Therapists' Take with Carrie and Josh

EMDR is a form a trauma treatment that his highly effective and greatly revered amongst the mental health community as well as those seeking mental services.  In case you are not aware, EMDR stands for “Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing.”  It gets its name because Francine Shapiro, the founder and primary developer of EMDR, first discovered it because of the physiological and emotional changes she felt when she moved her eyes in certain ways.  After further investigation and development, EMDR isn’t so much about eye movement as it is about bilateral stimulation.  In other words, stimulating both hemispheres of the brain with the intentional purpose of reprocessing trauma has shown to be highly effective in healing and trauma recovery work. In this episode, Carrie Kyger is joined once again by Rebel Buersmeyer who is back again to substitute in as co-host in place of regular co-host, Joshua Nichols. Carrie and Rebel are trained EMDR therapists, who make regular use of this unique form of trauma treatment in their private practice.  Here is the breakdown of the episode: 1. Who Is EMDR Most Effective For? 2. What Else Can It Be Used For? 3. What Is EMDR Like from the Client’s Perspective? Thanks for tuning in.  As always here are some helpful links related to this discussion: • Find an EMDR Therapist at Family Solutions Counseling - https://familysolutionsok.com/about/ • Find an EMDR Therapist Near You - https://www.emdria.org/find-an-emdr-therapist/ • EMDR Article by Rebel Buersmeyer - https://tinyurl.com/4dzj22xj • Treating First Responders - https://www.youtube.com/live/SEB6-vFQetY?si=KrVOavpeeJDNy8UR • Book: Getting Past Your Past by Francine Shapiro - https://amzn.to/3yl8fjT _____________________ Therapy Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website - https://www.familysolutionsok.com. Follow us on our other platforms which include Instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ________________ As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Are our first responders heroes in your view, or are they villains? It seems like these two camps are often feuding back and forth on mainstream and social medias. In this episode of Therapists’ Take, we hope to offer up a different perspective. We aim to take a look at our first responders in such a way that reminds us that they are human. They are flesh and blood like you and me. And not unlike many groups or professions, they are faced with a unique set of mental, emotional, and relational challenges, which happens to be part of the sacrifice each and every one of them make for their communities. In no way are we making excuses for bad policing or even suggesting bad policing doesn’t exist, but our hope is put compassion back into the equation as we take a deeper dive at the human being behind the badge. In this episode of Therapists’ Take, we are excited to have a couple very special guests join us. Derek Thomason is a licensed professional counselor who serves as a mental health therapist for the Oklahoma City Police Department Wellness Unit. Additionally, our colleague and business partner, Rebel Buersmeyer returns to Therapists’ Take. She is a licensed marital and family therapist with training and experience working with families of fallen first responders. Our guests are in the mental, emotional, and relational trenches with first responders on a regular basis. We are honored to have them join us. _______________ 00:00 - Hi, Carrie (banter) 02:56 - Guest Introductions 07:00 - About Rebel Buersmeyer, LMFT 08:35 - About Derek Thomason, LPC 10:26 - Episode Breakdown 12:10 - Unique Mental Health Challenges 20:14 - Rebel Explains the Vagel Nerve 25:33 - Unique Relational Challenges 31:24 - Partners of First Responders 42:08 - Remembering Their Humanity 52:00 - Books & Other Resources ______________ Please be sure to check out the resources below: Books - The Body Keeps the Score - https://amzn.to/44tr4h0 - Emotional Survival for Law Enforcement - https://amzn.to/3WrtVVz - I Love a Cop - https://amzn.to/4dme1C3 - A CHiP on My Shoulder - https://amzn.to/4boxK22 - A Marriage in Progress - https://amzn.to/3Wsttqm Resources - The Warriors Rest Foundation - https://www.warriorsrestfoundation.org - C.O.P.S. - https://www.concernsofpolicesurvivors.org - How to Love Our Cops - https://www.how2loveourcops.org/ - EMDR Therapist Directory - https://www.emdria.org/find-an-emdr-therapist/ Videos - EMDR w/ Rebel Buersmeyer - https://youtu.be/G692ymBkg-4?si=Z_fcfKFCLqQSuBGp - EMDR w/ Derek Thomason - https://youtu.be/_7oBFC11Do0?si=blFTgFEgQCgvR_I7 ______________ Please follow us on all our social medias and check out our podcasts by clicking our LinkTree - https://linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ______________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website -https://www.familysolutionsok.com. _______________ Additionally, check out Mary & Josie’s new podcast by Family Solutions Media called, “Are You in session?” In this podcast, Mary & Josie welcome you into their minds, friendship, and their ever “shrinking” world. You can find it on YouTube (@RecoveryTV4u), Apple Podcast, Spotify, and a variety of other podcast platforms. And, stay tuned for the newest Family Solutions Media podcast to enter the podcasting universe - Poetry in Layers. In this podcast, therapist, author, and spoken word artist, Carl Patterson, will perform a series of poems with a unique mental health flavor. You don’t want to miss it. So stay tuned. ________________ As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases.

This is a throwback interview that I conducted on March 18, 2019 with friend and colleague, Travis Ernst. Although the interview is several years old, I still think the information still holds up. Here's the youtube link - https://youtu.be/VnDdfbllDOQ In this episode of RecoveryTV LIVE, our guest expert - licensed therapist, Travis Ernst - addresses the issue of gambling addiction. Travis is the clinical director of a local organization in the OKC metro area that specializes in gambling addiction treatment among other forms of addiction and family-related treatments. Travis sheds light on many elements surrounding this phenomenon we call gambling and gambling addiction. Links, as promised: National Council on Problem Gambling - https://www.ncpgambling.org/ Oklahoma Association on Problem & Compulsive Gambling - http://www.oapcg.org/ RecoveryTV Social Media Links and Website: -~-~~-~~~-~~-~- Please watch: "How to Handle Intrusive Thoughts in Sex Addiction Recovery" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfPOphLTTNk -~-~~-~~~-~~-~- Please follow us on all our social medias and check out our podcasts by clicking our LinkTree - https://linktr.ee/familysolutionsok

What is the emotional difference in being “loved” versus being “liked?” Does it really matter? Well, we think it does! In this episode of Therapists’ Take, Carrie and Josh are going to discuss the nuances and purposes of these emotional experiences and why they matter to relationships. Joining them in this discussion will be marriage therapist and author of the book “Liked: Finding the Acceptance that Matters Most,” Ben Thompson, LMFT. Below are the chapters for this episode: ___________ 00:00 - Hi, Carrie! 01:55 - Introducing Ben Thompson, LMFT 03:56 - Structure of this Episode 04:38 - About the "Liked" Book 07:55 - Carrie's Pediatrician Story 11:10 - LOVE vs LIKED 20:23 - LOVE GETS THE GLORY! 23:26 - THE RELATIONAL UNSUNG HERO 27:10 - Liking Self Comes First. 31:33 - Ben's Writing Journey ___________ Book: “Liked” by Ben Thompson, LMFT - https://amzn.to/4aYy33u Video: “Three Fears that Prevent Self-Acceptance” featuring Ben Thompson, LMFT - https://youtu.be/tGmP-up679I?si=nO-j_v0TcNcR2zXf Book: "ScreamFree Parenting" by Hal Runkel - https://amzn.to/3QxYlC7 ___________ Follow, like, subscribe and see more great content here. http://www.linktr.we/familysolutionsok __________ Therapy Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website -https://www.familysolutionsok.com. _______________ Additionally, check out Mary & Josie’s new podcast by Family Solutions Media called, “Are You in session?” In this podcast, Mary & Josie welcome you into their minds, friendship, and their ever “shrinking” world. You can find it on YouTube (@RecoveryTV4u), Apple Podcast, Spotify, and a variety of other podcast platforms. And, stay tuned for the newest Family Solutions Media podcast to enter the podcasting universe - Poetry in Layers. In this podcast, therapist, author, and spoken word artist, Carl Patterson, will perform a series of poems with a unique mental health flavor. You don’t want to miss it. So stay tuned. ________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 #TherapistsTakePodcast #LikeYourself #LoveOneAnother #MentalHealthPodcast #Podcast #MarriageHelp #LikedBook #Poweroflove

Here is another bonus episode from the beginning of Therapists' Take when it was a LIVE show only and not a podcast. Hope you enjoy! Communication is easy! We all do it whether we are intentional with it or unintentional. We are always saying something even if we are saying nothing. The challenge with communication is learning to be effective in it, which is easier said than done. In this episode of Therapists’ Take, licensed therapists take on one of the most fundamental elements and challenges to human existence as they tackle what it means to be an effective communicator. Quotes from the Show: "One cannot not communicate." - Paul Watzlawick "You say it best when you say nothing at all." - Alison Krauss ______________________ 00:00 - Intro 02:00 - Insecurities Are Injured Feelings (Vulnerabilities) 12:00 - Curiosity & the Nugget of Truth 21:25 - Creating Safety within Self 29:40 - Book recommendations _____________________ Book recommendations The Seven Principles for Making a Marriage Work by John Gottmann - https://amzn.to/42URZjT The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman - https://amzn.to/3nVUT97 The Untethered Soul by Michael Singer - https://amzn.to/3LXot61 __________________ Great Clip on Curiosity from Ted Lasso - https://youtu.be/3S16b-x5mRA Van Jones Clip on NOT paving the jungle - https://youtu.be/Zms3EqGbFOk __________________ Therapy Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website -https://www.familysolutionsok.com. _______________ Follow us on our other platforms which include instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ________________ As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases. _________________ #CoupleCommunication #EmotionalSafety #effectivecommunication

What is a “good enough” marriage? Shouldn’t we aspire for “great” or even “better-than-good” marriages? In this episode of the Therapists’ Take Podcast, marriage therapists and podcast hosts, Carrie and Josh, will discuss why they believe the “good enough” marriage is superior to all other types. ______________ 00:00 - Hi, Carrie! 05:00 - Cultural Myths of Marriage 14:50 - Settling vs. Reimagining 27:20 - Hard Realities & New Experiences 37:30 - The Way Forward _____________ Therapy Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website -https://www.familysolutionsok.com. _______________ Additionally, check out Mary & Josie’s new podcast by Family Solutions Media called, “Are You in session?” In this podcast, Mary & Josie welcome you into their minds, friendship, and their ever “shrinking” world. You can find it on YouTube (@RecoveryTV4u), Apple Podcast, Spotify, and a variety of other podcast platforms. And, stay tuned for the newest Family Solutions Media podcast to enter the podcasting universe - Poetry in Layers. In this podcast, therapist, author, and spoken word artist, Carl Patterson, will perform a series of poems with a unique mental health flavor. You don’t want to miss it. So stay tuned. Follow us on our other platforms which include instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok _______________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases.

PDF Download of "The Compassionate Response Continuum." - https://tinyurl.com/r3jdyevr Have you ever been in a relationship that was so high in conflict it seemed like no matter what you said or how you responded it was met with even more intensity? Did it feel kind of like throwing water on a grease fire? This is actually a common experience where conflict as escalated in emotional intensity. This is especially true for couple who are in betrayal trauma recovery from the discovery of infidelity or seggs addiction. But, these are the only reasons couples might be experiencing an ever-increasing conflictual relationship. Whatever the reason may be, the Compassionate Response Continuum was created to be a helpful communication tool in effort to help couples navigate these treacherous waters. In this episode of Therapists’ Take, licensed therapists Carrie and Josh are going to discuss the unique elements of the couple communication tool so you can have a better understanding of how it can be utilized in your relationships. Here is the original YouTube video for the Compassionate Response Continuum - https://youtu.be/egB0tiNA8X4 __________________ Therapy Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website - https://www.familysolutionsok.com. Follow us on our other platforms which include Instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok _______________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases. #BetrayaltraumaRecovery, #compassionmatters #mentalhealthpodcast

Second chances may seem easy for some and hard for others. Most of us can probably relate to leaning one direction or the other when we find ourselves in a situation where a second chance may or may not be warranted. But, how do we know we are doing it right? Most of us likely can feel the tug-a-war going on inside where on one side your desire is to give them one more chance, but on the other side is screaming "no way!" as it pulls on the rope. In this episode we will be discussing these types of concerns related to giving second chances (and more). The chapters are outlined below: ______________ 00:00 - Hi, Carrie! 02:00 - Topics of Discussion 03:18 - Huberman Scandal 04:10 - Are Carrie & Josh "2nd Chance" People? 10:00 - (1) Easy for Some, Hard for Others 13:34 - Dad Jokes 14:30 - (2) Cheap Forgivers vs Hard Liners 26:36 - (3) Tips for the Healthy Middle 29:40 - Non-negotiable Boundaries 39:25 - Healthy Expectations 41:10 - Apologies _____________ Books by Janis Abrams-Springs: How Can I Forgive You? - https://amzn.to/4cDtIo8 After the Affair - https://amzn.to/3xksSws --------------------- Therapy Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website -https://www.familysolutionsok.com. Follow us on our other platforms which include instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases.

“You know what you should do?” “Stop! That’s now how you’re supposed to do it!” “Okay, here’s what you should do…” Can you hear yourself saying those words? Can you picture that person in your life or in your past constantly telling you what you should and shouldn’t do? Does it make you cringe a little? Most of us can relate to moment or two where you proceeded to tell someone what they should or shouldn’t do, and/or preached about how things are “supposed” to be. These words don’t necessarily reflect some sort of absolute truth, but they do reflect the governing rules of our lives and relationships. But what happens when the rule system collapses? What “should” we do then? In this episode of Therapists’ Take, Carrie and Josh will address just that and more. Below you will find the talking points for the show (don’t forget to to give us that much desired 5-star review if you like the podcast): _____________ 00:00 - Hi, Carrie! I learned something! 08:20 - Show Overview 09:27 - Explaining Concept of “Governing Rules”? 14:47 - When the Rules Collapse? 22:12 - Changing the Rules 33:05 - Polishing the Edges 35:42 - Books on Rule Failure ______________ Great Books/Stories about Rule Failure - Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl - https://amzn.to/43mbXoT - When a Monster Calls by Patrick Ness - https://amzn.to/49QrPT6 - Will by Will Smith - https://amzn.to/3Trm6MO - Hurting with God by Glenn Pemberton - https://amzn.to/3IKtSfr - Sapiens by Yuval Harari - https://amzn.to/3TmjH61 _____________ Therapy Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website -https://www.familysolutionsok.com. Follow us on our other platforms which include instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ________________ Equipment Used & Oher Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases. #TherapistTakePodcast #ChangingTheRules #existentialcrisis

Many people often describe themselves as “conflict avoidant.” Some who ascribe to this label see it as a problem or hurdle they have to overcome, while others are seemingly okay with this being a character trait they possess. But, never have we heard someone talk about this phenomenon as something to be desired. That said, is it possible that we intuitively know that being conflict avoidant at minimum isn’t helpful for our relationships, and at most, hurtful? If so, does this mean that we intuitively understand that conflict not only can be good for relationships, but also necessary for the growth and development of the relationship? In this episode, Carrie and Josh discuss these types of nuances to this common couple phenomenon we often refer to as “conflict.” __________ 00:00 - Hi Carrie! 01:55 - Overview 11:14 - Difference in Good and Bad Conflict' 18:20 - Good Pain vs. Bad Pain 25:35 - Not About Winning or Losing. 31:30 - Conflict as a Doorway to Intimacy __________ Books & Other Helpful Resources Speaker-Listener Technique - https://marriagemissions.com/speaker-listener-technique/ Fighting for Your Marriage Book - https://amzn.to/3v2IPq3 The Seven Principles for Making a Marriage work - https://amzn.to/3IuBMtm ______________ Therapy Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website -https://www.familysolutionsok.com. Follow us on our other platforms which include instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases. #TherapistTakePodcast #ConflictResolution #MarriageConflict

In honor of Eating Disorder Awareness Week, today’s episode will focus on this phenomenon known as Disordered Eating, not to be mistaken for “eating disorders.” In this episode, licensed therapist and eating disorder specialist, Rebel Buersmeyer, joins our hosts to discuss this phenomenon. __________ 00:00 - Hi, Carrie! 01:00 - Introducing Rebel 04:20 - What Is Disordered Eating? 11:20 - Disordered Eating vs Eating Disorders 18:40 - The Myth of "It Is Easy" 21:50 - Getting Help 23:06 - It's Not About Food 25:00 - What Level of Care Is for Me? 36:00 - Resources ________ Books, Podcasts, & Websites (Books) Health at Every Size by Linda Bracon - https://amzn.to/3uS011A Body Respect by Linda Bacon - https://amzn.to/3uS011A Embody: Learning to Love Your Unique Body by Connie Sobczak - https://amzn.to/3uS011A 8 Keys to Recovery from Eating Disorders (workbook) - https://amzn.to/3wEafDh (Podcasts) The Recovery Warrior - https://recoverywarriors.com/podcasts/ Butterfly: Let's Talk Eating Disorders - https://butterfly.org.au/podcast/ Fly to Freedom Podcast - https://juliatrehane.com/podcast/ (Websites) Oklahoma Eating Disorders Association - https://www.okeatingdisorders.org National Eating Disorder Association - https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org Eating Recovery Center - https://www.eatingrecoverycenter.com Family Solutions Counseling - https://www.familysolutionsok.com #EDAW #edawareness #eatingdisorderawarenessweek

I think most of us would agree that having milestones in our lives is a good thing. Milestones serve as markers to help us measure forward movement and progress; thus, in a sense, milestones help make our life goals and aspirations feel more achievable. So why would we ever fear or "dread" milestones? Why would anyone fear a marker of progress? In this episode, Carrie and Josh are going to discuss not only why certain milestones in betrayal trauma recovery are often feared, but also specific dreaded or uncomfortable milestones that individuals and couples impacted by infidelity discover is part of the recovery journey and not something that can be bypassed or skipped over. Here is the play-by-play: _______________ 00:00 - "Hi Carrie!" 01:37 - Introduction: Why "Dreaded"? 04:00 - The Acceptance of Uncertainty 12:04 - The Reality of Anger w/o Shame 17:30 - The Importance Forgiveness 29:50 - The Empowerment of Resolve ________________ Reflection Aggression (mentioned by Josh in this episode): Article - https://shorturl.at/aeTZ9 Video - https://youtu.be/twyI5Rac_5s Thanks for Sharing Podcast (Ep. 154) - https://shorturl.at/cnCMS ________________ Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website - https://www.familysolutionsok.com. Follow us on our other platforms which include instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Is humor ever appropriate for therapists to utilize in therapy? If so, when is it appropriate; and what is the point or purpose of its use? To address these questions (and more), Carrie and Josh welcome to the discussion table licensed therapists and co-hosts of the "Are You in Session?" podcasts, Mary Scruggs and Josie Blosser. _________ 00:00 - The Re-Intro 04:00 - A Summation of the Show before the Show 06:00 - The Purpose of Humor in Therapy 13:24 - When Is It Appropriate? 18:35 - "It's Funny because It's True" 22:00 - Sarcasm 27:20 - When It's Inappropriate 35:40 - Wrapping Up ___________ More about our guests: Mary and Josie are both licensed marital and family therapists working in a private practice group setting in the OKC metro area - https://www.familysolutionsok.com. They both have specialized certifications in the area of betrayal trauma treatment, and they host YouTube podcast (and soon-to-be audio podcast) “Are You in Session?” They are very bright, talented, and fun practitioners to work with. We are thrilled to have them for our guests for this episode of Therapists’ Take with Carrie and Josh. Mary’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/yourangrytherapist_OKC Josie’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jblossertherapy_OKC Are You In Session LIVE (youtube) - https://www.youtube.com/live/1UwjHaphHM4?si=xqOq6LnCtiliO47E _______________ Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website - www.familysolutionsok.com. Follow us on our other platforms which include instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Most of us know, either through direct experience or vicarious experience of someone close to us, that infidelity is a painful discovery or revelation. But, why does the pain linger? Why is it that after a year or so into hard couple recovery work does it still hurt so badly? What does this pain mean? Is it supposed to be this way? Does it ever get better? In this episode of Therapists’ Take, Carrie and Josh will address these questions and more. #TherapistsTakePodcast #BetrayalTrauma #AffairRecovery _________________ 00:00 - Intro 02:20 - How Long Am I in Couples Recovery? 12:14 - The Collapse of the Relational Infrastructure. 24:07 - Why Does It Still Hurt? 30:36 - Squirrel Moment: Mumbling 32:22 - The Path Forward _________________ Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ ________________ About the Hosts Carrie and Josh are both licensed marital and family therapists (LMFT) that specialize in betrayal trauma recovery. You can read more about them and the work they do on their practice website - https://www.familysolutionsok.com. Follow us on our other platforms which include instagram and apple podcasts. Links can be found on our Link Tree - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ________________ Book Recommendations for Betrayal Trauma: - The Betrayal Bind by Michelle Mays - https://amzn.to/4buziZj - Mending a Shattered Heart by Stefanie Carnes - https://amzn.to/42zlecS - The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk - https://amzn.to/3SUdAH5 ________________ Articles by Carrie & Josh - What Is Transitional Distrust - https://shorturl.at/gpuTZ - Introducing Reflection Aggression - https://shorturl.at/bpHPW _________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases. #TherapistsTakePodcast #MentalHealthPodcast #SelfAwareness

Are you “self-aware?” If so, how much? What is this concept we are hearing about everywhere called “self-awareness?” Well, in this episode of Therapists’ Take, not only are we going to define it, we are also going to break it down, and then discuss how to access it. We are excited to have our guest, Whitney Warren-Alexander, who is a licensed therapist, group practice owner, and EMDR consultant. Whitney has special interest in the the exploration of self-awareness and the work of Debra Littrell regarding the three channels of self-awareness (https://transformativespirit.com). __________________ About Our Guest Visit her webiste - the Warren Alexander Group - https://www.WarrenAlexanderGroup.com Follow her on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100067394941595 RecoveryTV LIVE Interview on Sobriety - https://youtu.be/pd6IjqzFobE?si=P6Qm8gCOmN89K1Kr ________________________ 00:00 - Whitney's Joke Is Funny! 04:03 - Intro 07:05 - Defining Self-Awareness 11:40 - The 3 Channels 19:38 - Trauma Is Time Traveling 20:08 - Exercise Example 25:50 - What About Relationships? 29:34 - Somatic Focus 35:10 - Gathering Info from All Channel 37:44 - Is the Body the Best Direct Source? 40:00 - Start with Mindfulness 44:13 - Josh learns about "Turn or Burn" Sermons 47:31 - Everyone Needs a Cry song _________________________ Other Resources: Book: The Untethered Soul - https://amzn.to/48ZxsOn Family Solutions Counseling - https://www.familysolutionsok.com EMDR Directory - https://www.emdria.org/directory/ Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ Domestic Violence Hotline: https://www.thehotline.org/ ______________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases. #TherapistsTakePodcast #MentalHealthPodcast #SelfAwareness

Have you ever been concerned about your therapist’s qualifications? Have you ever been alarmed by their youthful appearance (i.e., lack of life experience) or credentials, or the lack thereof? Well, if you have, you are not alone. It is actually quite common. Even a seasoned therapist’s youthful appearance may be thrown in to question from time to time. One reason we vet our therapists seemingly more often (but not always) than other medical professional is because there is something about our mental, emotional, and relational well-being that adds an extra dose of vulnerability. Thus, an inexperienced therapist can be alarming when searching for a therapist. In this episode of Therapists’ Take, we are going to tackle the unique phenomenon of working with a “newbie” therapist. We welcome to the conversation guest therapist and professor, Dr. Kelly Roberts, who serves as the clinical director of the marriage and family therapy program at Oklahoma Christian University. This means she is responsible for training bright new minds of our therapeutic future. Join us as we discuss that new therapists can be a delightful surprise as they are often more than meets the eye. ____________ 00:00 - Introduction 05:20 - Reflecting Back to Our "Newbie" Days 15:09 - When Does a Newbie Stop Being a Newbie? 21:08 - Less Is More Sometimes. 30:05 - New vs Seasoned 40:28 -A Newbie Story ______________ More about Dr. Kelly Roberts Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/reddirtkelly LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-m-roberts-phd-lmft-129a8713 Professor Profile - https://www.oc.edu/directory/kelly-roberts AAMFT Profile - https://www.aamft.org/Supervision/Search/Profiles/viewprofile.aspx?ID=94634 KOCO Interview - https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-christian-university-affordable-therapy/43440543 Recipient of the 2022 AAMFT Excellence in Media Award - https://youtu.be/1zoNf5LJ5f8?si=W4FVIljf534aI2Pd __________________ The OC MFT Program and Clinic: The Family Therapy Clinic - https://www.oc.edu/family-therapy-clinic The Training Program - https://www.oc.edu/academics/college-of-sciences-education/human-sciences/marriage-and-family-therapy-m-s-h-s The Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ocmft _____________________ Other Resources: Family Solutions Counseling -https://www.familysolutionsok.com Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ Domestic Violence Hotline: https://www.thehotline.org/ ______________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases. #TherapistsTakePodcast #MentalHealthPodcast #Newbies

Words are powerful! As our stories unfold and we find ourselves in a chapter of pain and suffering, it's not uncommon that words were utilized as the weapon of choice whether you were on the receiving end, or you were the one wielding the sword... or maybe both. But all hope is not lost. Yes, words can cut us to the core, but words can be extremely healing as well. The right combination of words along with an infectious rhythm and the proper inflection…… when done well, words can sneak by our barriers and defenses and reach right into our souls to offer us some semblance of peace and healing. We are happy to have spoken word artist and licensed therapist, Carl Patterson on Therapists’ Take to talk about the Power of the Spoken the Word. Carl is not only a phenomenal therapist, but he is also a talented spoken word artist. We hope you enjoy this LIVE broadcast of Therapists’ Take. RecoveryTV's "Words Matter" Video, ⁠click here⁠. ______________________ In this broadcast, Josh mentions hearing once that "happy people listen to sad songs." After a little more research we learned a little more about this phenomenon sometimes referred to as the "Tragedy Paradox." Here's a good ⁠article ⁠on the issue. ______________________ More About Our Guest: Follow Carl on ⁠Instagram⁠ See Carl's Therapist ⁠Profile Page⁠ Watch Carl perform the poem we had to cut ⁠Tedx Talk⁠ _______________________ Resources: ⁠Family Solution Counseling⁠ Website ⁠Psychology Today⁠ Therapist Directory ⁠Betrayal Trauma⁠ Therapist Directory ⁠The Gottman Institute⁠ (Relationship Research) ⁠Domestic Violence⁠ Hotline ______________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 #TherapistsTakePodcast #MentalHealthPodcast #WordsMatter

Therapists’ Take on Complacency and other forms of Relational Cancer. In this episode, Carrie and Josh discuss particular relational phenomenon that they consider to be cancerous to committed couple relationships. They will discuss complacency, resentment, mother-enmeshment and more. You definitely don't want to miss the part where they discuss John Gottman's "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse." See chapters and resources below: _____________ 00:00 - Introduction 03:08 - What Is Relational Cancer? 06:24 - Complacency: Keeping the "Well-Oiled Machine" Well-Oiled 12:43 - Resentment: Is It Even Functional? 19:35 - John Gottman & The Four Horsemen 23:20 - Enmeshment vs Co-Dependency 30:31 - Contempt: The 4th Horseman ______________ Books: The Seven Principles for Making a Marriage Work by John Gottman (reference to The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse) - https://amzn.to/4b0BIii Outlive by Peter Attia, MD - https://amzn.to/3RXTQAy When He's Married to Mom by Kenneth Adams (reference to Mother-Enmeshment) - https://amzn.to/3HqWlpX _____________________ Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 The Gottman Institute (Relationship Research) - https://www.gottman.com/ Overcoming Enmeshment Workshop for Mother-Enmeshed Men - https://www.overcomingenmeshment.com/workshop/mother-enmeshed-men/ Domestic Violence Hotline: https://www.thehotline.org/ ______________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9

Therapists’ Take on Selfishness. As therapists we often hear the word selfishness thrown around either toward another person or in reflection of how one feels about self. Selfishness is a complicated concept that is worth exploring. For example, what’s the difference in selfishness and selflessness? What about the difference in selfishness and self care? How does codependent giving fit in the mix? In this episode, Carrie and Josh giver their take on the complexities of these concepts. Enjoy the show! ________________________ 00:00 - Introduction 06:30 - Why a Podcast Episode on Selfishness? 10:45 - Selfishness 15:05 - Self-care 25:35 - Selflessness 29:23 - Codependent Giving ________________________ Book: Daring Greatly by Brene Brown - https://amzn.to/47o7d2K ________________________ Happy New Year! Enjoy these articles written by Therapists' Take Co-Host, Joshua Nichols A New Approach to a New Year (2022) - https://familysolutionsok.com/a-new-approach-to-a-new-year/ 5 Tips for New Year's Resolutions Success (2018) - https://familysolutionsok.com/a-new-approach-to-a-new-year/ New Year's Resolution Worksheet (PDF) - https://familysolutionsok.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/New-Years-Resolution-Worksheet2.pdf _________________ Follow us across all social medias - https://www.linktr.ee/familysolutionsok ______________________ Resources: Therapist Directory: https://www.psychologytoday.com Betrayal Trauma Therapist Directory: https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 Domestic Violence Hotline: https://www.thehotline.org/ ______________________ Equipment Used & Other Amazon Links: Mic Stands - https://amzn.to/46o4So6 Rode Pod Mic - https://amzn.to/3Rsw5Sz Pyle Mixer Board - https://amzn.to/3ZsJU5g iRig Pre 2 - https://amzn.to/3ZpCPm9 As Amazon Associates, we earn from qualifying purchases. #TherapistsTakePodcast #MentalHealthPodcast #Selfishness

How do couples survive infidelity? This is a very common question that has doesn’t have a simple answer. There aren’t any magic pills or formulas that a hurting couple can take that will not only kill the pain, but also heal the wound. Yet, couples survive infidelity everyday. Not only do they survive, they often thrive on the other side of it. In this episode, licensed therapists and betrayal trauma experts, Carrie and Josh tackle this question and examine many of the complexities and nuances packed within. They will discuss: ____________________ The Painful Reality of Uncertainty The Power of Paradoxes The Journey of Self-Discovery, and The emergence of a new relationship ____________________ Books, Articles, & Websites BOOKS Betrayal Bind by Michelle Mays - https://amzn.to/3NWbKD4 The State of Affairs by Esther Perel - https://amzn.to/3NFGsPw Out of the Doghouse – by Rob Weiss - https://amzn.to/3Xzeh99 ARTICLES FSC Blog - https://familysolutionsok.com/blog/ Article on Transitional Distrust - https://familysolutionsok.com/what-is-transitional-distrust-in-betrayal-trauma-recovery/ WEBSITES Family Solution Counseling - https://familysolutionsok.com/ Seeking Integrity - https://seekingintegrity.com/ Michelle Mays - https://michellemays.com/ ______________ Therapist Directories Betrayal Trauma Therapists - https://iitap.com/search/custom.asp?id=5357 Other Therapists - https://www.psychologytoday.com