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Amy recently joined The Sam Sanders Show to talk about the rise of AI slop in fashion. Thank you to Sam and his team for allowing Back Row to republish the interview here!
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Even the fashion industry can’t escape AI slop.
Fast fashion brands are using AI to pump out new looks and trends, and speed up production at unsustainable rates. It’s a business model that relies much more on algorithmic data than human design. Chances are you’ve even seen plenty of these products in your social media feeds.
Sam chats with fashion journalist Amy Odell, host of the ‘Back Row’ podcast, about AI’s influence in the industry and how we can all be better consumers. Plus, is high fashion on life support? Amy also breaks down the perils of luxury shopping today.
The Sam Sanders Show is a production of KCRW and Sam Sanders Productions.
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Jonathan Van Meter spent five years inside Kim Kardashian's world for his new biography, Citizen Kim: The Woman Who Created the Future. He talks about what her rarefied world of fame and wealth is really like, her childhood front-row seat to the O.J. Simpson trial, and how Kanye West got her into the Met Gala. Plus: what Jonathan could and couldn't learn about how the sex tape was released, and whether Kim is laying the groundwork to run for political office.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:00 How Jonathan Got Five Years of Access
05:30 Inside Kim Kardashian's House (and Her 24 Staffers)
12:00 Kim Air: Kim's Private Jet
30:30 Kim and the O.J. Simpson Trial
40:30 The Kim Kardashian Sex Tape
45:30 The Paris Robbery
48:00 Kanye, Anna Wintour & the Met Gala
55:00 Will Kim Run for Office?
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Edited by Chrissi Harris.
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Referenced in this episode:
Facelift confessions, part 1: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-1-the-brutal-realities-of-getting-work-done
Facelift confessions, part 2: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-2-expect-an-emotional-toll
In 2004, Fox turned plastic surgery into primetime entertainment. The Swan reality show gave contestants about $200,000 worth of surgery each, put them on crash diets, banned mirrors for three months, and then put them in a beauty pageant. Nine million people watched. Erin Lee Carr, director of 'Mommy Dead and Dearest' and 'Britney vs Spears,' goes back to the women 20 years later in her hit Hulu documentary, The Swan: Behind the Mirror — and tells Amy what the documentary couldn't.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
04:45 Getting the Swans to talk again
10:00 "I almost died for reality television"
19:30 How much choice did they have? "1%"
22:45 Starvation diets and spoonfuls of peanut butter
26:00 The nude photos Dr. Haworth kept
28:50 The $5 million contract
36:50 "Would you do it again?"
40:00 A classic Anna Wintour story
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The spring 2027 shows just wrapped in Paris, a year after the "Great Reset" brought new creative directors to Chanel, Dior, and many more. Amy is joined by Dana Thomas, New York Times bestselling author of Deluxe, Gods and Kings and Fashionopolis, to hand out Fashion Month Awards.
They get into John Galliano's PR rehab after the canceled Met show, who's having the biggest sophomore slump, and more.
The full episode for Premium subscribers includes awards for Best Runway Stunt and Best Overall, plus analysis of John Galliano's weak Zara launch and Virginie Viard's explosive book.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
04:30 Biggest sophomore slump
10:45 Best show nobody talked about
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Mrs. Dow Jones (Haley Sacks) on how to stop impulse buying and why fashion month keeps you broke. Part One of two.
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Haley Sacks, aka @MrsDowJones, joins Amy to break down how fashion month keeps us stuck in a cycle of broke. Every season the same trend gets planted on the runway, in your feed, and on influencers, and within two weeks a cheaper version shows up at Zara.
Haley talks about how to stop impulse buying, why luxury goods are so expensive, and what it was like to grow up in one of the world's wealthiest neighborhoods.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:30 How fashion month keeps us in a cycle of broke
04:00 From the runway to Zara in two weeks
08:00 Buy fewer, better things
10:00 How to stop impulse buying
16:00 The luxury pyramid and the $690 keychain
20:00 Is any luxury actually worth it?
22:00 Hunting a sold-out clutch with an AI agent
25:30 Haley's years as an Upper East Side nanny
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