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The Contrarians with Adam and Adir
Author: Adam Schwab and Adir Shiffman
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Get the fearless truth about start-ups and corporate Australia from guys that give you the hard facts, not the company line. Hear Luxury Escapes co-founder Adam Schwab and Catapult Sports Exec Chairman Adir Shiffman provide the inside word on the biggest stories in business with a contrarian take from the guys who sit on both sides of the table. New episodes dropping weekly.
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The guys discuss Woolworth’s Big W struggles, Cettire’s horror earnings announcement, the benefits of neurodiversity, Dan Andrews’ China vacation and chat to Dave Hyman founder of Lendi, Australia’s low profile unicorn. Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The guys destroy CSL and Reece’s WFH Excuse, Adir breaks down Site Minder’s huge surge, Qantas delivers a record result, Nvidia hits new highs but are grey skies looming, Blackbird’s Class of 2015, Sydney Outshines Dan Andrews’ Hellhole and KPop Rules. Thanks for listening! Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The guys chat about CSL’s vaccine spin off and its share price disaster, just how good is Canva, Xero CEO’s lavish pay packet gets slammed by shareholders, Step One struggles to make a buck, RBA again fails basic understanding of how money works and Adam quizzes Adir on the world’s most valuable companies. Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The guys go real deep in Temple & Webster’s full year numbers, when did lawyers become so overpaid, the Sushi wars, why the NHS became the world’s worst health system and Victoria becomes a failed state. Thanks for listening! Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The guys discuss Atlassian’s latest loss and share price decline, Adir explains what it’s like to hold an AGM, why public servants should (or shouldn’t) be flying at the pointy end of planes, the case against fixing prices and Aussie AI start-up Lorikeet’s big raise Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
00:00 - Anti-Semitism in the workplace12:30 - Financial Literacy18:30 - When to set up a board. Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The guys discuss Victoria’s bizarre work from home edict, Tesla expands to food service, Figma’s IPO goes off, Google’s death greatly exaggerated as search comes back, Step One’s profit crunch and Carsales CEO retires a legend. Today's Sponsors: Vanta: www.vanta.com/contrariansNetwealth: www.netwealth.com.au/contrarians Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
00:00 - Growing a business without external capital 10:33 - Advice for changing industries. 18:26 - Dropshipping businesses Thanks to: MicroEquities - visit https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The guys discuss the almighty fight between Employment Hero and former friend, Seek, Atlassian Co-Founders go to War, Southwest Cleans Up, Adir reviews Reg Grundy's autobiography, Adam's advice to businesses on samples and the greatly exaggerated death of coin laundries. Today's Sponsors: Vanta: www.vanta.com/contrarians Netwealth: www.netwealth.com.au/contrarians Aussie BroadbandSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The guys go deep into Mexican fave Guzman y Gomez, the RBA credit card fee ban hit small business hard, why imputation credits aren't as shareholder friendly as they appear, Adir's Book review and the best selling authors and Adam's latest Uber Eats pain Today's Sponsors: Vanta: www.vanta.com/contrarians Netwealth: www.netwealth.com.au/contrarians Aussie Broadband Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
00:00 - Customer Acquisition costs 21:00 - Lab grown diamonds 26:40 - Staff Profit Share options Hear the guys chat more about lab grown diamonds: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/blueys-billions-teslas-tough-times-atlassian-gets-profitable/id1703720734?i=1000653963077 Today's Sponsor: Netwealth: www.netwealth.com.au/contrarians Vanta: www.vanta.com/contrarians Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The guys discuss how the RBA finally got it right with interest rates, Bumble confirms online dating shark jump, the guys pick a side on the ASX dual voting fight, Birken breaks record, Adam’s Limebike issues in London, Adir dives deep into index dominating businesses, Adam’s horrific British Airways experience and Adir gives his Golden Rules on Capitalism. Today's Sponsors: Netwealth: www.netwealth.com.au/contrarians Vanta: www.vanta.com/contrarians Hear the guys talk about Bumble in these episodes: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0nk3xiXeZ1iBO2Gl9VemU8?utm https://www.thecontrarianspod.com/wesfarmers-catch-of-the-day-disaster-netflix-brilliant-strategy-bumbles-troubles-and-rokt-triumph/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
00:00 - Equity Mates x Betashares Acquisition 11:20 - Problems in Child Care 28:32 - When to broaden your horizons outside of your business. Today's Sponsors: Mighty: www.mightypartners.com.au/contrarians Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Droneshield flies and proves Adam wrong, David Di Pilla’s golden runs comes to an abrupt end, Jack Cowin comes to rescue Domino’s, Adam’s WFH article, the strange Tether money making machine and Adir’s pet hate on LinkedIn. Today's Sponsors: Netwealth: www.netwealth.com.au/contrarians Telstra: www.telstra.com.au/tbtc Vanta: www.vanta.com/contrarians See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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