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Insights and interviews at the intersection of consumer lending, marketing, and technology. Hosted by Carlos Caro, co-founder at The Free Toaster and Managing Partner at New Market Growth, a growth agency for consumer lenders.
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Carlos expands on coverage from this week's Newsletter:
https://www.thefreetoaster.com/p/5-things-marketers-should-draw-from-5c8
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Are you an affiliate marketing leader at a consumer lender or publisher!?
If so, mark your calendars.
Following the success of our Summit in San Francisco on September 23rd, The Free Toaster team is coming back with an NYC Edition.
April 7th, 2027.
You won't want to miss it.
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The Free Toaster Newsletter ships every Wednesday at www.thefreetoaster.com, curating the biggest stories at the intersection of consumer lending, marketing, and technology.
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New Market Growth (Carlos’ agency)
NMG focuses on building affiliate marketing programs for consumer lenders.
www.newmarketgrowth.com
Fintel Connect
Drive thousands of new accounts and billions in deposits with the only partner marketing solution built for fintech and banking – your all-in-one affiliate platform, partner network, agency, and marketing compliance engine.
You can find the report mentioned on today's show here:
https://resources.fintelconnect.com/2026-ai-search-visibility-for-financial-services?utm_campaign=52297579-2026%20LLM%20Report&utm_source=thefreetoaster&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=podcast
Bulldog Media Group:
Bulldog Media Group is a leading performance marketing company that specializes in online customer acquisition for clients in the financial services industry. Since 2000, they have focused on financial services digital marketing as their core niche.
https://www.bulldogmediagroup.com/
Spinwheel:
Reduce friction in your lending application with just two fields—phone number and birthdate. Spinwheel’s APIs boost application rates by 20-30% while also providing real-time credit data and seamless payment processing. Want to see it in action? Connect with their Head of Growth for a demo!
https://spinwheel.io/partner/?utm_source=freetoaster&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=oct
Truist is selling LightStream’s personal loan book to Carlyle and has stopped taking new applications. Nick and Carlos bring in Gaurav Agarwal, former Chief Credit Officer at Happy Money, to discuss the transaction.
In this episode
LightStream’s history
How Gaurav estimates the deal math: about 93.5 cents on the dollar for a $7.7B book, 3% to 3.5% annual losses, and a 2-year duration
Why that comes out to roughly a 10% unlevered return before servicing, and why that’s a rich deal for Carlyle
Why Truist wanted out: freeing up about $850M in CET1 capital for fee-generating businesses
Who else probably bid, and why speed and relationships mattered
What lenders and publishers in personal loans should take from the deal
Why rising rates matter more than this sale for credit boxes
How much of the $50K to $100K super prime segment LightStream likely held
Check out the Newsletter Edition:
https://www.thefreetoaster.com/p/transunion-puts-bankrates-lender
*****
Are you an affiliate marketing leader at a consumer lender or publisher!?
If so, mark your calendars.
Following the success of our Summit in San Francisco on September 23rd, The Free Toaster team is coming back with an NYC Edition.
April 7th, 2027.
You won't want to miss it.
*****
Sign Up For Our Newsletter
The Free Toaster Newsletter ships every Wednesday at www.thefreetoaster.com, curating the biggest stories at the intersection of consumer lending, marketing, and technology.
******
Please Support Our Sponsors!
Fintel Connect
Drive thousands of new accounts and billions in deposits with the only partner marketing solution built for fintech and banking – your all-in-one affiliate platform, partner network, agency, and marketing compliance engine.
You can find the report mentioned on today's show here:
https://resources.fintelconnect.com/2026-ai-search-visibility-for-financial-services?utm_campaign=52297579-2026%20LLM%20Report&utm_source=thefreetoaster&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=podcast
Bulldog Media Group:
Bulldog Media Group is a leading performance marketing company that specializes in online customer acquisition for clients in the financial services industry. Since 2000, they have focused on financial services digital marketing as their core niche.
https://www.bulldogmediagroup.com/
Spinwheel:
Reduce friction in your lending application with just two fields—phone number and birthdate. Spinwheel’s APIs boost application rates by 20-30% while also providing real-time credit data and seamless payment processing. Want to see it in action? Connect with their Head of Growth for a demo!
https://spinwheel.io/partner/?utm_source=freetoaster&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=oct
New Market Growth (Carlos’ agency)
NMG focuses on building affiliate marketing programs for consumer lenders.
www.newmarketgrowth.com
Carlos & Nick discuss Experian's launch of a cash flow bureau. Expanding on coverage from this week's Newsletter (Oct 14 2026).
https://www.thefreetoaster.com/p/experian-launches-a-cash-flow-bureau
*****
Are you an affiliate marketing leader at a consumer lender or publisher!?
If so, mark your calendars.
Following the success of our Summit in San Francisco on September 23rd, The Free Toaster team is coming back with an NYC Edition.
April 7th, 2027.
You won't want to miss it.
*****
Sign Up For Our Newsletter
The Free Toaster Newsletter ships every Wednesday at www.thefreetoaster.com, curating the biggest stories at the intersection of consumer lending, marketing, and technology.
******
Please Support Our Sponsors!
Fintel Connect
Drive thousands of new accounts and billions in deposits with the only partner marketing solution built for fintech and banking – your all-in-one affiliate platform, partner network, agency, and marketing compliance engine.
https://partner.fintelconnect.com/get-to-know-fintel-connect?utm_campaign=13897733-2025%20Partners&utm_source=The%20Free%20Toaster&utm_medium=podcast
Bulldog Media Group:
Bulldog Media Group is a leading performance marketing company that specializes in online customer acquisition for clients in the financial services industry. Since 2000, they have focused on financial services digital marketing as their core niche.
https://www.bulldogmediagroup.com/
Spinwheel:
Reduce friction in your lending application with just two fields—phone number and birthdate. Spinwheel’s APIs boost application rates by 20-30% while also providing real-time credit data and seamless payment processing. Want to see it in action? Connect with their Head of Growth for a demo!
https://spinwheel.io/partner/?utm_source=freetoaster&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=oct
New Market Growth (Carlos’ agency)
NMG focuses on building affiliate marketing programs for consumer lenders.
www.newmarketgrowth.com
John Henson of Henson Legal is back for his 2nd time on The Free Toaster Podcast.
We start with a recent 7th Circuit TCPA case. 2 Allstate agents hired a live-transfer vendor, Transfer Kings, that wasn't on Allstate's approved list. When the lawsuit landed, Allstate investigated, confirmed the vendor was never approved, and barred every agency from using it. That quick response is what kept Allstate from being held vicariously liable.
Then we get into "quantum finance," where you tell an LLM what you need and the loan or card just shows up. John explains why lenders are hesitant to advertise inside ChatGPT and Claude, and why it feels a lot like the YouTube brand safety mess from years ago.
We close on growth. John breaks down how his practice wins clients and why he thinks showing up in AI search is mostly old-school SEO.
In this episode
PART 1
How Allstate avoided ratifying a vendor's bad calls
What to ask a downstream partner after a TCPA suit lands
Why the death of the keyword makes generative ads risky for lenders
Stale offers and brand safety in LLM answers
PART 2
John's growing AI voice practice (15 platform clients and counting)
Why a sharper LinkedIn headline beat chasing viral posts
Clients who found John through ChatGPT and Claude
*****
Sign Up For Our Newsletter
The Free Toaster Newsletter ships every Wednesday at www.thefreetoaster.com, curating the biggest stories at the intersection of consumer lending, marketing, and technology.
******
Support Our Content By Supporting Our Sponsors:
Bulldog Media Group:
Bulldog Media Group is a leading performance marketing company that specializes in online customer acquisition for clients in the financial services industry. Since 2000, they have focused on financial services digital marketing as their core niche.
https://www.bulldogmediagroup.com/
Fintel Connect
Drive thousands of new accounts and billions in deposits with the only partner marketing solution built for fintech and banking – your all-in-one affiliate platform, partner network, agency, and marketing compliance engine.
https://partner.fintelconnect.com/get-to-know-fintel-connect?utm_campaign=13897733-2025%20Partners&utm_source=The%20Free%20Toaster&utm_medium=podcast
Spinwheel:
Reduce friction in your lending application with just two fields—phone number and birthdate. Spinwheel’s APIs boost application rates by 20-30% while also providing real-time credit data and seamless payment processing. Want to see it in action? Connect with their Head of Growth for a demo!
https://spinwheel.io/partner/?utm_source=freetoaster&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=aug
New Market Growth (Carlos’ agency)
NMG focuses on building affiliate marketing programs for consumer lenders.
www.newmarketgrowth.com
Today we sit with James Brandon, Head Of Product at Prism Data and David Friermor, Director Of Product Management at Engine by Gen.
Together, they share their newly announced product partnership that helps lenders access cash flow underwriting data at the marketing stage.
If you were at The Affiliate Marketing Summit for Lenders and Publishers in SF on September 23rd, 2026, you heard the announcement live.
In today's episode, you'll get an inside look at how it works from the leaders who built it.



