From Code to C-Suite Podcast

Fintech is changing again. This time, AI is accelerating what is possible, but technology only matters if it solves a real customer problem.In this episode of From Code to C-Suite, Liam sits down with Chris Hartley, Chief Product and Operating Officer at Kasheesh, to discuss more than 25 years in fintech, the evolution of product leadership, and how AI could reshape payments and financial decision-making.Chris began his career on the front lines of a credit union before moving into fintech and spending more than a decade across eBay and PayPal. Today, he is helping build Kasheesh, a fintech platform that enables consumers to split purchases across multiple debit and credit cards, giving them more flexibility over cash flow and credit utilisation.Throughout the conversation, Chris shares why staying close to the customer has shaped his entire approach to product, what he learned from building financial products at scale, and why product readiness and launch readiness are two very different things.He also explores what happens as AI agents begin making purchasing decisions on behalf of consumers, the new problems that creates when transactions go wrong, and why product teams need to think beyond automation to trust, control and the overall customer experience.In this episode, we cover:•⁠ ⁠Chris’s journey through more than 25 years in fintech•⁠ ⁠Building financial products at Fiserv, eBay and PayPal•⁠ ⁠Why staying close to the customer matters at every stage of your career•⁠ ⁠The difference between product readiness and launch readiness•⁠ ⁠What a failed PayPal experiment taught Chris about testing and iteration•⁠ ⁠Moving from individual performance to becoming a multiplier as a leader•⁠ ⁠Why customer empathy matters when building financial products•⁠ ⁠How AI agents could change payments and purchasing decisions•⁠ ⁠What happens when an AI-controlled transaction goes wrong•⁠ ⁠Why technology should always be tied to a real customer problem•⁠ ⁠Building teams that are confident enough to make decisions and learn from mistakesAI will change how financial products are built and used. The challenge is making sure the customer remains at the centre of every decision.

Being early can be just as damaging as being wrong.In this episode of From Code to C-Suite, Liam sits down with Phil Fogel, co-founder of Cork Protocol, to discuss more than a decade of building in crypto, the challenge of timing a market correctly, and what it really takes to keep going through the highs and lows of startup life.Phil began his career in traditional finance, trading options on the floor of the American Stock Exchange before discovering Bitcoin in 2013. Since then, he has built several blockchain companies, explored staking infrastructure and onchain carbon markets, and is now building Cork Protocol, infrastructure designed to help financial risk be priced and managed onchain.Phil shares why seeing the future is not enough if the market is not ready, how founders learn to handle setbacks differently over time, and why the team around you becomes even more important as businesses move faster.In this episode, we cover:• Phil’s journey from traditional finance into Bitcoin and Web3• Why being early can be just as costly as being wrong• Building infrastructure for onchain risk and liquidity• The emotional highs and lows of startup life• How AI is changing software development and team structures• Why smaller teams can now build and test much faster• The challenge of developing future engineers when AI writes more of the code• How agentic finance could reshape insurance and financial services• Why critical thinking becomes more important as AI improves• Why trust and fast feedback are essential when building a team • The security risks of building financial infrastructure in an AI-driven worldIn fast-moving markets, being right is only part of the challenge. Timing, execution and the people around you matter just as much.📲 Connect with Liam Moir-Holland and From Code to C-Suite:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/liammoirholland/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liam-moir-holland-a194b3158/LinkedIn (Podcast): https://www.linkedin.com/company/from-code-to-c-suite/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@code.to.csuite 📲Connect with Phil Fogel:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philfog/ 📌 Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and investors.

Entrepreneurship is not for everyone, and building a successful business is rarely a straightforward journey.In this episode of From Code to C-Suite, Liam sits down with Alex Cordover, CEO of Tradeable, to discuss the realities of entrepreneurship, making decisions with incomplete information, and building a fintech platform for private assets.Alex began his career working with artificial intelligence and machine learning before AI became a global conversation. He went on to work inside a Fortune 500 company, launch his own startup, and help incubate Tradeable inside Victory Park Capital before spinning it out as an independent business.Today, Tradeable is building financial infrastructure for private credit and alternative assets. Alex shares how the business moved from an internal idea to a growing marketplace, why adoption follows economics, and how founders can recognise when to stay the course and when the market is telling them to pivot.In this episode, we cover:• Building Tradeable from an internal idea into a private asset marketplace• Why solving a genuine market problem matters more than starting with the technology• How to know when to stay the course and when to pivot• Why good decisions do not always produce perfect outcomes• The realities of entrepreneurship that social media rarely shows• What founders should look for when making their first hires• Why early employees must think like operators and owners• How AI is lowering the barriers to starting a business• Why making yourself uncomfortable is essential for growthBuilding a company means learning to make sound decisions, adapt to the market and keep moving through uncertainty.--------------------------------------------------------------📲 Connect with Liam Moir-Holland and From Code to C-Suite:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/liammoirholland/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liam-moir-holland-a194b3158/LinkedIn (Podcast): https://www.linkedin.com/company/from-code-to-c-suite/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@code.to.csuite 📲Connect with Alex Cordover:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-cordover-72a0a276/📌 Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and investors.

Building software used to take months. Now, a prototype can be ready in three days. In this episode of From Code to C-Suite, Liam sits down with Gregor Siwinski, CEO/CTO at Payability, to explore how AI is changing software development, fintech and the way modern engineering teams operate. Gregor has helped build the technology behind more than $6 billion in financing for e-commerce businesses. He shares how Payability supports Amazon and Walmart sellers, why managing risk remains one of fintech’s hardest challenges, and how a team of fewer than 50 people can operate at significant scale. He also explains why faster development does not automatically create successful businesses. When almost anyone can build a product, the real advantage is understanding what should be built, who needs it and what happens after the prototype. We cover: •⁠ ⁠How Payability gives e-commerce sellers faster access to capital •⁠ ⁠Building the financial infrastructure behind $6 billion in financing •⁠ ⁠Why one poor risk decision can outweigh thousands of successful transactions •⁠ ⁠How AI has reduced software development from months to days •⁠ ⁠Why smaller teams can now build more with less capital •⁠ ⁠What the next generation of engineers needs to succeed •⁠ ⁠Why CTOs must remain hands-on with technology •⁠ ⁠The difference between building quickly and building something valuable When anyone can build, knowing what deserves to be built becomes the real advantage.📲 Connect with Liam Moir-Holland and From Code to C-Suite:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/liammoirholland/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liam-moir-holland-a194b3158/LinkedIn (Podcast): https://www.linkedin.com/company/from-code-to-c-suite/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@code.to.csuite 📲Connect with Gregor Siwinski:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregor-siwinski/📌 Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and investors.

In the AI era, building is cheaper. Distribution is everything. In this episode of From Code to C-Suite, Liam sits down with David Attermann, former Head of Web3 and AI investments at M31 Capital, to unpack the brutal truth about what actually getsfunded, what kills Web3 projects, and why timing and go-to-market matter more than most founders admit. David also shares why he’s moving from investing into operating, joining Twism as Chief Strategy Officer, and how Twism is building a merchant and consumer rewards layer using programmable digital currencies, loyalty data, and personalization. In this episode, we cover:• Why execution beats ideas in an AI world• The fatal flaws that stall Web3 startups• Timing: the right tech, too early, and how companies die waiting• Why distribution has to be a day-one plan• Why AI is only as valuable as the context you give it• How Twism uses programmable rewards to unlock retention and spend•Why you don’t learn from winning, you learn from losing The realities of execution, distribution, and surviving the timing game.📲 Connect with Liam Moir-Holland and From Code to C-Suite:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/liammoirholland/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liam-moir-holland-a194b3158/LinkedIn (Podcast): https://www.linkedin.com/company/from-code-to-c-suite/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@code.to.csuite  📲Connect with David Attermann:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-attermann-70397915/📌 Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, and investors.