The Illumify Game Changer

In this episode, we begin the leader’s journey by meeting Jonathan who, upon agreeing to play the Game Changer publicly through this podcast, cautioned me “I’m not a leader”. As you listen, you may hear him reveal otherwise -- whether he recognizes it yet, or not.   1:54: Discovery of language 3:00: Love for Europe begins 10:38: Urgent need to talk about Europe 15:00: The state of the world  23:00: What does the word “leader” evoke? 28:35: Expectations of the Illumify Game Changer 36:21: Do you see yourself as a leader? 43:00: “I do feel I have things to say and want to say them.” 58:00: Stories are not enough. We need to put our bodies on the line. 1:14:37: The word vision has gone missing. 1:19:50: Vision is vital to igniting change.   Produced by NOVA

Jonathan begins his leader’s journey by first denying that he is in fact a leader. But in this minisode from Episode 1, he soon reveals that there are causes dear to his heart, and that he “has things to say.” Listen to the full episode here:  https://illumifyinc.com/podcast/01-the-leaders-journey-begins-part-1/   Produced by NOVA

In this episode, we explore the power of vision and storytelling in leadership, diving deep into the pursuit of truth. Jonathan examines how leaders balance looking forward with honoring the past, and how authenticity, competition, and dignity shape the path to meaningful change.   00:37 Distinction between visionary and storyteller 11:19 “The pursuit of truth matters”. 27:07 Communicating a vision of the future in current times 31:45 The importance of pursuing the truth 41:11 Vision versus agenda 47:01 “Human rights sit on the idea of the soul”. 47:40 “Every child is born with a sacred dignity that can never be taken away.” 54:13 Do you hear yourself when you speak? 57:56 Why do you see a social setting as a competition? 01:05:08 Friendship is almost the absence of competition 01:13:11 A unique voice   Produced by NOVA

Jonathan and Marianne explore the foundations beneath human rights—the sacred dignity and soul inherent in every child. In this minisode, they reflect on the limits of language, the role of faith and metaphor, and the profound truth that grounds our shared humanity. Listen to the full episode here: 01. The Leader's Journey Begins, Part 2  Produced by NOVA

Now the Game Changer begins. This is the first in the Illuminate phase of the questions, each of which surfaces insights to illuminate the change most meaningful to you. This first question is a loaded one, deliberately.   00:59: Reference Cards: Illumify Definition & Guidelines for Play 09:00: Listening with your heart instead of your head 15:00: Who are the lost? 16:32: The first Illuminate question 18:58: Feeling small and insignificant 25:52: Is significance visible or invisible? 34:21: Struggling to see own significance 35:16: Culture’s impact on significance 39:30: Modesty as control mechanism 41:46: Is it possible you’re a natural winner? 45:24: “Inequality is antithetical to everything I believe in.” 50:28: “We need a new political vision that restores and revives a true idea of equality.” 52:58: “At some point the world calls you and tells you what you need to do.” 55:54: Waiting versus knowing what is meaningful to you 1:01:09: The desire to serve the community runs deep 1:09:38: What scenario would make you significant? 1:17:35: Seeing the contradictions with your significance 1:18:22: The difficulty in seeing yourself as significant 1:19:31: “Significant change takes significant leadership.” 1:21:28: You can illumify on two levels. 1:25:59: “A vital aspect of the good life is trying to be better than we were yesterday.” 1:26:25: What happens after pursuit of excellence is achieved? 1:35:04: “The pursuit of excellence in itself is a virtue.”   Produced by NOVA

Igniting significant change takes real leadership. How do you lead if you don’t see that you are significant enough to make this change? In this minisode from Episode 2, Jonathan grapples with his own significance.   Listen to the full episode here: 02. The Leader’s Significance Produced by NOVA

This episode begins with Jonathan sharing his reflections on the last question where he grappled with the prospect of being significant. This next Illuminate question gets to the heart of him seeing what perhaps only he can see that needs to change. But first he has to wrestle with intolerance and how words can serve the truth.   01:01: Reflections on last card: Significance 09:40: Reading the Reference cards 17:30: The second Illuminate question 20:32: Intolerance as aggressive 23:34: Decisions as an act of intolerance 25:11: Commitment to excellence 32:48: “What triggers me is that we live in a post-truth world”. 34:50: Why isn’t truth in the constitution of democratic societies? 41:30: Is it possible to accomplish this without being significant? 42:55: “It’s the truth inside the words that matters.” 44:58: Words matter, despite what the body language experts say 47:07: You can articulate what you see through your mastery of language. 49:01: Giving people a choice to act or not to act 50:10: “I recognize the anger within me.” 52:00: “Vision is absolutely fundamental. Your starting point. It’s why you exist.” 55:18: The importance of a vision and how it’s articulated 1:03:00: A different awareness of relationship with vision? 1:04:00: “I have things to say, and I want to say them.” 1:06:14: The legitimacy of the European Union 1:08:00: The thread of his vision emerges 1:12:50: What does the word “visionary” mean to you? 1:19:40: “I do want to create a new way of seeing Europe.” 1:21:16: “Politics at its most fundamental level is about the choices we make.” 1:24:45: Recognize your unique capacity to ignite meaningful change. 1:27:00: Truth with a capital T, and how values influence it 1:37:40: Connection as sharing, unified with each other 1:50:14: Does a visionary need to be a mechanic? 1:57:57: Is it an advantage to have multiple voices in your head? 2:07:50: “I often see my own mind with its different voices as a Parliament.” 2:09:58: Consciousness, tea bags and the visionary 2:13:19: We all contain multitudes but do have unity through memory. 2:16:00: Are we able to unify all those voices into a common vision? 2:23:11: The power of conversation to slow things down 2:28:12: Final Answer to Illuminate Question 2   Produced by NOVA

Jonathan has spent a lot of his professional life in the political realm. Perhaps as a result, he sees beyond what politics is now to what it could and should be. In this minisode from Episode 3, he shares his perspective on politics, and discovers that it’s part of what makes him and his leadership distinct.   Listen to the full episode here: Season 1: 03 – The Leader’s Intolerance For What Is Now Produced by NOVA

This episode focuses on the heart to help point Jonathan to what he cares about that needs to change. He speaks of dignity, wholeness and heartache, all while experiencing a wide range of feelings coming from his heart.   00:58 Illuminate Question 3 05:07 What makes my heart ache is the suffering of children. 08:18 Dignity not always the word in the Constitutions but the digging takes us to sacred dignity. 10:10 In every newborn child, there is a dignity that doesn’t need to be earned. It’s inherent in the spirit, the soul, of the child. 13:22 The word “wholeness” is important here. We can borrow religious language into our secular life. 25:27 Our journey is one of repair. We are walking down that road to character, becoming the better version of ourselves. 31:32 The two ideas of dignity and brokenness can co-exist. I think there is a sanctity in the human soul. It lies below wholeness and sin and is inviolable. 42:40 Even just seeing it, the child suffering produces enough heartache for a lifetime. We carry it around with us. 44:44 The heart also aches because your own idea of the world, what you believe in, is being violated at the same time. 47:34 The book “1984” signals the extinction of humanity, that it could happen. 49:09 We have to understand the power of ideas to mobilize people. 54:08 What’s inspiring about the European Union is that it’s a constant, a permanent, attempt to reconcile all these competing voices. That’s what makes it heroic. Trying to reconcile competing visions of the good life. 59:06 I’ve got things to say and want to say them. What am I waiting for? 1:11:43 Digging together, you feel this is the only thing that matters because of the power of conversation. 1:19:45 Consciousness is the page. 1:27:17 Father Europe vs. Mother Europe 1:37:38 Revival or stagnation? 1:46:02 Final answer   Produced by NOVA

To help identify what change would be meaningful to you, you can look to your heart to see what makes it ache. That’s what Jonathan does in this minisode from Episode 4. And it leads him to capturing it with words that are not usually part of his vocabulary.   Listen to the full episode here: 04. The Leader’s Heartache   Produced by NOVA

In this episode, Jonathan answers the Illuminate question designed to reveal what is most meaningful to him. You could say his answer gets to the heart of the matter. Integrity plays a pivotal role in this conversation, and we see new dimensions of a leader’s vision.   00:58 Reference Card Reading 03:12 Illuminate Question 4 07:11 The heart as tool of discernment and ultimate filter 11:11 Accessing courage 15:53 Renewing our heart to connect, function and act 10:25 Integrity ( wholeness, facing yourself, accountability) 28:00 Necessity for visionary not to have tolerance for anything but the purest of integrity 30:50 Relationship between necessary and intolerable 33:18 The vision represents something new and whole versus woolly and vague 50:00 Great leaders make powerful declarations 55:18 All visions are declarations, painting the big picture of a world that does not exist yet 58:56 Empathy 1:03:56 Do we need to take on the feelings of others? 1:07:34 Final Answer to Illuminate Question 4   Produced by NOVA

As a leader, igniting your vision of change isn’t just a “Wouldn’t it be nice if?”. In this minisode from Episode 5, Jonathan sees that for his vision to be true, it also has to be necessary.   Listen to the full episode here: 05. The Leader’s Integrity    Produced by NOVA

In this episode, Jonathan is prompted to answer the question by listening to his inner wisdom. Within mere seconds, he answers with a powerful declaration of what could be different. The conversation then veers into community, how it’s unified and fragmented, and explores unison and truth. It’s another big conversation. If you listen carefully, you’ll hear Moose, our beloved English corgi, settling in to listen at our feet.   00:00 Illuminate Question 5 02:07 “I know that we could live together better. We have to stand on new ground.” 07:03 While the vision itself must be entirely new, we need to take from our past what we know to be true. 22:30 Ritual gains strength over time. 28:00 More than tradition, there’s this wisdom. We know why it matters. 33:00 A community is unified through its shared memories of the local football club. 37:12 Nottingham City of Rebels: The story of a new vision emerging within the football stadium. 50:54 Concept of “necessary fragmentation” 54:00 Stumbling through life, we pursue wholeness and integrity and accept and understand our fragmentation. 56:00 The idea that we pursue wholeness and integrity 57:00 The moment of surrender when we cannot deny the truth that we now see, and realize that we have been going down the wrong path. 1:04:00 The necessary intolerance of “Never Again” came after surrender. 1:05:00 Unison: how does it fit into your vision? 1:08:40 Unison vs harmony, and the time when we need to silence the Parliament of voices and find unity within ourselves 1:11:58 “We can live differently together.” 1:16:00 “Where we live together as a community, the recognition of our diversity is clearly not enough. Unity is necessary as well. 1:19:00 Democracy’s own ambition makes it fragile. 1:20:44 European Union is trying to reconcile competing visions and ideas of the good life. 1:25:46 What’s on that new ground? 1:32:48 “We need unity around Truth. When we are united in a single vision of why truth matters, then we can pursue it in our own way.” 1:34:10 Final Answer Produced by NOVA

How does a community unite when its members are fundamentally diverse? In this minisode from Episode 6, Jonathan declares that it’s not just possible; it’s true. Because we know we have lived it before.    Listen to the full episode here: 06. The Leader’s Inner Wisdom    Produced by NOVA

This next question proves challenging – so challenging that at one point Jonathan, the master wordsmith, is at a loss for words. And that’s ok because it reveals a lot about why resistance to change can come from deep within ourselves, even when we know something has to change. Fasten your seatbelt for this one as there are a few sharp curves in the road. But we have a few laughs along the way.   01:12 Reference Cards – why do we repeat, particularly words and phrases? 07:45 Repeating’s role in changing thought and action 11:35 Amplifying 12:55 Two levels of “illumifying” –you and your meaningful change 15:05 Illuminate Question 6 16:55 When we want deep, enduring change across a community, it needs to take root everywhere. 20:53 An idea, a vision, may need time to reach everybody. 24:03 The moment of creation of a vision is much more explosive within the person. 25:12 The visionary’s need to be proactive. 26:30 A story of resistance to change 33:00 What the visionary does 34:48 Everywhere all at once? 41:20 What do YOU see as the opportunity for meaningful change from the perspective of where you stand? 45:55 Struggles to articulate what the opportunity for meaningful change is 54:19 A new understanding of the truth and why it’s so important. 56:20 Could it be some aspect of a truth that is currently invisible to them? 1:00:25 What if there are certain individuals who have the capacity to help the many? 1:06:54 Could you be the visionary shining the light on what needs to change but not the leader igniting it? 1:08:15 Definition of “ignite” 1:11:50 The risks of creating a vision as a group. 1:14:10 Modesty vs superpowers vs gifted 1:22:20 How does being lost for words feel? 1:25:22 “I’ve never been at peace with my silence.” 1:30:00 A story of what emerged while walking his dog 1:35:51 The necessity of being heard, and pain of not being listened to 1:39:40 Good conversations wake you up. 1:41:38 A funny story about death :) 1:46:35 “Know thyself” would be my t-shirt: Katherine 1:47:37 A story illustrating a “David Lynch moment” 1:51:00 The link back to “new ground”. 1:55:30 Where we land Produced by NOVA

So many organizations launch change from the top—then move on, expecting the rest to follow. But meaningful, lasting change isn’t a one-time announcement or a quick handoff. It requires persistence, patience, and a willingness to face resistance—both from others and from ourselves. When we treat change as a checklist item, it rarely takes root. Real transformation happens only when leaders are able to engage, align and mobilize  others to act to ignite the change. That doesn't happen in an instant. Leaders have to be able to express the change so it becomes meaningful enough to others to quell their resistance and evoke them to act.   Where have you seen change initiatives succeed—or stall—for these very reasons?

This episode begins with Jonathan reflecting on why he hit resistance with the last question, delving into pride, nationalism, and the power of emotion to sway. He considers the importance of focused attention and its relationship to meditation. Then he answers the next Illuminate question,  diving deeper into what matters to him: the power of language, finding your true voice, and how humans don’t need AI in order to connect with each other.   01:06 Reflections on Card 6 02:00 “Resistance comes from your attachment to your identity. That’s why letting go is so hard.” 04:50 A lot of this is linked to pride. It’s the death star. 08:22 As the evidence stacks up that we were wrong, we double down and shout louder. 13:40 I see more clearly how through our conversation together, we had made our way to a more unified image of what meaningful change is: language and its relationship with truth. 18:16 European Union as a human experiment in our desire and need to reconcile competing values, competing interests, doesn’t deny our national identities. It holds them together. 20:08 The slogan “Unity in Diversity” is brilliant, a brilliant attempt to reconcile the irreconcilable. 26:50 Hammering people with the facts and ignoring the emotion 30:30 Reference Card Reading: focused attention, distraction, getting lost in what matters 40:07 Illuminate Question 7 41:03 “I have something to say.” 43:00 Language’s ability to convey volume, force and fragility 44:50 Why can it be so debilitating for many to use their voice? 49:13 Importance of authenticity 52:46 A story of speaking up 55:56 “I’ve found the courage to accept that language is what I do.” 1:08:45 “Choosing the word that comes next is one of the most human things we do.” 1:12:13 Through language, we get to dig to get a sense of what it means to be human. 1:15:00 “The truth is in the words” has changed me 1:16:35 We have gone down the wrong path in so many ways 1:22:10 If we communicate through AI, what happens to our trust in language? 1:23:15 We tune out to leaders speaking with banalities and platitudes. 1:27:33 Humans don’t need machines to help us connect with each other. 1:31:33 Final Answer   Produced by NOVA

We often believe that facts alone will convince, but lasting change is rarely born in the realm of logic. Brexit was a lesson in what happens when heart and emotion are left out of the conversation. Even the most rational arguments can fall flat if they fail to connect on a human level. The truth is, transformation—personal or collective—requires more than information. It asks us to reach each other, not just with ideas, but with feeling. That’s where real change begins.   Listen to the full episode here: 08. The Leader’s Resistance 

This episode goes right to the heart of it, exploring the connection between joy and igniting meaningful change. It’s interesting that Jonathan, a self-described non-believer, is so attuned to the soul.   00:55 Reference Cards: The difference between “I think”, “I believe”, and I know” 05:40 Illuminate Card 8 11:00 There’s joy in being with the crowd. It’s uplifting. 12:35 What does worship mean? 15:25 Joy as an outpouring, going over the limits, uncontained 16:00 Joy as the fuel of the soul 18:40 Digging for dignity, where the human starts, the part that can’t be taken away. 20:55 Feeding vs fueling the soul 22:55 Is it possible to admire one’s self? 25:00 Fully accepting all of one’s self is not easy 29:30 Surviving vs. thriving 35:00 “Come on then” -- A childhood story never told before 40:55 “At some point, fear becomes intolerable.” 45:29 Back to worship… A plea or a provocation? 50:45 Going to a concert is a conscious desire to go beyond your limits. 52:05 “As a non-believer, I am very comfortable saying that worship is healthy and necessary, and fulfilling some deep need that I don’t fully understand.” 55:55. “When we’re radiant, I see it as the soul expanding at that moment and filling the person. At that moment, there’s nothing but the soul.” 58:20 An anecdote of joy walking 1:03:50 Joy is a unique emotion, deeply connected to the soul. 1:04:44 Can we ignite meaningful change without tapping into our soul? 1:11:50 Going back to the source where we refuel ourselves. 1:13:00 What brings you joy? [“A moment of expansion when we become bigger than ourselves.” 1:14:47 Lack of joy in state of survival 1:17:00 Final answer [“We just need to be plugged in again.”]   Produced by NOVA

Sometimes joy isn’t something new—it’s a return to what we’ve left behind, an invitation to remember who we are at our core. In the latest episode of The Illumify Game Changer Podcast, we talk about what it means to “unforget” our joy and reclaim the practices that expand us. The Illumify Game Changer Podcast reveals our award-winning methodology for expressing the leadership that induces others to help ignite meaningful change. Learn more at illumifyinc.com.