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Author: Shawn Austin Johnson

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Welcome to Pay or Quit, the podcast for entrepreneurs and business owners who are ready to face the unfiltered truth of what it takes to succeed. Host Shawn Austin Johnson brings you a show that goes beyond the polished success stories and dives into the real, messy, and often challenging aspects of business ownership.

This podcast is designed for those who sometimes feel alone in their entrepreneurial journey, struggle with imposter syndrome, and find themselves on the brink of burnout. We understand the highs and lows you face, and we're here to provide the reassurance and candid insights you need to keep pushing forward.

Shawn and Tony aren't afraid to tackle the tough conversations and offer their seasoned perspectives on what truly matters in business. From industry trends to personal challenges, each episode cuts through the noise and delivers the raw, unvarnished truth. Expect in-depth discussions, spicy takes, and occasional interviews with guests who are ready to confront the hard questions head-on.

Tune in every week to get a behind-the-scenes look at the realities of entrepreneurship. It's not always pretty, but it's always real. Buckle in, because it might get messy.

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Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Launching New Beginnings: A Dive into Business Ventures This podcast episode marks the launch of a new series where the hosts (Tony Cline & Shawn Austin Johnson), two small business veterans, discuss their personal journeys, initial meetings, and shared experiences in the field, including starting and scaling property management firms, innovating within the in...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Navigating the Complex World of Property Management In this episode of 'Pay or Quit', hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into crucial aspects of property management, emphasizing the importance of proper timing when implementing value-associated fees and the pitfalls of fee maxing in the property management industry. They explore how bad timing can leave landl...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here In this episode of the "Pay or Quit" podcast, hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the world of property management. The episode kicks off with a discussion on the critical importance of timing when introducing value-associated fees in property management, setting the stage for a broader conversation about industry practices. After warmly welcoming li...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Welcome to Pay or Quit, the podcast where Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the real secrets of property management—from landlord-tenant relationships to investment strategies and everything in between. In this episode, we tackle the resilience of successful CEOs, future impacts of AI on business, building impactful marketing strategies, and the ins and o...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the essential components of building a championship team in the business world. They start by discussing the foundational elements like mission, vision, and core values, explaining their critical role in setting the direction and aligning the company. The conversation then shifts to...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into contentious business topics, including the impact of B players in a team, the advantages of value maxing over fee maxing, the importance of building a sales team, and the perils of boredom in business. Plus, Tony shares his experience with the Moab 240 race. 00:00 Introduction 02:13 Moab...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Strategies for Effective Masterminds and Real Estate Investing In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into the importance of providing feedback and the best ways to share experiences rather than directives in professional settings. They introduce key elements of successful masterminds, emphasizing the significance of clear and c...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here The Gritty Truth: Success, Complacency, and Entrepreneurial Struggles In the season finale of 'Pay or Quit,' hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into the complex emotions and setbacks that come with both near wins and monumental successes. They explore how success can breed complacency, drawing parallels from sports to entrepreneurial ventures. The episode of...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here The Secret to Workforce Retention: Clint Pulver’s ‘I Love it Here’ and the Power of Mentorship In this episode, Clint Pulver, Emmy Award winner, speaker, pilot, and author, discusses his book 'I Love It Here,' which reveals insights about effective leadership and employee retention. He shares how the Undercover Millennial Program helped him understand the reality ...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here From Alpaca Shearing to Real Estate Investing and Beyond In this episode, Marty Hofmann shares his journey from an agricultural upbringing to becoming a serial entrepreneur with ventures in real estate investment and alpaca shearing. Emphasizing the importance of mindset shifts and intentionality, Marty discusses his transition from traditional to entrepreneurial ...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Chad Hymas: Transforming Tragedy into Triumph In this thought-provoking episode, Chad Hymas shares his inspirational life story, beginning with a tragic accident that left him with severe disabilities. At the age of 27, a ranch mishap resulted in a broken neck, paralyzing Chad and confining him to a wheelchair. Instead of succumbing to despair, Chad chose to focus...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Redefining Success: Courage, Health, and Financial Wisdom with Tony Cline In this episode, Tony Cline delves into his redefined vision of success, emphasizing peace, morality, and quality of life. He shares his battle with celiac disease, detailing the misdiagnosis struggles and the importance of core values and courage in business. Tony reflects on pivotal life m...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Shawn Johnson: Financial Freedom, Leadership, and Overcoming Entrepreneurial Challenges Exploring financial freedom, the journey from employee to entrepreneur, and the emotional trials of leadership. Insights on impactful leadership, personal growth, and mission-driven investments. 00:00 Navigating Life's Storms 00:37 Introduction to Pay or Quit 00:52 Meet Your H...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Mastering Delegation: From Tasks to Leadership In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson discuss the importance of effective delegation for entrepreneurs, emphasizing the transition from managing everyday tasks to leading a team. Drawing on insights from Craig Greshel and Donald Miller, they explore how empowering employees with authority and autonomy can enha...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Why Small Businesses Fail: The Gritty Truth In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson explore the common reasons why small businesses fail, drawing insights from a local restaurant's closure. They discuss the importance of leadership, customer engagement, and avoiding burnout. They also stress the need to innovate continuously, understand customer needs, and s...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here From Professional Helicopter Pilot to Successful CEO Entrepreneur Halsey Schider shares his journey from being a professional helicopter pilot to founding Sellacopter, a breakout helicopter sales company that is disrupting the helicopter sales space, and now they are branching into the jet and airplane sales industry. Follow Halsey: Instagram: https://www.instagr...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Scaling a niche entertainment business in multiple cities: Cody Stovall, a pastor who turned his passion for escape rooms into a thriving business. Cody shares the challenges he faced in opening venues, dealing with family business dynamics, and navigating the uncertainties of the COVID-19 pandemic. He emphasizes the importance of market research, customer experie...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Mastering Mindset and Financial Discipline for Wealth Building A dive into essential principles for building and maintaining wealth. They discuss the importance of reshaping mindset, setting clear financial goals, and the power of compounding interest. They also cover strategies for reducing expenses, increasing income streams, and disciplined spending habits. The...
Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Mastering Financial Freedom: The Intersection of Entrepreneurship and Personal Growth In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson discuss the importance of financial education, personal growth, and overcoming a 'happenstance lifestyle.' They reveal their strategies for transitioning from financial stress to generational wealth and the lessons they've learned th...
Send us a text Balancing Success: Career, Relationships, and Entrepreneurship with Berenice Brito Shawn Johnson, along with his guest, Berenice Brito, discuss the misconception that success in career and relationships can't coexist. Joined by guest Berenice Brito, a nurse turned coach, they explore overcoming limiting beliefs, the importance of setting boundaries, and sustainable business-building practices. Berenice emphasizes the significance of neuro-linguistic programming, time managemen...
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