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Author: Beverly Gray & Jonas Swartz

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In the wild west of abortion bans and restrictions, patients, families, and their doctors are being treated like outlaws. OB-Gyns and abortion care providers Bev and Jonas embrace the American tradition of fighting injustice by sharing their direct line to what’s actually happening in our homes and medical offices. 


Each episode’s powerful stories, experts, and resources help us grasp the aftermath of outlawing healthcare and how to talk about it with the people you know. Even with Uncle Bob. Especially with Uncle Bob.


Brought to you by Dr. Beverly Gray, Dr. Jonas Swartz, produced by Stevie Manning.

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Behind the bans and restrictions on abortion and trans healthcare is a desire to control bodily autonomy and enforce rigid gender roles. With colleagues who provide care to transgender patients being doxxed and threatened perhaps more than abortion care providers right now, Bev and Jonas sought the insight of the ACLU’s Chase Strangio, the first openly trans lawyer to argue in front of the Supreme Court. Chase illuminates our shared struggle, reminds us of the history of queer joy in the face...
You’ve probably heard podcaster and radio star Hillary Frank tell a story on This American Life or her podcast The Longest Shortest Time. But none quite like this one. Just in time for spooky season, Bev and Jonas talk to Frank about her new audiobook, Wed Locked, a thriller built on the pressures of women to smile through their pain. She talks to Bev and Jonas about the dynamics between couples in choosing reproductive healthcare, and the dangers of simply staying strong and powering through...
Despite what it feels like when social media serves up an expensive cure-all for an ever growing list of symptoms, menopause shouldn’t be a secret to be discovered while doomscrolling in bed. Omisade Burney-Scott, Founder of the Black Girls Guide to Surviving Menopause, uses the power of narrative to envision a world where people are never alone on their journey: where your doctor, your friends, your family, and community awareness all play an important role. Bev and Jonas’s conversation with...
Lawyer and author Jennifer Weiss-Wolf describes the experience of menopause as entering her “no f%#ks left to give era” and embracing the power many feel in this stage of life. As a public policy expert on reproductive health, she testified at the first congressional hearing dedicated to menopause in Washington, DC on September 16th. Bev and Jonas get the scoop on how she builds support for new legislation from woefully-misinformed congresspeople with patience and pragmatism. Her new book “Wh...
Reproductive health care touches multiple decades and events in a patient’s lifetime. So why not get care from a provider who was there when you got your first period, sprained your ankle in college sports, or was there when you gave birth? Bev and Jonas talk with the amazing Dr. Robin Wallace about providing abortions as a family physician and why more medical specialties should do the same. Based on years practicing in multiple states before and after Dobbs, she helps untangle the complex w...
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