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Estate Agent Showdown is the ultimate debate show for real estate agents, property industry professionals and investors worldwide. Hosted by the dynamic and insightful Matt, this podcast delivers bold discussions on the hottest industry trends, game-changing business models, and the challenges shaping the future. Each episode brings together two expert guests for unfiltered conversations, real-world insights, and the strategies you need to stay ahead in an ever-evolving market. Whether you're scaling your portfolio, refining your sales tactics, or navigating industry shifts, Estate Agent Showdown keeps you informed, inspired, and ready to win. My mission is to challenge the comfort zone of estate agency, one honest conversation at a time.

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In this episode of the Estate Agent Showdown podcast, Matt engages in discussion with guests Chris Buckler and Clare Yates about the current state of the estate agency industry. They explore the challenges agents face, including the over-reliance on technology and data, the importance of sales skills, and the need for a mindset shift within the profession. The conversation delves into the impact of self-employed models versus traditional agency structures, emphasizing the significance of personal relationships and trust in real estate transactions. With a mix of humor and frankness, the guests share their insights on how agents can better serve their clients and adapt to the evolving landscape of the industry. Key Takeaways Mindset Over Model: The biggest challenge in the estate agency industry is not the business model itself but the mindset of the agents. Many have forgotten the importance of sales and personal connection in their roles. Human Touch vs. Technology: While technology, including AI, is becoming increasingly prevalent in the industry, there is a strong belief that human intuition and emotional intelligence are irreplaceable. Agents should focus on building relationships rather than relying solely on tech-driven solutions. Value of Training: There is a significant lack of investment in training within the industry. Agents need to prioritize continuous learning and development to improve their skills and better serve their clients. Importance of Trust: Trust is a critical factor in the client-agent relationship. Agents must demonstrate their value and build trust with clients, as many people are hesitant to hand over their property keys to strangers. Self-Employed Model Viability: The self-employed model in estate agency is gaining traction, but it comes with challenges. Success in this model requires a strong work ethic, proper training, and a commitment to client service, as many agents struggle to earn a sustainable income in their first year. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Clare Yates https://cytraining.works/ https://uk.linkedin.com/in/clare-yates Chris Buckler https://uk.linkedin.com/in/chris-buckler-15263619 https://theagencyuk.com/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode of the Estate Agent Showdown, Matt Giggs hosts a discussion with Ben Madden and Christian Byfield, both seasoned professionals in the lettings industry. The trio explores the evolving landscape of estate agency, touching on the impact of technology and AI on recruitment, service delivery, and the future of the sector. They delve into the challenges and opportunities presented by the rise of build-to-rent developments, the importance of maintaining a strong human element in customer service, and the potential risks of automation. The conversation also highlights the significance of company culture, leadership styles, and the balance between high performance and a supportive work environment. With insights drawn from their experiences, the guests provide a thought-provoking look at the future of lettings and the role of agents in a rapidly changing market. Key Takeaways Impact of AI on Employment: The discussion highlights the potential seismic shift AI could bring to the job market, with concerns about increased unemployment and the need for governments to consider universal income and how to tax AI effectively. Evolution of the Lettings Market: The lettings business is seen as evolving rather than facing an imminent threat, with opportunities for growth as more landlords may seek professional management due to increasing legislative burdens. Importance of Human Touch in Service: Despite the rise of technology and AI, the value of personal relationships and quality service in the estate agency sector remains crucial. People buy from those they connect with and trust, emphasizing the need for genuine human interaction. Cultural vs. Performance Management: There is a debate on whether businesses should focus more on high-performance cultures or nurturing a positive work environment. A blend of both is suggested, with an emphasis on caring for employees while also setting clear expectations for success. Changing Perspectives on Investment: The conversation touches on how younger generations view renting as a long-term option rather than home ownership, indicating a shift in investment perspectives and the need for the industry to adapt to these changing attitudes. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Ben Madden https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-madden-9a8a0417/ https://www.instagram.com/thatbenmadden/?hl=en https://www.fineandcountry.co.uk/chiswick-estate-agents Kris Byfield https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristjanbyfield/ https://www.thedepositary.com/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode of the Estate Agent Showdown, Matt Giggs engages in a lively discussion with guests Steph Walker and Matt Baldock about the current state and future of traditional estate agency. They explore the impact of technology and AI on the industry, the challenges faced by agents, and the evolving landscape of self-employment versus traditional employment. The conversation delves into the effects of companies like Purple Bricks on public perception and the value of estate agents, while also addressing the importance of mentorship and support within the industry. With a mix of humor and candid insights, the trio examines the need for innovation and adaptability in a rapidly changing market, ultimately questioning whether traditional estate agency is truly "fucked" or if there remains a viable path forward. Key Takeaways Impact of AI on Estate Agency: The advent of AI and automation is expected to shrink the number of traditional estate agents, but it will also enable independent business owners to operate more efficiently and at a lower cost. Challenges in Traditional Estate Agency: Many traditional estate agents are constrained by outdated business models that prioritize arbitrary KPIs over genuinely helping clients through the emotionally charged process of moving homes. Self-Employment vs. Employment: While self-employment in the estate agency sector is becoming more accessible, not everyone is suited for it. Some individuals prefer the stability of employment, and there is a need to recognize the value of both paths. Importance of Support Networks: The success of self-employed agents often hinges on their support systems, both at home and within their professional networks. Having a strong support system can help navigate the challenges of starting a business. Learning from Industry Disruptors: The emergence of companies like Purple Bricks has exposed weaknesses in traditional estate agency practices, prompting a reevaluation of service quality and the value agents provide to clients. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode of the Estate Agent Showdown, Matt engages in a lively discussion with industry thought leaders Charlie Lamdin and Chris Watkins about the current state of the estate agency market. They explore whether the industry is broken or simply filled with ineffective agents, diving into statistics that reveal the challenges agents face in selling homes. The conversation touches on the impact of overvaluing properties, the importance of proper recruitment, and the need for a shift in incentives within the industry. Charlie shares a successful process for launching properties that focuses on creating a market rather than fixating on price, while Chris emphasizes the necessity of educating clients about market trends. The episode also addresses the controversial topic of house price predictions and the implications of "doom-mongering" in the industry, ultimately advocating for a more strategic and process-driven approach to real estate. Key Takeaways Industry Challenges: The estate agency industry is facing significant issues, including longer times to move house and decreasing fees for agents compared to 20 years ago. This indicates a broken system that needs addressing. Incentive Misalignment: The current business models of many corporate estate agents prioritize financial services and conveyancing leads over actual property sales, leading to a lack of motivation to sell homes effectively. Effective Pricing Strategy: A successful approach to selling properties involves not discussing price upfront with sellers. Instead, agents should focus on creating a market for the property through viewings and qualified buyers, which can lead to better offers. Importance of Process: Establishing a clear and effective process for selling homes is crucial. This includes thorough market research, involving the seller in the pricing decision, and ensuring that the agent is skilled in managing the sales process. Market Perception and Education: Agents should educate clients about the market and their unique selling process rather than relying solely on traditional pricing discussions. This can help build trust and differentiate them from competitors. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Chris Watkins https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherwatkin/ Charlie Lamdin https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlie-lamdin-4231054/ https://bestagent.co.uk/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode of the Estate Agent Showdown, Matt welcomes industry titans Jamie Minors and Adam Horton to discuss their contrasting approaches to running estate agencies. Jamie, co-founder of Minors & Brady, emphasises the importance of team culture, high performance, and the challenges of scaling a business with nearly 100 employees. Adam, founder of Hortons, advocates for the self-employed model, highlighting the freedom and autonomy it offers agents. The conversation delves into the significance of marketing versus sales, the impact of AI on recruitment, and the evolving landscape of the estate agency industry. Both guests share their experiences, insights, and visions for the future, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the dynamics at play in the real estate market. Key Takeaways Business Models and Culture: There are two distinct business models in the estate agency industry: a high-performance, team-oriented model that emphasizes culture and collaboration, and a self-employed model that offers agents more freedom and autonomy. Each has its own set of challenges and benefits. Importance of Recruitment: Effective recruitment is crucial for both business models. Good or bad recruitment can significantly impact the growth and sustainability of an agency. The right talent can enhance performance, while poor hires can hinder progress. Marketing vs. Sales: There is a debate on whether marketing or sales should come first in a business. One perspective emphasizes that sales must come first to ensure cash flow and operational sustainability, while another argues that a strong brand and marketing strategy are essential for long-term success. Customer Experience and Retention: Providing an exceptional customer experience is vital for retaining clients. Strategies such as personalized follow-ups and thoughtful gestures can help improve customer satisfaction and encourage repeat business, as only one in eight consumers typically return to their previous agent. Industry Trends and Future Outlook: The self-employed model is gaining traction, but there are concerns about the quality of agents within this model. As the market evolves, there may be a consolidation of brokerages, with fewer but stronger players emerging, while the overall number of self-employed agents may continue to grow. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Jamie Minors https://www.minorsandbrady.co.uk/ https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jamie-minors-5ab96b96 Adam Horton https://hortons.co/ https://uk.linkedin.com/in/adamlhorton Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode of the Estate Agent Showdown, Matt hosts a lively debate with industry leaders Mike Robson, co-founder of Avocado, and Mark Lawrenson, operations director of Beresford's Group. The discussion centers around the evolving landscape of estate agency, exploring the balance between personal branding and company scale, the rise of self-employed models, and the challenges of attracting new talent to the industry. Both guests share their insights on the importance of experience, the role of AI in enhancing customer journeys, and the necessity of fostering a supportive culture within agencies. As they delve into recruitment strategies and the future of estate agency, listeners gain valuable perspectives on navigating the complexities of the market and the significance of building strong relationships with clients. Key Takeaways Importance of Experience in Recruitment: Successful self-employed estate agency models often prioritize recruiting agents with significant experience (5-10 years) to ensure they can hit the ground running and provide high-quality service to clients. Balancing Personal Brand and Company Scale: The future of estate agency relies on a combination of personal branding and the backing of a strong company structure. Agents need to establish their personal brand while being supported by a robust organizational framework. Cultural and Training Development: Establishing a strong company culture and providing ongoing training is essential for developing the next generation of estate agents. This includes creating internal academies to nurture talent and ensure a steady influx of new agents into the industry. AI as an Enhancement Tool: AI is viewed as a tool to enhance the customer journey rather than replace human agents. It can streamline background tasks, allowing agents to focus on building relationships and providing personalized service. The Value of Team Dynamics: While a one-to-one agent-client relationship can provide a personalized experience, having a team approach can also be beneficial. A well-structured team can ensure that clients receive consistent support and expertise throughout the transaction process. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Mike Robson Links https://uk.linkedin.com/in/michael-robson-57a84922 https://avocadopropertyagents.co.uk/ Mark Lawrenson Links https://uk.linkedin.com/in/marklawrinson?trk=public_post-text https://www.beresfords.co.uk/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode of the Estate Agent Showdown, Matt hosts a lively discussion with marketing experts Kirsty Franks and Simon Leadbetter about the importance of strategic marketing versus a scattergun approach in the estate agency industry. They explore the pitfalls of relying solely on tactics without a solid marketing strategy, emphasizing the need for deep customer insights and effective communication. The conversation delves into the significance of personal branding, the role of PR, and the challenges faced by self-employed agents in a competitive market. With insights on leveraging existing databases and the impact of AI on marketing, this episode offers valuable advice for estate agents looking to enhance their marketing efforts and build lasting relationships with clients. Key Takeaways Strategy Over Tactics: A scattergun approach to marketing is ineffective. Successful marketing requires a well-thought-out strategy that includes understanding the target audience, their needs, and creating a detailed plan for at least 12 months. Importance of Personal Relationships: Building trust and rapport with clients is crucial. People are more likely to choose an agent they feel connected to, emphasizing the need for agents to communicate in relatable language and maintain relationships with their existing database. Value of PR and Content: Public relations and quality content are essential for establishing credibility and authority in the market. Engaging with local media and providing valuable insights can significantly enhance an agent's visibility and reputation. Utilizing Existing Networks: Agents should leverage their existing contacts and databases before seeking new clients. Regular communication with past clients can lead to referrals and new business opportunities, as these individuals are already familiar with the agent's services. Embracing Technology and AI: While AI can assist in marketing efforts, it should not replace the personal touch that agents provide. Authenticity and individuality are key in a competitive market, and agents should focus on creating unique content that reflects their personal brand. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Kirsty Franks https://wearefrankmarketing.com/ https://www.instagram.com/kirstyfranks/?hl=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirsty-franks-ab977423/?originalSubdomain=uk Simon Leadbetter https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonleadbetter/?originalSubdomain=uk https://www.weareunchained.co.uk/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode of the Estate Agent Showdown podcast, Matt has Alice Bullard, CEO of Nested, and Steve Beercock, Executive Director of Beercock's Estate Agents fighting it out as they delve into the fundamental issues plaguing the UK estate agency scene, exploring the low bar for entry and the impact of misaligned incentives on agent performance. Alice shares insights on how Nested's self-employed model empowers agents to focus on customer outcomes rather than just hitting KPIs, while Steve emphasizes the importance of providing exceptional service and avoiding mediocrity in a competitive market. The conversation also touches on the challenges of personal branding, the necessity of accountability, and the evolving landscape of estate agency, highlighting the distinct approaches of both guests in navigating their respective business models. Key Takeaways Incentives and Misalignment: The UK estate agency industry faces issues with misaligned incentives that do not prioritize the best outcomes for customers. Many agents are incentivized to focus on securing instructions rather than achieving the best sale prices for properties. Barriers to Entry: The low barrier for entry into the estate agency market has led to a proliferation of mediocre service. Many agents can easily list properties without the necessary skills or knowledge, resulting in a significant percentage of homes not selling. Self-Employment Challenges: While the self-employed model offers flexibility and the potential for higher earnings, it is not suitable for everyone. Success requires self-motivation, the ability to manage multiple roles, and a willingness to engage in lead generation activities. Importance of Personal Branding: Building a personal brand is crucial for agents in the self-employed model. Social media serves as a "shop front" for agents, allowing them to showcase their expertise and attract clients, although it requires time and effort to establish. Support and Accountability: Providing support and accountability is essential for self-employed agents to thrive. Establishing a network of support, sharing best practices, and maintaining a culture of collaboration can help agents navigate challenges and avoid burnout. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Guest links Alice Bullard Links https://nested.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-bullard-a5218964/?originalSubdomain=uk Steven Beercock https://beercocks.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-beercock-956b5055/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate.
In this episode of the Estate Agent Showdown, Matt is joined by Simon Whale and Simon Gates engage in a lively discussion about the intersection of data and PropTech, exploring whether technology serves as a tool or a trap for estate agents. The conversation delves into the challenges agents face in adapting to new technologies, the importance of accountability in sales, and the evolving landscape of the real estate industry. With insights on the impact of AI, the necessity of strategic tech adoption, and the changing behaviors of buyers, the two Simons share their perspectives on how agents can thrive in a rapidly shifting market. Listeners can expect a mix of humor, candid opinions, and valuable takeaways for navigating the complexities of modern estate agency. Key Takeaways Sales Mindset: Estate agents often forget that they are in sales, leading to a reluctance to engage with potential clients. Emphasizing the importance of proactive communication can enhance their effectiveness. Tech Overload: Many agents are overwhelmed by the number of PropTech solutions available, leading to a "magpie syndrome" where they chase after various technologies without a strategic plan. This can hinder their productivity rather than enhance it. Accountability and Training: There is a significant lack of accountability in the industry, with many agents needing someone to hold them accountable for their performance. Regular check-ins and structured training can help improve their effectiveness. Changing Consumer Behavior: The expectations of buyers have shifted dramatically due to advancements in technology. Consumers now expect seamless, 24/7 access to information and services, which agents must adapt to in order to remain competitive. AI's Role in the Future: AI is poised to transform the real estate industry by automating administrative tasks and enhancing data analysis. This will allow agents to focus on high-value activities, but it may also lead to a reduction in the number of agents needed as technology takes over routine functions. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Simon Gates Linkedin: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/simon-gates-235a1a135 Simon Gates Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/opening-the-gates-to-more-listings/id1636109628 Simon Whale Linkedin: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/simonwhale Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Matt Giggs is joined by Russel Quirk and Joshua Rayner. On todays episode they dive into the challenges facing the estate agency industry, including the impact of bad PR, recruitment issues, and the stigma surrounding the profession. They discuss the high attrition rates within the industry, with an average tenure of just 17 months for estate agents, and explore the need for better recruitment practices and a shift towards licensing to improve standards. The conversation also touches on the generational shift in workplace dynamics, the difficulties of managing people in today's environment, and the potential growth of self-employed models in the industry. With insights from industry veterans, the episode highlights the importance of authenticity, leadership, and the need for a cultural shift to enhance the reputation of estate agents. Key Takeaways Recruitment Challenges: The estate agency industry faces significant recruitment issues, with a high attrition rate of 48%. Many hires are made out of desperation rather than strategic planning, leading to costly mistakes and a lack of long-term commitment from employees. Perception and PR Issues: The public perception of estate agents is largely negative, influenced by bad PR and a lack of positive representation in the media. This stigma makes it difficult to attract quality candidates who genuinely want to pursue a career in estate agency. Need for Regulation: There is a strong belief that the industry requires proper licensing and regulation to improve standards and accountability. This would help elevate the profession's reputation and justify higher fees, ultimately attracting better talent. Cultural Shift in Management: Managing people has become more challenging due to a shift in workplace culture, where employees may feel victimized or anxious. This has led to difficulties in having honest conversations and addressing performance issues, which can hinder productivity. Self-Employment Growth: The self-employed model in estate agency is expected to grow, as it offers individuals more control over their careers. However, there is a need for better support systems to help new self-employed agents navigate the challenges of lead generation and financial management, especially in the initial months. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Matt Giggs is joined by Verona Frankish and Adam Day and they engage in a discussion about the evolving landscape of estate agency models, particularly focusing on the self-employed versus corporate employed models. Adam shares his personal journey from traditional employment to embracing the self-employed model, highlighting the cultural differences he observed during his experiences abroad. Verona emphasises the importance of providing support and choice for agents within a self-employed framework, while both guests reflect on the challenges of recruitment, leadership, and maintaining a strong company culture. They also address the misconceptions surrounding multi-level marketing in the real estate sector and the significance of trust in building successful agent-client relationships. The conversation delves into the dynamics of leadership, accountability, and the future of the estate agency industry, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the real estate profession. Key Takeaways Self-Employed Model Preference: There is a strong belief in the self-employed estate agency model as a more viable option compared to the traditional corporate employed model. This shift is attributed to the flexibility and potential for higher earnings that self-employment offers. Importance of Leadership and Culture: Effective leadership characterized by understanding, empathy, and curiosity is essential for fostering a positive culture within estate agencies. Companies that fail to adapt their culture risk extinction as the industry evolves. Recruitment and Onboarding Challenges: The success of an agency heavily relies on good recruitment practices. Implementing structured onboarding processes and providing ongoing support can help new agents succeed, particularly in a self-employed model. Trust and Consumer Perception: Building trust with consumers is crucial, especially for self-employed agents who may lack the perceived security of a corporate brand. Ensuring that agents are well-trained and supported can enhance public perception of the self-employed model. Mentorship and Experience: The success of self-employed agents can be significantly influenced by mentorship and prior experience. Establishing a mentoring program for inexperienced agents can help bridge the gap and improve overall success rates in the industry. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Matt Giggs engages in a discussion with industry innovators Ian Preston and Mark Burgess about the evolving landscape of the estate agency sector. They delve into the misconceptions agents hold about their roles, the impact of technology and AI on recruitment and operational efficiency, and the challenges faced by both independent and corporate agencies. The conversation highlights the importance of adapting to change, embracing automation, and understanding customer expectations in a rapidly shifting market. With insights drawn from their extensive experience, the guests emphasize the need for agents to focus on value creation and effective systems to thrive in an increasingly competitive environment. Key Takeaways Importance of Systems in Estate Agency: While estate agency is fundamentally a people business, having robust systems in place is crucial for scaling and supporting agents effectively. Many independent agents overlook the need for these systems, which can enhance efficiency and service quality. Misconceptions About Client Care: A prevalent belief among agents is that they genuinely care about their clients and want to make a difference. However, the reality is that many agents are bogged down by administrative tasks, limiting their ability to engage meaningfully with clients. Impact of Technology and AI: The integration of technology, particularly AI, can significantly streamline operations in estate agencies. By automating mundane tasks, agents can focus on high-value activities, ultimately improving service and profitability. Crisis in the Industry: The estate agency sector has been in a state of crisis for years, with many agents feeling underpaid and overworked. This has led to a lack of innovation and a reliance on outdated practices, making it difficult for agents to adapt to changing market conditions. Need for Value Proposition Understanding: Agents must understand their value proposition and how to effectively communicate it to clients. Many agents struggle with this, often defaulting to price as the primary selling point, rather than emphasizing the unique value they bring to the table. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Inside Talent: https://www.insidetalent.com/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate.
WELCOME TO ESTATE AGENT SHOWDOWN! A dynamic platform designed to provide valuable insights and diverse perspectives from industry professionals. With nearly 30 years of experience in the property sector, Matt Giggs acknowledges the overwhelming challenges faced by agents and business owners today. Listeners can expect engaging discussions that cut through the noise of the industry, featuring guests who are passionate about sharing their knowledge on pressing topics such as the self-employed model, hiring and training, AI, and marketing strategies. The episode sets the stage for an exciting journey of exploration and learning, inviting feedback and suggestions from the audience to shape future content. Key Takeaways Purpose of the Podcast: The podcast aims to provide valuable insights and discussions for professionals in the property industry, helping them navigate the complexities and challenges they face. Diverse Perspectives: Each episode will feature two guests with differing opinions and experiences, allowing listeners to explore various viewpoints and make informed decisions. Focus on Real Issues: The podcast will tackle significant industry topics without shying away from difficult conversations, ensuring that the content is relevant and engaging. Listener Engagement: Audience feedback is encouraged, with listeners invited to suggest guests and topics that are currently challenging them in their professional lives. Commitment to Quality Content: There is a promise to deliver high-quality guests and actionable insights, with a substantial number of episodes already planned to address a wide range of industry-related subjects. Social Links YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattgiggs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giggsmatt/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@giggsmatt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgiggs/ Host Bio Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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Matt Giggs is a visionary property professional, industry leader, and the dynamic host of the Estate Agent Showdown Podcast. With 30 years of hands-on experience in real estate, Matt has built, grown, and inspired countless estate agents and businesses to reach new heights. Known for his no-nonsense approach and deep industry insights, he brings a fresh perspective to every episode, sparking candid conversations with top experts on the biggest challenges and opportunities in estate agency. Whether dissecting market trends or uncovering game-changing strategies, Matt’s passion for the industry and commitment to elevating professionals make him a must-listen voice in real estate. LINKS Instagram: @mattgiggs www.mattgiggs.com
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