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Who's really in control when you buy a property?

The Elephant In The Room is where the things that no one wants to talk about, actually get talked about.

Veronica Morgan, real estate agent, buyers agent and co-host of Foxtel’s Location Location Location Australia & Chris Bates, financial planner, mortgage broker and wealth coach have joined forces to find out what’s really going on in the world of real estate.

Veronica and Chris talk to property owners and buyers every day in their respective lines of business. They’ve observed a wide spectrum of confidence in people’s decision making ability when buying and selling property, often to the detriment of the individuals concerned. They are both fascinated by consumer behaviour and together they’re going to uncover who’s really making the decisions when you buy a property.

In each episode they get into the psyche of buyers, agents, auctioneers and other industry experts to learn the truth about how buyers are influenced and why they do the things they do. In every episode you’ll learn from the mistakes of a “property dumbo” as well as Chris & Veronica’s “elephant rider bootcamp” training session.

The plan? This property podcast has been created to help us all make better property decisions!
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What’s really behind the shift we’re seeing in regional property market trends, especially along the NSW South Coast? In this episode, we sit down with our good friend and local expert Matthew Knight as someone who’s been living and breathing this stuff for years, to give us the real story. We’ve heard all the noise about COVID booms and tree changers flooding coastal towns, but what happens after the rush settles? Are people still moving out of the city, or has the tide gone out? Matthew walks us through what he’s seeing on the ground; where prices surged way too far, where they’ve pulled back, and which areas are starting to bounce back. We talk about the rise of Airbnb buyers again, the return of holiday home interest, and how first-home buyers have actually had some solid opportunities, despite what the headlines say. The regional property market trends aren’t one-size-fits-all, and this chat really digs into why. We also get into infrastructure changes like the Shell Cove Marina and new hospitals, and how those are making a real difference for retirees, families, and essential workers looking to settle in. And of course, we couldn’t help but talk about schools, childcare, and what happens when a region grows faster than it’s ready for. This one’s a grounded, honest look at life beyond the cities; what’s working, what’s struggling, and what might be next. If you’ve been watching regional property market trends and wondering where things are headed, this episode’s got plenty to chew on. Episode Highlights: 00:00 - Introduction 01:12 - Who is Matthew Knight? 01:29 - How has the South Coast property market changed since COVID? 05:44 - Which areas were hit hardest when the South Coast boom was corrected? 08:18 - Did city buyers push prices beyond what locals consider fair value? 10:53 - Why are some beach towns struggling more than others? 13:15 - Are more investors shifting to short-term rentals like Airbnb? 15:49 - Why have some people reversed their sea change and returned to the city? 23:36 - Did first-home buyers take advantage of softer conditions in 2024? 28:40 - What infrastructure upgrades are reshaping the region? 32:01 - Are zoning changes and new housing keeping up with growth? 33:41 - What broke when the population boomed and is it being fixed? 36:45 - What does the next five years look like for the regional market? 39:37 - How much does the future of remote work affect the coast’s appeal? 42:07 - Do locals just visit the city when they need a dose of culture or convenience? 46:22 - Matthew Knight’s property dumbo About Our Guest: Matthew Knight is the Founder and Director of Precium, a buyer’s agency specialising in regional New South Wales, particularly the NSW South Coast. With over two decades of experience in property investment and market analysis, Matt combines data-driven insight with a practical understanding of local dynamics. A long-time resident of the South Coast himself, he has firsthand knowledge of the region’s unique challenges and opportunities. Matt is widely respected for his integrity, deep local expertise, and commitment to helping homebuyers, investors, and downsizers make informed, confident property decisions. Connect with Matthew Knight: LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattknightprect Instagram https://www.instagram.com/preciumproperty/ Website https://precium.com.au/ Resources: Visit our website https://www.theelephantintheroom.com.au If you have any questions or would like to be featured on our show, contact us at: The Elephant in the Room Property Podcast - [email protected] Looking for a Sydney Buyers Agent? https://www.gooddeeds.com.au Work with Veronica: https://www.veronicamorgan.com.au Looking for a Mortgage Broker? https://www.alcove.au Work with Chris: [email protected] Enjoyed the podcast? Don't miss out on what's yet to come! Hit that subscription button, spread the word and join us for more insightful discussions in real estate. Your journey starts now!   Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theelephantintheroom-podcast Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-elephant-in-the-room-property-podcast/id1384822719 Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Ge1626dgnmK0RyKPcXjP0?si=26cde394fa854765 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Australia’s housing reforms aim to improve affordability and help more Australians buy homes. But could they unintentionally make it harder to build new housing?In this episode, Richard Temlett, National Executive Director of Research at Charter Keck Cramer, explains the risks facing Australia’s property market. We discuss investor and SMSF changes, development feasibility, construction costs, planning delays and why approved projects don’t always become completed homes.Richard also explores the potential impact on Melbourne and Brisbane apartments, the rise of build-to-rent and social housing, and why reducing investor demand doesn’t automatically create more affordable housing.With Australia’s housing crisis driven by population growth, planning restrictions, taxation and limited social housing, Richard argues that there is no single solution. Addressing the crisis will require long-term coordination between governments, developers, financiers and the broader industry.Episode Highlights01:41 – Meet Richard Temlett: Inside Australia’s Housing Crisis05:17 – Why SMSF Changes Could Hit New Housing Supply08:18 – Why Housing Uncertainty Is Freezing Buyers11:13 – Why Build-to-Rent Could Be a Housing Winner18:11 –The Hidden Risks Developers Are Carrying25:30 – Can Australia Actually Fix Its Housing Crisis?27:03 – Why More Housing Supply Is So Hard to Deliver31:50 – How Politics Is Reshaping Australia’s Housing Supply37:12 – Why Investor Changes Could Reshape the Rental Market39:31 – Why Australia’s Construction Industry Is So Unproductive44:43 – Why Property Needs More Policy Certainty48:02 – Why Politics and Property Run on Different Timelines51:26 – The Case for a National Housing Reset54:16 – The Housing Crisis: What Needs to Change Next?About the GuestRichard Temlett is the National Executive Director of Research at Charter Keck Cramer, where he specialises in data-driven, evidence-based research to guide property development and investment decisions across Australia.With extensive experience analysing residential property markets, Richard works closely with developers, financiers and government to understand the economic, planning and market forces shaping Australia’s housing supply. His work focuses on turning complex market data into practical insights about development feasibility, housing demand and the factors influencing where and what gets built.Richard is also the host of Precisely Property and a regular industry speaker, sharing his research and perspective on the challenges facing Australia’s property market. A former lawyer, he holds a Bachelor of Laws from Flinders University and a Master of Business from RMIT.In this episode, Richard brings that research-driven perspective to one of Australia’s biggest challenges: how to increase housing supply without creating policies that unintentionally make new development harder to deliver.Connect with RichardLinkedIn | Richard TemlettLinkedIn | Charter Keck CramerWebsite | Charter Keck Cramer ResourcesVisit our website: https://www.theelephantintheroom.com.auIf you have any questions or would like to be featured on our show, contact us at:The Elephant in the Room Property Podcast - [email protected] for a Sydney Buyers Agent? https://www.gooddeeds.com.auWork with Veronica: https://www.veronicamorgan.com.auLooking for a Mortgage Broker? alcove.com.auWork with Chris: [email protected] Enjoyed the podcast? Don't miss out on what's yet to come! Hit that subscription button, spread the word, and join us for more insightful discussions in real estate. Your journey starts now!Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theelephantintheroom-podcastSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-elephant-in-the-room-property-podcast/id1384822719Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3r0nnJrLUu3t1GpO7X3j6EIf you enjoyed today’s podcast, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share the show! There’s more to come, so we hope to have you along with us on this journey!See you on the inside,Veronica & Chris
For decades, the path to building wealth in Australia seemed relatively straightforward: buy your home, purchase an investment property, use negative gearing to help manage the cost, and eventually focus more heavily on superannuation.But with changes to negative gearing, capital gains tax and investment structures on the horizon, that traditional strategy is becoming much harder to follow—especially for Australians starting from scratch. So what does financial advice look like now?In this episode, James Wrigley from First Financial joins Veronica and Chris to unpack how the new tax environment is changing the way Australians build wealth. James explains why some clients in their 40s are now being encouraged to put substantially more money into superannuation than they would have previously, while still maintaining money outside super for flexibility.The conversation goes well beyond property. We explore what higher capital gains tax means for shares and ETFs, why automatically rebalancing funds can create additional capital gains, how the proposed changes could affect family trusts and bucket companies, and why some investors may eventually move towards investment company structures instead. We also look at whether property still makes sense when negative gearing becomes less attractive—and why upgrading or renovating your own home could become a more compelling alternative.For younger Australians, James also discusses the First Home Super Saver Scheme and why it could receive more attention as the investment landscape changes. For older Australians, the conversation turns to retirement, investment property sell-down strategies and the growing trend towards "giving while living" as wealth transfers between generations earlier. The message throughout is clear: higher taxes may change the maths, but they shouldn't become an excuse to stop investing altogether.Episode Highlights01:49 – How the Budget Changes Financial Advice05:19 – Why Super Has Become Plan A07:33 – Why Trusts Are Losing Their Appeal10:09 – Division 296: What the $3M Super Rule Means15:15 – Why CGT Makes Investing More Complicated19:44 – Will Higher CGT Kill Investment Aspiration?24:24 – Why Property Still Has a Contrarian Case28:09 – Could Upgrading Your Home Beat Buying Property?31:13 – Why Fear Could Keep Sellers Off the Market36:24 – When Should Investors Sell Before Retirement?38:08 – Why the First Home Super Saver Scheme Matters44:38 – Why Parents Are Choosing to Give Wealth Earlier46:58 – Are Trusts and Bucket Companies Dead?48:13 – Why Investment Companies Could Replace TrustsAbout the GuestJames Wrigley is a financial adviser at First Financial and the author of Retire Life Ready. He has worked in the superannuation and financial advice industry for more than 20 years, including more than a decade as a financial adviser. James is known for breaking down complex financial concepts into practical insights, with hundreds of thousands of Australians following his educational content online.In this episode, James brings a practitioner's perspective to the latest tax changes, drawing on the real conversations he is having with clients across different stages of wealth creation—from people in their 40s who had planned to buy investment properties, to retirees reconsidering their property holdings and families looking at how to transfer wealth to the next generation.Connect with JamesLinkedIn | James WrigleyLinkedIn | First FinancialWebsite| First Financial ResourcesVisit our website: https://www.theelephantintheroom.com.auIf you have any questions or would like to be featured on our show, contact us at:The Elephant in the Room Property Podcast - [email protected] for a Sydney Buyers Agent? https://www.gooddeeds.com.auWork with Veronica: https://www.veronicamorgan.com.auLooking for a Mortgage Broker? alcove.com.auWork with Chris: [email protected] Enjoyed the podcast? Don't miss out on what's yet to come! Hit that subscription button, spread the word, and join us for more insightful discussions in real estate. Your journey starts now!Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theelephantintheroom-podcastSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-elephant-in-the-room-property-podcast/id1384822719Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3r0nnJrLUu3t1GpO7X3j6EIf you enjoyed today’s podcast, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share the show! There’s more to come, so we hope to have you along with us on this journey!See you on the inside,Veronica & Chris
Will taxing property investors actually make housing more affordable—or simply change who owns the homes?Australia's housing affordability crisis is real, but the political response to it is anything but straightforward. In this episode of The Elephant in the Room, Veronica Morgan and Chris Bates sit down with Senator Andrew Bragg, Shadow Minister for Housing and Homelessness, for a robust discussion about Labor's changes to negative gearing, capital gains tax and property investment.Andrew argues that Australia's biggest problem isn't simply who owns property or how much tax investors pay—it's that we're not building enough homes. The conversation digs into the unintended consequences of restricting investment, the impact on housing supply, the role of SMSFs, the 5% deposit scheme, migration and whether government policies are inadvertently pushing people towards different forms of leverage.But criticism is only half the conversation. Veronica and Chris push Andrew on what should happen instead, exploring infrastructure funding, construction productivity, skilled migration, planning and regulation, the National Construction Code, tax incentives for new builds and ways to encourage more housing supply. Andrew also outlines three Coalition housing policies: an infrastructure fund, a housing and migration pledge, and a recalibration of the National Construction Code.If you're an investor, homeowner or aspiring buyer trying to understand where Australia's housing market is heading, this is a conversation worth hearing. It cuts through the political slogans and asks the harder question: are we actually fixing the housing problem—or simply moving the pieces around?Episode Highlights01:34 – Why Andrew Bragg Thinks Housing Reform Is Backwards04:13 – Will Taxing Investors Reduce Housing Supply?08:48 – Why Andrew Bragg Opposes the SMSF Property Ban12:13 – Is Superannuation Limiting Your Investment Choices?17:54 – Andrew Bragg's Plan to Get More Homes Built19:46 – Can Migration Keep Rising Without More Housing?28:29 – Can Canberra Actually Force States to Build?31:55 – Could Falling Property Sales Blow a Hole in State Budgets?35:05 – Should Australia Open Up to Foreign Housing Investment?38:51 – Could Tighter Lending Be Locking Buyers Out?42:22 – Is Australia's Housing Crisis Fuelled by Bad Policy?About the GuestSenator Andrew Bragg is the Shadow Minister for Housing and Homelessness and a prominent voice in Australia's housing and economic policy debate. He has been deeply involved in scrutinising Labor's changes to negative gearing, capital gains tax and SMSF property investment, while also helping develop the Coalition's alternative housing agenda.Before entering politics, Andrew worked at Ernst & Young, the Financial Services Council and the Business Council of Australia, giving him extensive experience across financial services, taxation and economic policy. He has also written about Australia's superannuation system, bringing a broader perspective on wealth creation, investment and retirement policy.In this episode, Andrew brings that policy background to one of Australia's most contentious issues: how to improve housing affordability without undermining investment and supply. He makes the case for reducing construction costs and regulation, increasing building productivity, recalibrating migration and making housing development more economically viable.Connect with Sen. AndrewAndrew Bragg - Liberal Party of AustraliaInstagram | Andrew BraggWebsite | Senator Andrew BraggLinkedIn | Senator Andrew BraggYouTube | Senator Andrew BraggTikTok | Senator Andrew BraggX (Formerly Twitter) | Senator Andrew BraggFacebook | Senator Andrew Bragg ResourcesVisit our website: https://www.theelephantintheroom.com.auIf you have any questions or would like to be featured on our show, contact us at:The Elephant in the Room Property Podcast - [email protected] for a Sydney Buyers Agent? https://www.gooddeeds.com.auWork with Veronica: https://www.veronicamorgan.com.auLooking for a Mortgage Broker? alcove.com.auWork with Chris: [email protected] Enjoyed the podcast? Don't miss out on what's yet to come! Hit that subscription button, spread the word, and join us for more insightful discussions in real estate. Your journey starts now!Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theelephantintheroom-podcastSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-elephant-in-the-room-property-podcast/id1384822719Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3r0nnJrLUu3t1GpO7X3j6EIf you enjoyed today’s podcast, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share the show! There’s more to come, so we hope to have you along with us on this journey!See you on the inside,Veronica & Chris
With the 2026 Federal Budget reshaping tax incentives and many investors questioning whether traditional buy-and-hold strategies still make sense, where should property investors be looking next?In this episode, Veronica Morgan and Chris Bates are joined by property developer and educator Michael Tiemens to explore why small-scale property development is becoming an increasingly attractive strategy for investors seeking to build wealth through value creation rather than relying on market appreciation alone. Michael explains how subdivision and development can manufacture equity, while also highlighting the discipline, due diligence, and strategic thinking required to make these projects successful.Together, they unpack the realities behind successful development—from identifying the right sites and understanding buyer demand to conducting rigorous feasibility studies and managing finance, planning, construction, and market risks. They also challenge one of the biggest misconceptions in property investing: that tax benefits should drive investment decisions. Instead, the conversation focuses on building resilient investment strategies based on sound fundamentals, long-term thinking, and careful risk management.Whether you're an experienced investor looking to adapt to Australia's changing tax landscape or you're considering your first development project, this episode offers practical insights into how small-scale development can fit within a smarter, more sustainable property investment strategy. Tune in to discover why creating value—not simply waiting for capital growth—could be the key to building long-term wealth.Episode Highlights01:28 – The Budget Changes the Property Investment Game05:59 – Why Tax Shouldn't Drive Your Investment Strategy13:03 – What Happens When a Development Goes Off Track?18:58 – Buy Low, Create Value, Sell Smart21:15 – How to Negotiate a Better Development Deal23:56 – Build What Buyers Actually Want25:36 – The Battleaxe Block Objections Developers Face26:58 – Why Backyard Living Could Drive Buyer Demand28:59 – Why Property Fundamentals Matter More Than Tax32:20 – Can Partnering With Landowners Make Development Easier?36:27 – The Risks Developers Need to Spot Before Buying40:36 – Why Patience Could Be a Developer's Biggest Advantage43:08 – How to De-Risk a Property Development Project50:20 – Designing Developments Around Real Buyer DemandAbout the GuestMichael Tiemens is a property developer, educator, and founder of Develop Coach, where he helps aspiring and experienced investors navigate the complexities of small-scale property development. After building his own portfolio through subdivision and development projects, Michael has dedicated his career to teaching investors how to create wealth by manufacturing equity rather than relying solely on market appreciation.Drawing on years of hands-on experience, Michael specialises in development feasibility, site selection, subdivision strategy, and risk management. He is passionate about helping investors understand the commercial realities of development, equipping them with practical frameworks to assess opportunities, avoid costly mistakes, and make informed investment decisions in an evolving property market.Through his coaching, education, and real-world project experience, Michael has helped hundreds of investors develop the knowledge and confidence to approach small-scale property development with greater discipline, clarity, and long-term strategic thinking.Connect with MichaelInstagram | Michael TiemensLinkedIn | Michael TiemensWebsite | H.COResourcesVisit our website: https://www.theelephantintheroom.com.auIf you have any questions or would like to be featured on our show, contact us at:The Elephant in the Room Property Podcast - [email protected] for a Sydney Buyers Agent? https://www.gooddeeds.com.auWork with Veronica: https://www.veronicamorgan.com.auLooking for a Mortgage Broker? alcove.com.auWork with Chris: [email protected] the podcast? Don't miss out on what's yet to come! Hit that subscription button, spread the word, and join us for more insightful discussions in real estate. Your journey starts now!Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theelephantintheroom-podcastSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/the-elephant-in-the-room-property-podcast/id1384822719Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3r0nnJrLUu3t1GpO7X3j6EIf you enjoyed today’s podcast, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and share the show! There’s more to come, so we hope to have you along with us on this journey!See you on the inside,Veronica & Chris
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