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Open Market
Open Market
Author: Joe Zappa & Eric Franchi
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Open Market is a podcast about building companies in the advertising industry. This is not another news podcast. Rather, hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa dive into the stories of successful companies to help listeners understand how to replicate that success. Guests such as Brian O'Kelley, Jonah Goodhart, and the Vanderhooks join to share their advice.
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Want adtech to share your market map? Put someone’s logo on it. Want comments? Leave someone’s logo off.
Eric Franchi of Aperiam Ventures tells Joe Zappa of Sharp Pen Media how a pattern in startup pitches became the Unified Media Platform map. They get into who helped name the category, why Eric skipped the trade-press exclusive, and what it takes to go “Gen X viral.”
Plus, Joe makes the case for paying Manhattan rent, Eric asks whether Joe actually enjoys sales, and the two compare notes on when to bring up price with a prospect.
What happens when a platform built around paid subscriptions brings brands into the mix?
Dan Robbins returns to Open Market to explain how he’s helping build Substack’s brand business. Dan joins Joe and Eric to unpack sponsored post unlocks, brand-funded subscription upgrades, and curated mastheads, along with the challenge of measuring partnerships built for depth.
They discuss creator control, the risk of commoditizing premium media, and why the best sponsorships should help ambitious work happen.
Plus: Joe takes the conversation in a direction involving geese that nobody could have prepared for.
Everyone in ad tech is suddenly “agentic.” What actually changes when AI starts buying the media?
Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi welcome Adgentek Co-Founder & CEO Frank Sinton and Co-Founder & President Paul Harrison to debate what comes after programmatic.
Having built Beachfront and Simpli.fi, respectively, Frank and Paul know the infrastructure they’re now trying to rethink. They explain why they see CTV as an early opportunity for agentic buying, how agents could reduce layers of intermediaries, and why a chatbot interface alone doesn’t transform an advertising business.
Paul makes a bold prediction: real-time bidding will eventually be replaced. The group explores what that could mean for DSPs, publishers, agencies, and small businesses.
Plus: Eric defends the Unified Media Platform acronym, Joe becomes “in-person curious,” and everyone considers whether Advertising Week needs an agentic rebrand.
The slop has developed taste. We’re all processing this.
Steven Liss and Michael Bishop join Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi to discuss AI creative that people might actually want to watch.
Mediaocean’s Bill Wise and Guy Kuperman join Joe and Eric to discuss the launch of AI Ventures. Building an AI product is getting easier. Finding customers, earning trust and making it work across adtech? Still hard. They explain how Mediaocean plans to help founders and why Bill thinks plumbing is sexy.



