They talk about those who don't get the miracle they hoped for and how Father leads them on, as well as Wayne's observations on whether or not God led Sara to leave. What they discover is how each of us begins our journeys in a fog of illusions, misunderstandings, and deceptions that are cultivated as we seek for comfort and safety by our own wisdom. The invitation Father extends to us is to know reality as God sees it—about him, about us, and about our circumstances. Truth can be challenging, however, and if we don't discover truth secure in his love, we will often miss it by clinging to our illusions.Podcast Notes: Redeeming Love Podcasts Follow Wayne and Sara's RV journey by "following" or "liking" his Facebook Author Page.
How do you get back to the regularly-scheduled podcast after the story that has unfolded here in the last seven weeks? That's the challenge for Kyle and Wayne as they talk about the aftermath of doing a series like Redeeming Love as they were living in it. Looking back, they talk more about relational repair and the glue that can draw together broken relationships with God's healing. But that takes both parties willing to move toward honesty and tenderness, and there is precious little of that in our conflicted culture. Those who follow Jesus need the strength of character to be misunderstood and continue to be kind and vulnerable, knowing that in their weaknesses, God's glory unfolds best.Podcast Notes: Redeeming Love Podcasts Follow Wayne and Sara's RV journey by "following" or "liking" his Facebook Author Page
This is the final episode of the Redeeming Love series, unpacking a very personal story of pain, trauma, redemption, and resurrection in Wayne and Sara's journey. Somehow Wayne and Sara's marriage not only survived the unrelenting darkness of trauma and the way the enemy exploited to isolate them from each other, but it is also taking them to fresh and new places in their journey together. Is there more trauma yet to deal with, and if not, what will the future hold for them?Podcast Notes: Previous podcasts with Sara - Learning Love More Deeply (2012) • Finding Our Way to Us (2020) • Finding Our Way to Us Part 2 (2020) The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, M.D. Try Softer by Aundi Kolber Being Known Podcast with Curt Thompson, MD - Season 4 is about unpacking trauma Helpful video: How to Find a Therapist_______________The next session of the Jake Colsen Book Club will be held Saturday, August 20 at 1:00 pm PDT. You'll have to work that out in your own time zone. We will be covering Chapter 5 on Love with a Hook and how crooked twists that religion puts on love. We will stream it live on my Facebook Author Page, but if you want to be part of the conversation, you can get a link to the Zoom Room by emailing Wayne and asking for it,
This is part six of a seven-part series unpacking a very personal story of pain, trauma, redemption, and resurrection in Wayne and Sara's journey. How does a couple come back from such a horrible challenge to find joy and humor again? Relationships, like anything else that gets damaged, can be repaired with careful and compassionate attention by each to the wounds of the other, owning the pain each caused and forgiving the mistakes of the other. That's where love and trust find a fertile bed to flourish once again.Podcast Notes: Previous podcasts with Sara - Learning Love More Deeply (2012) • Finding Our Way to Us (2020) • Finding Our Way to Us Part 2 (2020) The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, M.D. Try Softer by Aundi Kolber Being Known Podcast with Curt Thompson, MD - Season 4 is about unpacking trauma Helpful video: How to Find a Therapist_______________The next session of the Jake Colsen Book Club will be held Saturday, August 20 at 1:00 pm PDT. You'll have to work that out in your own time zone. We will be covering Chapter 5 on Love with a Hook and how crooked twists that religion puts on love. We will stream it live on my Facebook Author Page but if you want to be part of the conversation, you can get a link to the Zoom Room by emailing Wayne and asking for it,
This is part five of a seven-part series unpacking a very personal story of pain, trauma, redemption, and resurrection in Wayne and Sara's journey. Now that Sara is beginning to find a measure of safety in Wayne's affection, some lost and disturbing memories begin to emerge from Sara's past. Over the next few weeks, they increase in darkness and intensity as a new story emerges for her that makes sense of so much of Sara's journey and the trauma that lay hidden in her body.Podcast Notes: Previous podcasts with Sara - Learning Love More Deeply (2012) • Finding Our Way to Us (2020) • Finding Our Way to Us Part 2 (2020) The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, M.D. Try Softer by Aundi Kolber Being Known Podcast with Curt Thompson, MD - Season 4 is about unpacking trauma Helpful video: How to Find a Therapist
This is part four of a seven-part series unpacking a very personal story of pain, trauma, redemption, and resurrection in Wayne and Sara's journey. Last week, they were moving closer together but now meeting for the first time since Sara moved out unexpectedly. She wasn't wanting to test the waters on marriage again but to see if they could find a way to be friends, if not spouses, again. However, their re-connection opens a door not only to the love they have for each other but also to insight into the traumatic brain that Sara had been dealing with.Podcast Notes: Previous podcasts with Sara - Learning Love More Deeply (2012) • Finding Our Way to Us (2020) • Finding Our Way to Us Part 2 (2020) The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, M.D. Try Softer by Aundi Kolber Being Known Podcast with Curt Thompson, MD - Season 4 is about unpacking trauma Helpful video: How to Find a Therapist
How did Wayne and Sara survive their weeks apart? Both talk about what their life was like apart from each other and what they were dealing with. Not knowing yet about the trauma Sara had suffered, they dealt with so many misunderstandings that threatened to drive them apart. But even in the struggles, God was preparing a way in their hearts to give them a way back to each other.Podcast Notes: Previous podcasts with Sara - Learning Love More Deeply (2012) • Finding Our Way to Us (2020) • Finding Our Way to Us Part 2 (2020) The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, M.D. Try Softer by Aundi Kolber Being Known Podcast with Curt Thompson, MD - Season 4 is about unpacking trauma Helpful video: How to Find a Therapist The next session of the Jake Colsen Book Club will be held Sunday, July 24 at 1:00 pm PDT. You'll have to work that out in your own time zone. We will be covering Chapter 4 on why accountability will not transform you. You can get a link to the Zoom Room by emailing Wayne and asking for it the week before.
For the past thirteen weeks, Wayne and Sara have been on the strangest of journeys, that put Sara's life and their marriage at risk. Fortunately, what the enemy intended for evil has turned into a marvelous story of redemption and healing. This week, Sara joins us to share what she was going through that led up to some painful decisions she felt forced to make. This podcast is intensely personal and could also trigger some pain for those who have suffered trauma. But in the end, it is a story of hope and healing and a testimony to God's unrelenting work to bind up the broken-hearted and lead them into his freedom.Podcast Notes: Previous podcasts with Sara - Learning Love More Deeply (2012) • Finding Our Way to Us (2020) • Finding Our Way to Us Part 2 (2020) The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, M.D. Try Softer by Aundi Kolber Being Known Podcast with Curt Thompson, MD - Season 4 is about unpacking trauma The next gathering of the Jake Colsen Book Club will be held Sunday, July 24 at 1:00 pm PDT. You'll have to work that out in your own time zone. We will be covering Chapter 4 on. You can get a link to the Zoom Room by emailing Wayne and asking for it the week before.
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