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The Lawmas Podcast
Author: Lauren & Lacey
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Juggling courtrooms and playrooms, legal briefs, and bedtime stories...
Meet Lauren and Lacey, two powerhouse attorneys and moms who are laying down the law on work-life balance. Lauren handles estate planning, while Lacey is a criminal defense attorney. And together, they're The Lawmas!
Join them as they dive into into the chaotic world of running law firms while raising families, where they share war stories from the courtroom and the playground, while offering tips on building a thriving practice without missing soccer games and dance class...
These two prove that moms really can do it all - with a little help from coffee and wine! From estate planning emergencies to criminal defense dilemmas, these legal eagles tackle it all with wit, wisdom, and a whole lot of heart.
So whether you're a working mom, an aspiring attorney, or love a good laugh... Tune in to The Lawmas Podcast. Where justice meets juice boxes!
Court is now in session!
Coming soon to YouTube and major podcast platforms!
Meet Lauren and Lacey, two powerhouse attorneys and moms who are laying down the law on work-life balance. Lauren handles estate planning, while Lacey is a criminal defense attorney. And together, they're The Lawmas!
Join them as they dive into into the chaotic world of running law firms while raising families, where they share war stories from the courtroom and the playground, while offering tips on building a thriving practice without missing soccer games and dance class...
These two prove that moms really can do it all - with a little help from coffee and wine! From estate planning emergencies to criminal defense dilemmas, these legal eagles tackle it all with wit, wisdom, and a whole lot of heart.
So whether you're a working mom, an aspiring attorney, or love a good laugh... Tune in to The Lawmas Podcast. Where justice meets juice boxes!
Court is now in session!
Coming soon to YouTube and major podcast platforms!
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In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren continues the New Year focus on estate planning by examining what happens when even well-known, well-documented estates go wrong. Using high-profile examples, including James Brown, Jimmy Buffett, and the Menendez brothers, she explains how wills, trusts, executors, and beneficiaries can still end up tangled in decades of litigation, despite proper planning.
Lauren walks through why James Brown’s estate remained tied up for nearly 20 years, how executor misconduct and family disputes drained estate assets, and why having a will doesn’t guarantee a smooth probate process. She also explains how trusts can still lead to lawsuits, and how laws like the slayer statute prevent inheritance even when someone would otherwise be an heir. The episode reinforces a key takeaway: estate planning is essential, but no plan is completely immune from conflict—and thoughtful planning is about minimizing risk, not eliminating it entirely.
In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey talks abut the behind the scenes on what really goes into preparing a criminal case for trial. From highly technical DUI cases involving field sobriety tests, breathalyzer machines, and suppression issues, to credibility-driven “he said, she said” cases, she explains how defense attorneys analyze evidence, build strategy, and prepare witnesses long before stepping into the courtroom.
Lacey also shares the emotional side of trial work, why cases involving innocent clients are often the hardest, how jury decisions can weigh heavily on attorneys, and the mental toll of preparing for high-stakes trials that may fall through at the last minute. It’s an honest look at the pressure, preparation, and responsibility that comes with criminal defense work.
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In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren shifts gears for the new year and talks about one resolution that isn’t flashy, but is incredibly important: getting your estate plan in place. Drawing from real-life examples and her experience as an estate planning attorney in South Carolina, she explains why wills and powers of attorney matter at every age, not just later in life.
Lauren walks through the basics of medical and financial powers of attorney, why spouses still need them, and how failing to plan can leave families stuck in court or facing decisions they never wanted to make. Between candid moments of working-from-home chaos and personal reflections on health, parenting, and the new year, this episode serves as a practical reminder that estate planning is less about paperwork and more about protecting the people you love.
Get your estate plan in place!
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey reunite to wrap up their Homicide for the Holidays series with a powerful and thought-provoking conversation. After giving updates on binge-worthy shows, cult documentaries, and Disney memories of recent vacations, they turn to a heartbreaking New Year’s Eve murder case involving 19-year-old Valerie Zavala Wilson in California.
The episode walks through the investigation, the role of forensic evidence, and how a 17-year-old suspect was ultimately convicted and sentenced as an adult. From there, the conversation broadens into a deeper legal discussion about juvenile offenders, being tried as adults, parole eligibility, and how the criminal justice system handles age, intent, and future danger to society.
The episode closes with reflection on the emotional weight of covering violent crimes during the holidays and a look ahead to what’s next for the podcast, possibly shifting toward lighter topics in the new year!
In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren continues the Homicide for the Holidays series with one of the most disturbing cases yet, the 1992 Christmas murders in Dayton, Ohio. What began as a group of bored teens and young adults spiraled into a random, brutal killing spree that left six innocent people dead between Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
Lauren walks through the shocking facts of the case, the senseless motives behind the murders, and the complicated legal aftermath, where minors were tried as adults, sentencing differed by age, and the death penalty was ultimately carried out for one defendant. She also reflects on the emotional toll of covering cases like this during the holidays, sharing a candid look at personal stress, family health scares, and the importance of slowing down and giving ourselves grace during an overwhelming season.
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In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey hosts this episode solo during one of the busiest times of the year for working moms in law. Between court schedules, school obligations, and holiday chaos, she shares an honest look at what it’s really like practicing law during the holidays, kids in the background and all!
Continuing the Homicide for the Holidays series, Lacey breaks down a haunting Florida case involving a married couple murdered just days after Christmas, a surviving toddler, and a crime rooted in jealousy, betrayal, and obsession. She walks listeners through the investigation, the twists that led to a mistrial and eventual conviction, and the heartbreaking reality left behind for a child who lost both parents. The episode closes with a reminder to extend grace and support to working moms, especially during the holiday season when the mental load is often invisible but overwhelming.
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey continue their Homicide for the Holidays series with two devastating family-centered cases that unfolded around Christmas. Before they discuss homicide, they walk through a complex legal question involving immigration, criminal charges, and victims’ rights, asking whether deportation should wait until a criminal case is resolved when victims are involved.
The episode then turns deeply tragic. One case out of Washington details a brutal Christmas Eve family annihilation driven by greed, where parents, a brother, and two young children were murdered over a dispute involving rent and money. The second case, out of Pennsylvania, centers on a mother and her daughters murdered just days before Christmas, a surviving infant, and a father whose crimes were rooted in years of abuse and an impending trial.
Through legal insight and thoughtful discussion, Lauren and Lacey examine motive, prosecution decisions, the cost of justice, and how often holiday violence is tied to family dynamics rather than strangers, making these cases especially haunting.
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It’s the most wonderful and chilling time of the year on The Lawmas Podcast! Lauren and Lacey kick off their Holiday Homicide Series, mixing Christmas lights with true crime darkness. They start with a horrifying Christmas Eve massacre in California, where a man dressed as Santa turned a family celebration into tragedy, and follow it with a shocking New Year’s Eve story from Colorado involving teenage killers and a cult-like leader.
Between eerie details, legal insights, and late-night laughs in pajamas, this episode shows how quickly holiday cheer can turn to chaos and why family law attorneys might have one of the most dangerous jobs out there.
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In this laid-back, laughter-filled episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey take a break from true crime to talk about real life, real stress, and the chaos of being working moms during the holidays. From favorite musicals and nostalgic TV re-watches (hello, Gilmore Girls and One Tree Hill) to court deadlines, snoring husbands, and the fine line between saving money and actually enjoying life, this episode is part vent session, part reminder to slow down and live in the moment.
They share personal stories about work, family, loss, and gratitude, reminding listeners that it’s okay to be overwhelmed, it’s okay to spend on memories, and it’s okay to laugh through the exhaustion.
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey tackle two very real, but very different topics.
They start with a tough conversation about caring for aging parents and the harsh realities of elder care laws, costs, and responsibilities. From guardianships and Medicaid to what happens when loved ones can no longer care for themselves, they talk through what families need to know, and why the system often fails middle-class Americans.
Then... they switch gears to the headlines surrounding recent incidents at major theme parks like Disney and Universal. The hosts discuss where liability really falls when accidents happen, what those waiver agreements mean when you buy a ticket, and how misinformation can spread faster than the truth online. It’s a mix of real-life law, compassion, and the practical side of navigating complex systems, with a touch of Lawmas humor, of course.
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In this episode, Lauren and Lacey mix pop culture with a dose of legal reality!
The episode starts with a reminder about kindness and mental health as the holidays approach, reflecting on how stress and silent struggles can affect anyone, even attorneys. The conversation turns to the legal headlines: Kim Kardashian’s latest setback on the California bar exam, and South Carolina politics, where claims about Attorney General Alan Wilson spark a discussion on misinformation and how the justice system really works.
From bond hearings to sentencing, the hosts break down what’s fact versus fiction and remind listeners why understanding the law matters before sharing, or believing, what’s online.
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In this post-Halloween episode, Lauren and Lacey trade spooky season for true crime as they discuss the new Netflix documentary on serial killer Aileen Wuornos....Lacey’s long-time “favorite case.”
The conversation transitions into how sexism, trauma, and the justice system collided in Wuornos’s trial, from a prosecutor accused of hiding evidence to a judge forced to recuse herself for being “too fair.” They discuss how society’s views of sex work and empathy for victims have evolved, and why Wuornos’s story raises deeper legal and moral questions about accountability, trauma, and the death penalty.
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It’s the Halloween episode of The Lawmas Podcast, and things get spooky! Lauren and Lacey are joined by their producer, Wendi Hill, who shares the eerie story of the ghost that’s made itself at home in her house, from unexplained voices to doors flying open and even a spirit that might have followed her family heirlooms.
The conversation moves from ghost stories to personal experiences with the afterlife. Lauren recounts a visit to a shaman that revealed uncanny details about her late mother-in-law, while Lacey opens up about the dreams and visits she’s had from loved ones who’ve passed.
This special episode blends the supernatural with lots of reflections, laughter, and a reminder that sometimes the veil between worlds feels closer than we think.
This week on The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey keep Spooky October going with real-life legal cases that cross into the paranormal. From a man who claimed he murdered his landlord while possessed, to a mother who solved her daughter’s death after being “visited” in her dreams, they explore how the justice system handles claims that seem straight out of a horror movie.
Lacey also shares a chilling office story involving a toy that turns itself on, and a theory about a friendly spirit that might be visiting. The conversation dives into how far lawyers can go with supernatural defenses, what counts as expert testimony, and why some cold cases are reopened while others stay buried.
Tune in for the mix of eerie stories, legal insight, and laughter you expect from The Lawmas Podcast.
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This week on The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey wrap up their two-part discussion into Ed Gein, separating fact from fiction and unpacking what the Netflix series got wrong. From misrepresented murders to exaggerated rumors, they walk through the real story behind one of true crime’s most infamous figures.
The conversation also explores how mental competency is determined in criminal cases, what “not guilty by reason of insanity” really means, and why those rulings matter today. Along the way, Lacey shares a personal story about falling down the stairs that turns into a real-world lesson on teaching kids how to call for help in an emergency.
This episode connects horror, law, and humanity, proving that even the darkest cases raise questions about mental health, justice, and compassion.
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In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey continue their spooky-season series with a look at one of true crime’s most infamous, and misunderstood, figures: Ed Gein. Known as the inspiration for Psycho and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the hosts explore whether he truly fits the definition of a serial killer.
Before diving in, Lacey shares a story from a Down Syndrome fundraiser that sparks an honest talk about parenting, advocacy, and knowing when to speak up.
Then the conversation turns to Gein’s isolated upbringing, his troubled relationship with his mother, and how his crimes changed horror movies and pop culture forever.
This is Part 1 of a two-part deep dive into Ed Gein, the Netflix series, and the legal side of mental competency.
This week on The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey kick off Spooky October by asking a surprising question: if your house is haunted, do you legally have to tell buyers? Inspired by the infamous Amityville Horror case, they explore how a true crime turned ghost story ended up shaping real estate law.
Along the way, they tackle Halloween trespassing rules, self-defense and costumes (can you really carry that fake knife as Michael Myers?), and how far “defending your property” can go before the law steps in. The conversation mixes legal analysis with personal stories, from family costumes to unexplained encounters that bring both laughs and chills.
If you’ve ever wondered where the courtroom meets the supernatural, this episode has the answers.
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This week, Lauren and Lacey wrap up “Serial Killer September” with a look at two of South Carolina’s most infamous killers, Todd Kohlhepp and Donald “Pee Wee” Gaskins.
From Kohlhepp’s shocking crimes in the Upstate, including the Superbike murders and his disturbing use of a shipping container, to Gaskins’ decades-long spree that earned him the title “the meanest man in America.” Along the way, the hosts explore how gaps in licensing and background checks allowed Kohlhepp to blend into everyday life as a realtor, and how Gaskins’ brutal history defied any single pattern. They also discuss broader issues, like how laws spill across areas of criminal, family, and even estate law, and how public policy struggles to balance safety, rights, and justice.
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In this episode, Lauren and Lacey dig into the case of the Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo, a man whose crimes spanned burglary, sexual assault, and murder across California in the 1970s and ’80s.
They discuss how DNA evidence, once unimaginable in criminal investigations, ultimately linked his crimes together decades later and led to his arrest in 2018. They also discuss the science behind DNA profiling, the ethical concerns of law enforcement accessing genetic data from medical providers and ancestry services, and how law and science don’t always evolve at the same pace. The conversation also turns personal, as the hosts reflect on privacy, public health, and the balance between protecting communities and protecting individual rights.
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Lauren and Lacey kick off Serial Killer September with a look into one of the most notorious names in true crime, Ted Bundy. They revisit his cross-country crimes, his shocking prison escapes, and the troubling way his appearance and charm shaped public perception and even courtroom treatment. Along the way, they explore the legal angles: what it meant for Bundy to represent himself, how attorney–client privilege works even in extreme cases, and why fair trials matter even for the worst offenders.
The conversation also raises questions about whether Bundy could have operated as long in today’s world of DNA evidence and interstate cooperation, and why the public spectacle of his execution still lingers in cultural memory. What do you think?
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