The Lawmas Podcast
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Juggling courtrooms and playrooms, legal briefs, and bedtime stories...
Meet Lauren and Lacey, two powerhouse attorneys and moms who are laying down the law on work-life balance. Lauren handles estate planning, while Lacey is a criminal defense attorney. And together, they're The Lawmas!
Join them as they dive into into the chaotic world of running law firms while raising families, where they share war stories from the courtroom and the playground, while offering tips on building a thriving practice without missing soccer games and dance class...
These two prove that moms really can do it all - with a little help from coffee and wine! From estate planning emergencies to criminal defense dilemmas, these legal eagles tackle it all with wit, wisdom, and a whole lot of heart.
So whether you're a working mom, an aspiring attorney, or love a good laugh... Tune in to The Lawmas Podcast. Where justice meets juice boxes!
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Coming soon to YouTube and major podcast platforms!
Meet Lauren and Lacey, two powerhouse attorneys and moms who are laying down the law on work-life balance. Lauren handles estate planning, while Lacey is a criminal defense attorney. And together, they're The Lawmas!
Join them as they dive into into the chaotic world of running law firms while raising families, where they share war stories from the courtroom and the playground, while offering tips on building a thriving practice without missing soccer games and dance class...
These two prove that moms really can do it all - with a little help from coffee and wine! From estate planning emergencies to criminal defense dilemmas, these legal eagles tackle it all with wit, wisdom, and a whole lot of heart.
So whether you're a working mom, an aspiring attorney, or love a good laugh... Tune in to The Lawmas Podcast. Where justice meets juice boxes!
Court is now in session!
Coming soon to YouTube and major podcast platforms!
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey discuss the tension between public opinion and the legal standard of “innocent until proven guilty.” Using current headlines, including discussion surrounding the Epstein files and high-profile allegations, they explore how quickly society forms conclusions before all the facts are known. Lacey shares her perspective as a criminal defense attorney, explaining how prosecutors, media coverage, and social media can influence narratives long before a case reaches trial.
The episode also shifts into two local true-crime stories: a bizarre breach-of-peace case involving a gas station meltdown that led to deportation consequences, and the arrest of a former American Idol contestant charged with his wife’s murder. Through their usual humor and candid debate, Lauren and Lacey discuss how public perception, incomplete information, and snap judgments shape both careers and criminal cases.
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Lauren and Lacey are finally back together for this candid, catch-up episode of The Lawmas Podcast. After a season of personal stress, including health scares, office flooding, therapy check-ins, and family illness.From mental health and family stress to leaning on friends during hard seasons, this episode is an honest reflection on navigating real life while running businesses and raising families.
They also dive into trending topics in the news, including elder abuse scams targeting older adults through AI and impersonation tactics, and a cold case conviction solved decades later through genealogy DNA evidence. As always, the conversation blends law, life, and pop culture, touching on everything from true crime developments to comfort TV shows and concert bucket lists.
In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey breaks down the recent oral arguments in the appeal of the high-profile Alex Murdaugh murder conviction. She walks listeners through what an appeal actually is, what qualifies as an “error of law,” and why appeals focus on judicial mistakes rather than attorney strategy. Lacey unpacks the two major issues raised before the South Carolina Supreme Court: allegations of jury tampering involving the former clerk of court, and whether evidence of Murdaugh's financial crimes was improperly admitted as motive. She explains how concerns about fairness, prejudice versus probative value, and the right to an impartial jury could impact the outcome. With insight from a defense attorney’s perspective, she also discusses what happens next procedurally and what a potential new trial would mean.
In this deeply personal solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey steps away from legal analysis and leans fully into mom life. In recognition of Heart Month, she shares the story of her son Luke, his congenital heart defect diagnosis, heart surgery as an infant, and how early medical intervention changed everything. She reflects on the emotional weight of pregnancy diagnoses, the importance of proper screening, and the gratitude she feels for modern medicine and compassionate providers.
The conversation then turns to Luke’s upcoming birthday and a realization Lacey has had about how her son experiences joy differently. From travel over birthday parties to letting go of expectations around gifts, she opens up about parenting a child with special needs, honoring his preferences, and learning to let him lead. It’s an honest, heartfelt episode about advocacy, acceptance, and redefining what celebration looks like.
In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey dives into what happens when things go wrong in criminal cases and why those mistakes can change outcomes forever. Using some of the most infamous examples in legal history, she explains how errors can occur during investigations, trials, and plea negotiations, and how those mistakes impact both the prosecution and the defense.
From the infamous glove moment in the O.J. Simpson trial to investigative failures in serial killer cases and immunity agreements that backfired, Lacey walks through real-world examples that show how one misstep can alter the course of justice. She also explains key legal concepts like double jeopardy, mistrials, appeals, and post-conviction relief, highlighting why some mistakes can be corrected and others can’t.
The episode offers a candid, behind-the-scenes look at the high stakes of criminal law and the lasting consequences when errors happen inside the courtroom and beyond.
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In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren continues the New Year focus on estate planning by examining what happens when even well-known, well-documented estates go wrong. Using high-profile examples, including James Brown, Jimmy Buffett, and the Menendez brothers, she explains how wills, trusts, executors, and beneficiaries can still end up tangled in decades of litigation, despite proper planning.
Lauren walks through why James Brown’s estate remained tied up for nearly 20 years, how executor misconduct and family disputes drained estate assets, and why having a will doesn’t guarantee a smooth probate process. She also explains how trusts can still lead to lawsuits, and how laws like the slayer statute prevent inheritance even when someone would otherwise be an heir. The episode reinforces a key takeaway: estate planning is essential, but no plan is completely immune from conflict—and thoughtful planning is about minimizing risk, not eliminating it entirely.
In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey talks abut the behind the scenes on what really goes into preparing a criminal case for trial. From highly technical DUI cases involving field sobriety tests, breathalyzer machines, and suppression issues, to credibility-driven “he said, she said” cases, she explains how defense attorneys analyze evidence, build strategy, and prepare witnesses long before stepping into the courtroom.
Lacey also shares the emotional side of trial work, why cases involving innocent clients are often the hardest, how jury decisions can weigh heavily on attorneys, and the mental toll of preparing for high-stakes trials that may fall through at the last minute. It’s an honest look at the pressure, preparation, and responsibility that comes with criminal defense work.
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In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren shifts gears for the new year and talks about one resolution that isn’t flashy, but is incredibly important: getting your estate plan in place. Drawing from real-life examples and her experience as an estate planning attorney in South Carolina, she explains why wills and powers of attorney matter at every age, not just later in life.
Lauren walks through the basics of medical and financial powers of attorney, why spouses still need them, and how failing to plan can leave families stuck in court or facing decisions they never wanted to make. Between candid moments of working-from-home chaos and personal reflections on health, parenting, and the new year, this episode serves as a practical reminder that estate planning is less about paperwork and more about protecting the people you love.
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey reunite to wrap up their Homicide for the Holidays series with a powerful and thought-provoking conversation. After giving updates on binge-worthy shows, cult documentaries, and Disney memories of recent vacations, they turn to a heartbreaking New Year’s Eve murder case involving 19-year-old Valerie Zavala Wilson in California.
The episode walks through the investigation, the role of forensic evidence, and how a 17-year-old suspect was ultimately convicted and sentenced as an adult. From there, the conversation broadens into a deeper legal discussion about juvenile offenders, being tried as adults, parole eligibility, and how the criminal justice system handles age, intent, and future danger to society.
The episode closes with reflection on the emotional weight of covering violent crimes during the holidays and a look ahead to what’s next for the podcast, possibly shifting toward lighter topics in the new year!
In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren continues the Homicide for the Holidays series with one of the most disturbing cases yet, the 1992 Christmas murders in Dayton, Ohio. What began as a group of bored teens and young adults spiraled into a random, brutal killing spree that left six innocent people dead between Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
Lauren walks through the shocking facts of the case, the senseless motives behind the murders, and the complicated legal aftermath, where minors were tried as adults, sentencing differed by age, and the death penalty was ultimately carried out for one defendant. She also reflects on the emotional toll of covering cases like this during the holidays, sharing a candid look at personal stress, family health scares, and the importance of slowing down and giving ourselves grace during an overwhelming season.
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In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey hosts this episode solo during one of the busiest times of the year for working moms in law. Between court schedules, school obligations, and holiday chaos, she shares an honest look at what it’s really like practicing law during the holidays, kids in the background and all!
Continuing the Homicide for the Holidays series, Lacey breaks down a haunting Florida case involving a married couple murdered just days after Christmas, a surviving toddler, and a crime rooted in jealousy, betrayal, and obsession. She walks listeners through the investigation, the twists that led to a mistrial and eventual conviction, and the heartbreaking reality left behind for a child who lost both parents. The episode closes with a reminder to extend grace and support to working moms, especially during the holiday season when the mental load is often invisible but overwhelming.
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey continue their Homicide for the Holidays series with two devastating family-centered cases that unfolded around Christmas. Before they discuss homicide, they walk through a complex legal question involving immigration, criminal charges, and victims’ rights, asking whether deportation should wait until a criminal case is resolved when victims are involved.
The episode then turns deeply tragic. One case out of Washington details a brutal Christmas Eve family annihilation driven by greed, where parents, a brother, and two young children were murdered over a dispute involving rent and money. The second case, out of Pennsylvania, centers on a mother and her daughters murdered just days before Christmas, a surviving infant, and a father whose crimes were rooted in years of abuse and an impending trial.
Through legal insight and thoughtful discussion, Lauren and Lacey examine motive, prosecution decisions, the cost of justice, and how often holiday violence is tied to family dynamics rather than strangers, making these cases especially haunting.
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It’s the most wonderful and chilling time of the year on The Lawmas Podcast! Lauren and Lacey kick off their Holiday Homicide Series, mixing Christmas lights with true crime darkness. They start with a horrifying Christmas Eve massacre in California, where a man dressed as Santa turned a family celebration into tragedy, and follow it with a shocking New Year’s Eve story from Colorado involving teenage killers and a cult-like leader.
Between eerie details, legal insights, and late-night laughs in pajamas, this episode shows how quickly holiday cheer can turn to chaos and why family law attorneys might have one of the most dangerous jobs out there.
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In this laid-back, laughter-filled episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey take a break from true crime to talk about real life, real stress, and the chaos of being working moms during the holidays. From favorite musicals and nostalgic TV re-watches (hello, Gilmore Girls and One Tree Hill) to court deadlines, snoring husbands, and the fine line between saving money and actually enjoying life, this episode is part vent session, part reminder to slow down and live in the moment.
They share personal stories about work, family, loss, and gratitude, reminding listeners that it’s okay to be overwhelmed, it’s okay to spend on memories, and it’s okay to laugh through the exhaustion.
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey tackle two very real, but very different topics.
They start with a tough conversation about caring for aging parents and the harsh realities of elder care laws, costs, and responsibilities. From guardianships and Medicaid to what happens when loved ones can no longer care for themselves, they talk through what families need to know, and why the system often fails middle-class Americans.
Then... they switch gears to the headlines surrounding recent incidents at major theme parks like Disney and Universal. The hosts discuss where liability really falls when accidents happen, what those waiver agreements mean when you buy a ticket, and how misinformation can spread faster than the truth online. It’s a mix of real-life law, compassion, and the practical side of navigating complex systems, with a touch of Lawmas humor, of course.
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In this episode, Lauren and Lacey mix pop culture with a dose of legal reality!
The episode starts with a reminder about kindness and mental health as the holidays approach, reflecting on how stress and silent struggles can affect anyone, even attorneys. The conversation turns to the legal headlines: Kim Kardashian’s latest setback on the California bar exam, and South Carolina politics, where claims about Attorney General Alan Wilson spark a discussion on misinformation and how the justice system really works.
From bond hearings to sentencing, the hosts break down what’s fact versus fiction and remind listeners why understanding the law matters before sharing, or believing, what’s online.
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In this post-Halloween episode, Lauren and Lacey trade spooky season for true crime as they discuss the new Netflix documentary on serial killer Aileen Wuornos....Lacey’s long-time “favorite case.”
The conversation transitions into how sexism, trauma, and the justice system collided in Wuornos’s trial, from a prosecutor accused of hiding evidence to a judge forced to recuse herself for being “too fair.” They discuss how society’s views of sex work and empathy for victims have evolved, and why Wuornos’s story raises deeper legal and moral questions about accountability, trauma, and the death penalty.
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It’s the Halloween episode of The Lawmas Podcast, and things get spooky! Lauren and Lacey are joined by their producer, Wendi Hill, who shares the eerie story of the ghost that’s made itself at home in her house, from unexplained voices to doors flying open and even a spirit that might have followed her family heirlooms.
The conversation moves from ghost stories to personal experiences with the afterlife. Lauren recounts a visit to a shaman that revealed uncanny details about her late mother-in-law, while Lacey opens up about the dreams and visits she’s had from loved ones who’ve passed.
This special episode blends the supernatural with lots of reflections, laughter, and a reminder that sometimes the veil between worlds feels closer than we think.
This week on The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey keep Spooky October going with real-life legal cases that cross into the paranormal. From a man who claimed he murdered his landlord while possessed, to a mother who solved her daughter’s death after being “visited” in her dreams, they explore how the justice system handles claims that seem straight out of a horror movie.
Lacey also shares a chilling office story involving a toy that turns itself on, and a theory about a friendly spirit that might be visiting. The conversation dives into how far lawyers can go with supernatural defenses, what counts as expert testimony, and why some cold cases are reopened while others stay buried.
Tune in for the mix of eerie stories, legal insight, and laughter you expect from The Lawmas Podcast.
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This week on The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey wrap up their two-part discussion into Ed Gein, separating fact from fiction and unpacking what the Netflix series got wrong. From misrepresented murders to exaggerated rumors, they walk through the real story behind one of true crime’s most infamous figures.
The conversation also explores how mental competency is determined in criminal cases, what “not guilty by reason of insanity” really means, and why those rulings matter today. Along the way, Lacey shares a personal story about falling down the stairs that turns into a real-world lesson on teaching kids how to call for help in an emergency.
This episode connects horror, law, and humanity, proving that even the darkest cases raise questions about mental health, justice, and compassion.
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