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The Lawmas Podcast

Author: Lauren & Lacey

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Juggling courtrooms and playrooms, legal briefs, and bedtime stories...
Meet Lauren and Lacey, two powerhouse attorneys and moms who are laying down the law on work-life balance. Lauren handles estate planning, while Lacey is a criminal defense attorney. And together, they're The Lawmas!
Join them as they dive into into the chaotic world of running law firms while raising families, where they share war stories from the courtroom and the playground, while offering tips on building a thriving practice without missing soccer games and dance class...
These two prove that moms really can do it all - with a little help from coffee and wine! From estate planning emergencies to criminal defense dilemmas, these legal eagles tackle it all with wit, wisdom, and a whole lot of heart.
So whether you're a working mom, an aspiring attorney, or love a good laugh... Tune in to The Lawmas Podcast. Where justice meets juice boxes!
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey continue their Homicide for the Holidays series with two devastating family-centered cases that unfolded around Christmas. Before they discuss homicide, they walk through a complex legal question involving immigration, criminal charges, and victims’ rights, asking whether deportation should wait until a criminal case is resolved when victims are involved. The episode then turns deeply tragic. One case out of Washington details a brutal Christmas Eve family annihilation driven by greed, where parents, a brother, and two young children were murdered over a dispute involving rent and money. The second case, out of Pennsylvania, centers on a mother and her daughters murdered just days before Christmas, a surviving infant, and a father whose crimes were rooted in years of abuse and an impending trial. Through legal insight and thoughtful discussion, Lauren and Lacey examine motive, prosecution decisions, the cost of justice, and how often holiday violence is tied to family dynamics rather than strangers, making these cases especially haunting. #thelawmaspodcast #homicidefortheholidays #legalpodcast #lawmoms 
It’s the most wonderful and chilling time of the year on The Lawmas Podcast! Lauren and Lacey kick off their Holiday Homicide Series, mixing Christmas lights with true crime darkness. They start with a horrifying Christmas Eve massacre in California, where a man dressed as Santa turned a family celebration into tragedy, and follow it with a shocking New Year’s Eve story from Colorado involving teenage killers and a cult-like leader. Between eerie details, legal insights, and late-night laughs in pajamas, this episode shows how quickly holiday cheer can turn to chaos and why family law attorneys might have one of the most dangerous jobs out there. #thelawmaspodcast #holidayhomicides #laurenandlacey #lawmoms #lawpodcast
In this laid-back, laughter-filled episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey take a break from true crime to talk about real life, real stress, and the chaos of being working moms during the holidays. From favorite musicals and nostalgic TV re-watches (hello, Gilmore Girls and One Tree Hill) to court deadlines, snoring husbands, and the fine line between saving money and actually enjoying life, this episode is part vent session, part reminder to slow down and live in the moment. They share personal stories about work, family, loss, and gratitude, reminding listeners that it’s okay to be overwhelmed, it’s okay to spend on memories, and it’s okay to laugh through the exhaustion. #thelawmas #gilmoregirls #lawmoms #onetrellhill #lawmomspodcast
In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey tackle two very real, but very different topics. They start with a tough conversation about caring for aging parents and the harsh realities of elder care laws, costs, and responsibilities. From guardianships and Medicaid to what happens when loved ones can no longer care for themselves, they talk through what families need to know, and why the system often fails middle-class Americans. Then... they switch gears to the headlines surrounding recent incidents at major theme parks like Disney and Universal. The hosts discuss where liability really falls when accidents happen, what those waiver agreements mean when you buy a ticket, and how misinformation can spread faster than the truth online. It’s a mix of real-life law, compassion, and the practical side of navigating complex systems, with a touch of Lawmas humor, of course. #thelawmaspodcast #nursinghomes #rollercoasters #DisneyDeaths #lawmoms #lawpodcast #legalpodcast
In this episode, Lauren and Lacey mix pop culture with a dose of legal reality! The episode starts with a reminder about kindness and mental health as the holidays approach, reflecting on how stress and silent struggles can affect anyone, even attorneys. The conversation turns to the legal headlines: Kim Kardashian’s latest setback on the California bar exam, and South Carolina politics, where claims about Attorney General Alan Wilson spark a discussion on misinformation and how the justice system really works. From bond hearings to sentencing, the hosts break down what’s fact versus fiction and remind listeners why understanding the law matters before sharing, or believing, what’s online.   #thelawmaspodcast #lawmoms #KimKardashian #AlanWilson #popculturepodcast 
In this post-Halloween episode, Lauren and Lacey trade spooky season for true crime as they discuss the new Netflix documentary on serial killer Aileen Wuornos....Lacey’s long-time “favorite case.” The conversation transitions into how sexism, trauma, and the justice system collided in Wuornos’s trial, from a prosecutor accused of hiding evidence to a judge forced to recuse herself for being “too fair.” They discuss how society’s views of sex work and empathy for victims have evolved, and why Wuornos’s story raises deeper legal and moral questions about accountability, trauma, and the death penalty. Follow and subscribe and never miss an episode of The Lawmas!   #thelawmas #AileenWuornos #Netflix #truecrime #lawmomspodcast 
It’s the Halloween episode of The Lawmas Podcast, and things get spooky! Lauren and Lacey are joined by their producer, Wendi Hill, who shares the eerie story of the ghost that’s made itself at home in her house, from unexplained voices to doors flying open and even a spirit that might have followed her family heirlooms. The conversation moves from ghost stories to personal experiences with the afterlife. Lauren recounts a visit to a shaman that revealed uncanny details about her late mother-in-law, while Lacey opens up about the dreams and visits she’s had from loved ones who’ve passed. This special episode blends the supernatural with lots of reflections, laughter, and a reminder that sometimes the veil between worlds feels closer than we think.
This week on The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey keep Spooky October going with real-life legal cases that cross into the paranormal. From a man who claimed he murdered his landlord while possessed, to a mother who solved her daughter’s death after being “visited” in her dreams, they explore how the justice system handles claims that seem straight out of a horror movie. Lacey also shares a chilling office story involving a toy that turns itself on, and a theory about a friendly spirit that might be visiting. The conversation dives into how far lawyers can go with supernatural defenses, what counts as expert testimony, and why some cold cases are reopened while others stay buried. Tune in for the mix of eerie stories, legal insight, and laughter you expect from The Lawmas Podcast.   #thelawmaspodcast #spookyoctober #legalpodast
This week on The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey wrap up their two-part discussion into Ed Gein, separating fact from fiction and unpacking what the Netflix series got wrong. From misrepresented murders to exaggerated rumors, they walk through the real story behind one of true crime’s most infamous figures. The conversation also explores how mental competency is determined in criminal cases, what “not guilty by reason of insanity” really means, and why those rulings matter today. Along the way, Lacey shares a personal story about falling down the stairs that turns into a real-world lesson on teaching kids how to call for help in an emergency. This episode connects horror, law, and humanity, proving that even the darkest cases raise questions about mental health, justice, and compassion.   #thelawmaspodcast #legalpodast #edgein #spookyoctober
In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey continue their spooky-season series with a look at one of true crime’s most infamous, and misunderstood, figures: Ed Gein. Known as the inspiration for Psycho and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the hosts explore whether he truly fits the definition of a serial killer. Before diving in, Lacey shares a story from a Down Syndrome fundraiser that sparks an honest talk about parenting, advocacy, and knowing when to speak up. Then the conversation turns to Gein’s isolated upbringing, his troubled relationship with his mother, and how his crimes changed horror movies and pop culture forever. This is Part 1 of a two-part deep dive into Ed Gein, the Netflix series, and the legal side of mental competency.
This week on The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey kick off Spooky October by asking a surprising question: if your house is haunted, do you legally have to tell buyers? Inspired by the infamous Amityville Horror case, they explore how a true crime turned ghost story ended up shaping real estate law. Along the way, they tackle Halloween trespassing rules, self-defense and costumes (can you really carry that fake knife as Michael Myers?), and how far “defending your property” can go before the law steps in. The conversation mixes legal analysis with personal stories, from family costumes to unexplained encounters that bring both laughs and chills. If you’ve ever wondered where the courtroom meets the supernatural, this episode has the answers. #thelawmaspodcast #spookyoctober #amityvillehorror #lawmoms 
This week, Lauren and Lacey wrap up “Serial Killer September” with a look at two of South Carolina’s most infamous killers, Todd Kohlhepp and Donald “Pee Wee” Gaskins. From Kohlhepp’s shocking crimes in the Upstate, including the Superbike murders and his disturbing use of a shipping container, to Gaskins’ decades-long spree that earned him the title “the meanest man in America.” Along the way, the hosts explore how gaps in licensing and background checks allowed Kohlhepp to blend into everyday life as a realtor, and how Gaskins’ brutal history defied any single pattern. They also discuss broader issues, like how laws spill across areas of criminal, family, and even estate law, and how public policy struggles to balance safety, rights, and justice.   #thelawmaspodcast #serialkillerseptember #peeweegaskins #toddkohlhepp #lawmoms 
In this episode, Lauren and Lacey dig into the case of the Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo, a man whose crimes spanned burglary, sexual assault, and murder across California in the 1970s and ’80s. They discuss how DNA evidence, once unimaginable in criminal investigations, ultimately linked his crimes together decades later and led to his arrest in 2018. They also discuss the science behind DNA profiling, the ethical concerns of law enforcement accessing genetic data from medical providers and ancestry services, and how law and science don’t always evolve at the same pace. The conversation also turns personal, as the hosts reflect on privacy, public health, and the balance between protecting communities and protecting individual rights. #thelawmaspodcast #laurenandlacey #lawmoms #lawpodcast #goldenstatekiller #josephjamesdeangelo #serieskillerseptember
Lauren and Lacey kick off Serial Killer September with a look into one of the most notorious names in true crime, Ted Bundy. They revisit his cross-country crimes, his shocking prison escapes, and the troubling way his appearance and charm shaped public perception and even courtroom treatment. Along the way, they explore the legal angles: what it meant for Bundy to represent himself, how attorney–client privilege works even in extreme cases, and why fair trials matter even for the worst offenders. The conversation also raises questions about whether Bundy could have operated as long in today’s world of DNA evidence and interstate cooperation, and why the public spectacle of his execution still lingers in cultural memory. What do you think?   #thelawmas #serialkillerseptember #lawmoms #lawpodcast #LaurenandLacey #legalpodcast #tedbundy
Lauren and Lacey kick off their brand-new Serial Killer September series by discussing how investigations into serial crimes have changed over the decades. From the days when police departments rarely shared information across state lines to today’s use of CODIS, DNA databases, and even familial DNA through ancestry websites, the tools for catching killers look dramatically different. The conversation explores both the promise and pitfalls of DNA evidence, how it has freed the innocent, convicted the guilty, and in some cases raised concerns about privacy, contamination, and misuse. They also dig into the psychological side of serial killers, comparing public perceptions of “likable” figures like Ted Bundy to the disturbing patterns seen in cases such as Pee Wee Gaskins, John Wayne Gacy, and South Carolina’s Todd Kohlhepp. The hosts tackle the differences between mass murderers and serial killers, the debate over whether genetics could ever play a role in sentencing, and how cases like the Golden State Killer changed the game with new science. To wrap things up on a lighter note, Lauren and Lacey share their thoughts on Cardi B’s hilarious courtroom moments and what they reveal about how celebrity clients are treated differently on the stand. This episode sets the stage for a month-long dive into infamous serial killers. Next up: Ted Bundy.   #thelawamaspodcast #serialkillerseptember #laurenandlacey #lawmoms #legalpodcast
In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey mix pop culture with legal insight. After a quick story about Lacey’s trip to Atlanta to see basketball star A’ja Wilson, they discuss two trending topics: the Menendez brothers’ parole hearings and Netflix’s new Biggest Loser documentary. Lauren explains why both Eric and Lyle Menendez were denied parole, citing contraband cell phones and questions about remorse. The hosts explore how prison cell phones have fueled nationwide scams and how that plays into parole decisions, while also asking whether the brothers still pose a real threat to society. They then shift to the Biggest Loser documentary, highlighting troubling contracts that pressured contestants to waive legal rights and exposing unsafe health practices that put entertainment above wellbeing. Lauren and Lacey question whether such contracts should be enforceable and imagine how a healthier, more responsible version of the show could work today. Next Up: Serial Killer September and a paranormal lineup for October! It's going to be a fun fall with The Lawmas!   #legalpodcast #thebiggestloser #laurenandlacey #menendezbrothers #thelawmaspodcast 
In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey continue their Infamous Women series with one of the most notorious names in true crime: Aileen Wuornos. They discuss Wuornos’ troubled childhood, her history of violence, and the series of murders that led to her place on death row. Along the way, they explore key legal questions around wills, inheritance, and the complexities of the death penalty. Was Wuornos’ first killing really self-defense? Should the jury have heard about the victim’s violent past? And how does her case compare to others, like Susan Smith? Lauren and Lacey also discuss the rarity of women on death row, how different states handle capital punishment, and why context matters when weighing “heinousness” against public safety. If you’re fascinated by the intersection of law and true crime, this episode will keep you thinking long after it ends. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes every Friday! #TrueCrime #AileenWuornos #DeathPenalty #LawPodcast #LegalAnalysis #TheLawmasPodcast
In this week’s episode, Lauren and Lacey continue their “Infamous Women” series with a case that shocked the 90s, the story of Mary Kay Letourneau. They revisit the headlines, the court case, and the deeply troubling facts of a 30-something teacher who began a sexual relationship with her 12-year-old student, ultimately having two children with him. Lauren and Lacey break down the legal implications, sentencing, and how the justice system treated her compared to how it might have treated a man in the same position. They also dig into how cultural attitudes, then and now, shape public perception of these cases, and why the age and power dynamics make consent impossible. From the courtroom to the lasting impact on the victim’s life, this conversation examines not only the legal side, but also the human cost. The hosts also weigh in on other recent teacher-related headlines, privacy issues, and double standards in punishment. It’s a candid, eye-opening discussion on justice, gender, and the law, and why some cases still make us question how far we’ve really come.
Can you really fraud your way onto Dancing with the Stars? In this week’s episode, Lauren and Lacey discuss Anna Delvey’s white collar crimes, her surprising light sentence, and why she’s still living (and profiting) in the U.S. despite not being a citizen. They also compare The Hunting Wives to real courtroom dynamics, because let’s be honest, we’ve all watched it in secret.  Listen now and tell us: Should someone get rich from committing a crime? #TheLawmasPodcast #AnnaDelvey #WhiteCollarCrime #TrueCrimeTalk #LegalBreakdown #FraudCases #ImmigrationLaw #LawyerLife #TheHuntingWives  
This week, Lauren and Lacey break down the twists and turns of the Karen Read case, from the hung jury to the eventual not-guilty verdict and everything in between. They get into the legal side of things: what a hung jury really means, how third-party guilt works, and whether Read might have a case to get her legal fees or property back. Before that, they kick things off with a quick mention take on the Amy Bradley Netflix doc and the mystery of her disappearance from a cruise ship.  From questionable police conduct to financial fallout for defendants, this episode offers a sharp but approachable look at the real-life impacts of criminal defense cases. If you want them to dive deeper into the Amy Bradley case or suggest another infamous woman to feature, send the Lawmas an email at thelawmaspodcast@gmail.com or DM them on Instagram #thelawmaspodcast #karenreadpodcast #amybradley #lawmoms #hungjuries #karenreadpodcast 
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