Ill Conceived

Over the course of the past decade or so, South Korea has become a country where men and women occupy completely different political perspectives and landscapes. It's also one of the countries with the lowest fertility rates in the world. This week, June and Josh look at how South Korea's history of patriarchy and male conscription have collided with a restive and extremely online female populace to create a massive breakdown in gender relations. ***WANT MORE ILL CONCEIVED? Every other week, we release B-side supplements to the main episodes where we read your e-mail responses and discuss things further. We also occasionally release other stuff, like this week's dramatic reading of part 2 of the Zootopia abortion comic. Come check us out at Patreon.com/illconceived!*** ***WE WANT YOUR THOUGHTS FOR THE WORLD FAMOUS MAILBAG! Send an email with feedback about this week's episode to [email protected]*** EPISODE ART: Yoon Suk Yeol, the 13th president of South Korea. Yoon ran for president in 2022, winning an overwhelming share of the young male vote on an anti-feminist campaign that heavily emphasized young men's grievances. In 2024, with his popularity declining, Yoon attempted to self-coup by declaring martial law, leading the National Assembly to pass emergency impeachment and removal measures. In 2026 he was sentenced to life imprisonment. LINKS: Josh's episode of Informed Attraction about Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 and The Last of Us AUDIO CLIPS: 39:04 – Michael Knowles and Katie Miller discussing how women now outnumber men in the American workforce on The Katie Miller Podcast SOURCES: National Geographic, Korea, and the 38th Parallel Country Studies: South Korea EQUAL EMPLOYMENT ACT The role of social solidarity in the rise and decline of the South Korean student movement in the 1970–1990s Why South Korea’s young men are turning conservative South Korea’s misogyny problem A new global gender divide is emerging Gender politics and right-wing politics clash in South Korea Megalia: Feminists of South Korea 4B movement Understanding antifeminist backlash in the South Korean context: Remnants of militarism and patriarchy 'Because women aren't wearing bikinis'? Gaming industry faces renewed 'feminism verification' controversy 'I got death threats when men thought I put feminist gesture in video game' The Fight Over Gender Equality in South Korea Anti-Gender Politics, Economic Insecurity, and Right-Wing Populism: The Rise of Modern Sexism among Young Men in South Korea Random murder in the middle of Gangnam Station: 'Women ignored me' "Not a 'random' crime, but a 'misogyny' crime"… Women in their 20s stage protest performance, lying on the ground Labor force by gender | South Korea | Male Boycotting Men? How the 4B Feminist Rebellion is Taking on Patriarchy What is South Korea's 4B movement and could it take off in the West? The Necessary Paradigm Shift for South Korea’s Ultra-Low Fertility I’ve Covered Women in the Workplace for 15 Years. Something Alarming Is Happening. Blowback Podcast: S3 Episode 1 - “Stop Me Before I Kill Again” FOLLOW THE SHOW: Website: illconceivedpodcast.com Bluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.com Tumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.com Bluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.world Other podcast: The Worst of All Possible Worlds Stream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beer Other podcast: Kill The Computer Writing: June's Substack ILL CONCEIVED THEME SONG BY: Caleb (Linktree / Bluesky)

We’re cooking up a super-sized serving of Ill Conceived goodness for next week, so in the meantime we decided to dig back into the World Famous Mailbag to read and answer the stuff you’ve been wondering about but we haven’t found space to cover on the main show or the B-sides, including: Personal experiences with Aporia’s Noah Carl Parsing the hypocrisy of female right-wing talking heads The conservative Catholic propaganda mill known as Franciscan University of Steubenville How conservative Christian communities tend to privilege parents over non-parents The effects of being forced to be a caretaker in your family The exclusion of queer families from natalist communities ***WANT MORE ILL CONCEIVED? Every other week, we release B-side supplements to the main episodes where we read your e-mail responses and discuss things further. Come check us out at Patreon.com/illconceived!*** ***WE WANT YOUR THOUGHTS FOR THE WORLD FAMOUS MAILBAG! Send an email with feedback about this week's episode to [email protected]*** EPISODE ART: It's the pig. SOURCES: "Northwestern’s African Studies Program Loses Research Status but Will Continue" by Olivia Sanchez (Inside Higher Ed, August 18, 2026) Franciscan University page about the Portiuncula Franciscan University page about the Tomb of the Unborn Child FOLLOW THE SHOW: Website: illconceivedpodcast.com Bluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.com Tumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.com Bluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.world Other podcast: The Worst of All Possible Worlds Stream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beer Other podcast: Kill The Computer Writing: June's Substack ILL CONCEIVED THEME SONG BY: Caleb (Linktree / Bluesky)

THIS IS A PREVIEW OF A BONUS B-SIDE EPISODE. For access to the full length version of this and every other biweekly bonus B-side, go to Patreon.com/illconceived -------------------------- If Nathan Cofnas is to be believed, he’s going to retain his position at Ghent University, in no small part thanks to a petition of support that was signed by nearly 1,000 academics. We’re talking about it, plus digging into the work of Bouke de Vries, a UGhent professor who brought Cofnas into the fold and has published scholarly work with a eugenicist/natalist bent. We’re also making music recs and reading your letters about: The connection between HDF and Malcolm Collins (watch the BBC4 documentary here or on BBC iPlayer) Erik Ahrens’ whole deal and his connection to AfD in Germany How to properly score the World Famous Mailbag

Back in December 2025, when we talked about the book The Bell Curve, we kept running into the Human Diversity Foundation. This organization, which disseminates bunk pseudo-science through its journal Mankind Quarterly and its blog Aporia, has long been dedicated to advancing the white nationalist cause. This week, two news stories broke—one fairly minor and silly, the other devastating and tragic—that find a common thread in HDF, so Josh and June decided to finally do a full episode about this organization and its key figures. ***WANT MORE ILL CONCEIVED? Every other week, we release B-side supplements to the main episodes where we read your e-mail responses and discuss things further. Come check us out at Patreon.com/illconceived!*** ***WE WANT YOUR THOUGHTS FOR THE WORLD FAMOUS MAILBAG! Send an email with feedback about this week's episode to [email protected]*** EPISODE ART: Nathan Cofnas, a proponent of so-called scientific racism who was recently suspended from his doctoral program at Ghent University in Belgium. Cofnas, who is frequently cited in HDF publications and has appeared on their podcast numerous times, published an article to his blog alleging that recently appointed Cambridge professor Jason Arday, who was a black man, plagiarized his PhD dissertation. Though an investigation cleared Arday of the charges, the story gained overwhelming coverage in the British media. Arday was found dead on August 14. SOURCES: “Race Science Inc.” by Harry Shukman & Patrik Hermansson (Hope Not Hate, October 16, 2024) “The Peter Thiel-Linked Race Science Network that Penetrated Cambridge University and Targeted Jason Arday” by Nafeez Ahmed (Byline Times, August 18, 2026) “Academic who accused Jason Arday of plagiarism suspended by university” by Maia Davies (BBC, August 20, 2026) “A statement in support of Nathan Cofnas's Right to Academic Freedom of Expression” (online petition) Slutcon website Summary of Slutcon events from their Substack “Three Reasons Possession Of Child Porn Must Be Re-Legalized In The Coming Decade” by Rick Falkvinge (note comments on bottom by Emil Kirkegaard) Summary of Emil Kirkegaard libel litigation from 2019 “DEI Fraud and Cover-Up at Cambridge” by Nathan Cofnas Emil Kirkegaard buys Aella a bed on Amazon Aella with Diana Fleischman’s baby “The Beats: Decadence and Disease” by Simon Maass “Why does success run in families?” by Noah Carl “Adding genetic interests to utilitarianism” by Emil O. W. Kirkegaard “Ideas Have Consequences” by Bo Winegard FOLLOW THE SHOW: Website: illconceivedpodcast.com Bluesky: ‪@illconceivedpodcast.com Tumblr: @illconceivedpod FOLLOW JOSH: Website: joshboerman.com Bluesky: @bosh.worstpossible.world Other podcast: The Worst of All Possible Worlds Stream: Traditional Scrench FOLLOW JUNE: Bluesky: @junlper.beer Other podcast: Kill The Computer Writing: June's Substack ILL CONCEIVED THEME SONG BY: Caleb (Linktree / Bluesky)

THIS IS A PREVIEW OF A BONUS B-SIDE EPISODE. For access to the full length version of this and every other biweekly bonus B-side, go to Patreon.com/illconceived -------------------------- Balaji Srinivasan's Network School got kicked out of Malaysia, so they're picking up stakes and moving to Kazakhstan while making a hard pivot into being a natalist compound. We're talking about it, plus we read your letters on: The shape of Russia during the 90s, 2000s, and now Traveling to Russia in the early 2010s Different statistics used to measure birth rates and how one statistic doesn't paint the whole picture Lyman Stone's tweet about Somalians and why he made the distinctions he did