The High Performance Life

In this episode, I sit down with Soon Hagerty, entrepreneur, brand strategist, philanthropist, and co-founder of Boundless Futures Foundation, to talk about what happens when you've achieved success but realize it's time to redefine what matters most. Soon has spent decades building businesses, leading teams, and creating opportunities for others. After nearly 20 years helping grow Hagerty into a publicly traded, multibillion-dollar company, she reached a point where everything in her professional life was going well. But something was missing. She began asking herself a question that I think every high performer needs to consider: What if the life you've worked so hard to build needs to be edited? That question led Soon to make one of the most important decisions of her life. She stepped back from her demanding corporate role to become more present for her daughter, prioritize her health, and create space for the things that mattered most. Our conversation explores why successful people struggle to slow down, how our childhood experiences shape the parents we become, and why having the ability to do more doesn't necessarily mean we should. We also talk about self-awareness, accountability, emotional regulation, Stoicism, social media, parenting, personal growth, forgiveness, and why meaningful relationships require something that technology can't replace: genuine human connection. This is a conversation about learning to make intentional choices before life makes them for us — and understanding that sometimes the most powerful thing we can do is let go of something good to make room for something better. About the Guest Soon Hagerty is an entrepreneur, brand strategist, philanthropist, and co-founder of Boundless Futures Foundation. After fleeing Vietnam with her family at the age of four and resettling in California, Soon built a career spanning entrepreneurship, global brand leadership, and social impact. For nearly 20 years, she helped transform Hagerty from a specialty insurance business into a global, publicly traded lifestyle brand valued at more than $3 billion. She has also founded and co-owned multiple businesses, including the mission-driven restaurant The Good Bowl. Today, Soon focuses much of her energy on supporting women entrepreneurs through Boundless Futures Foundation, which has awarded more than $1.5 million in grants to women founders and nonprofit organizations. Through her leadership, philanthropy, and personal growth journey, Soon continues to encourage people to challenge the boundaries they've placed on themselves, embrace intentional living, and use their success to create opportunities for others. Key Takeaways → What it means to intentionally "edit your life" instead of waiting for life to change around you → Why some of the greatest personal growth happens when everything is already going well → How Soon realized that professional success was taking time away from the people who mattered most → Why hearing a troubling statistic about young girls' mental health became a turning point in Soon's life → How her experience growing up with hardworking immigrant parents influenced her decision to be more present for her daughter → Why the sacrifices our parents made can create opportunities and choices they never had → How successful people become comfortable saying yes simply because they can, not because they should → Why stepping away from a demanding corporate role became one of the best decisions Soon ever made → How Soon redesigned her workday to prioritize fitness, wellness, and time with her family → Why defining what a great day looks like can help us

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Guy Winch, an internationally renowned psychologist, bestselling author, and leading voice on emotional health, to talk about something so many high performers struggle with: how to stop working when the workday is over. Guy's latest book, Mind Over Grind: How to Break Free When Work Hijacks Your Life, challenges the way we think about ambition, burnout, success, and work-life balance. We start with a question that I think a lot of successful people can relate to: What happens when your life has moved beyond survival mode, but your mind is still operating like you're fighting to survive? Guy shares his own experience of spending years in financial survival mode, eventually achieving the career he had worked so hard to build, and then realizing he was completely burned out and miserable. His circumstances had changed, but his mindset hadn't. Our conversation explores why so many ambitious people struggle to mentally disconnect from work, how professional stress follows us home, and why our spouses and families often feel the consequences of a lifestyle we believe we're building for them. We also talk about the psychology of recovery, why relaxation and recharging are not the same thing, how to create a mental transition between work and home, and why the activities and relationships we abandon in the pursuit of success are often the very things that make life meaningful. This is a conversation about ambition, marriage, emotional connection, identity, energy, and learning how to build a successful career without sacrificing the life we're working so hard to create. About the Guest Dr. Guy Winch is an internationally renowned psychologist, bestselling author, speaker, and leading voice on emotional health. His three TED Talks have been viewed more than 35 million times, and his science-based books have been translated into 30 languages. He is the co-host of the Dear Therapists podcast and has advised organizations including the U.S. and UK governments and global companies. His latest book, Mind Over Grind: How to Break Free When Work Hijacks Your Life, examines the hidden psychological ways work takes over our thoughts, attention, relationships, and personal lives. Drawing on psychological research and his own experiences with burnout, Guy provides practical strategies for developing healthier boundaries, recovering from stress, and maintaining a more fulfilling life outside of work. His work challenges the idea that professional success and personal fulfillment have to compete with one another. Key Takeaways → Why escaping survival mode financially doesn't mean we've escaped it mentally → How a scarcity mindset can linger long after our circumstances improve → Why Guy achieved his professional dream only to realize he was burned out and miserable → How high achievers continue operating at full speed even after the pressure that required it has passed → Why burnout isn't always a sign that we've chosen the wrong career → How ambition can quietly take over our identity, relationships, and personal lives → Why work-life balance is a psychological challenge, not just a time-management problem → Why your workday doesn't actually end when you leave the office or close your laptop → How mentally replaying work problems at home creates what Guy calls unpaid overtime → Why work stress can spill into our marriages and cause our partners to experience symptoms of burnout → How bringing stress home can damage emotional connection, intimacy, and the quality of our relationships → Why we need intentional rituals to transition from work mode into family and personal life → How music, changing clothes, lighting, and other sensory cues can help signal to our brains that the workday is over → Why scheduling personal activities can be just as important as scheduling professional responsibilities → How giving our evenings a purpose helps prevent our minds from returning to work → Why preparing mentally for a vacation should begin several days before leaving → How arriving at a vacation already relaxed can help us enjoy more of the experience → Why maintaining emotional connection is essential for healthy marriages, especially during stressful seasons → How a simple 15-minute walk together can help couples reconnect without discussing work, children, or responsibilities → Why relaxing on the couch and actually recharging our energy are two different things → How excessive screen time and passive relaxation may leave us feeling just as depleted the next day → Why exercise, music, creativity, friendships, and personal hobbies can help restore our energy → How work can slowly strip away important parts of our identities → Why reconnecting with old passions doesn't require a major time commitment → How making hobbies easily accessible increases the likelihood that we'll actually do them → Why meaningful experiences with family and friends are more important than simply accumulating professional achievements → How men often strengthen friendships through shared activities and experiences → Why Guy encourages people to measure a successful year by the memories and relationships they created, not just the goals they achieved at work Closing Thoughts This conversation with Guy reminded me that one of the greatest dangers of success is that we can become so consumed with building a better life that we forget to actually live it. We tell ourselves we're working for our families. We're working to create freedom. We're working to provide opportunities. We're working to build security. We're working to create a future where we can finally enjoy everything we've accomplished. But somewhere along the way, the work itself can become the thing that keeps us from enjoying any of it. What stood out to me most was Guy's reminder that our workday doesn't end when we physically stop working. It ends when our minds finally let go. And if we're sitting at dinner thinking about tomorrow's meeting, lying in bed replaying a difficult conversation, or spending time with our spouse while mentally solving another business problem, we haven't really left work. We're still there. We're just bringing the stress home to the people we love. I also loved the distinction Guy made between relaxing and recharging. Sometimes the very thing we think we need after a difficult day — sitting on the couch and doing nothing — isn't what actually restores us. Sometimes we need to move. Sometimes we need to create. Sometimes we need to reconnect with a friend. Sometimes we need to pick up an old hobby. Sometimes we simply need to remember who we were before our careers became such a large part of our lives. And maybe most importantly, we need to protect the relationships that give all of our achievements meaning. Our marriages need our attention. Our children need our presence. Our friendships need our effort. And our own mental and emotional health needs time to recover. Guy's message isn't about abandoning ambition or settling for less. It's about understanding that high performance should improve our lives, not consume them. Because at the end of the day, when we look back on the years we've lived, we're not going to remember every meeting, every account we closed, or every professional milestone. We're going to remember the people. The vacations. The conversations. The friendships. The moments with our children. The memories we made when we finally put the work down. And that is the kind of success worth building a life around.

In this episode, I sit down with Kamini Ramani, Silicon Valley veteran, leadership thinker, and author of Lotus Leadership: A Modern Playbook of Ancient Wisdom. Kamini's work asks a powerful question: how do we build an ambitious life without letting ambition consume the life we are trying to build? After a 40-year career in Silicon Valley, including time advising iconic founders like Steve Jobs and helping shape strategy for leading venture capital firms, Kamini began exploring a different model of success — one that is more human, sustainable, multidimensional, and deeply rooted in wisdom. In this conversation, we talk about success, ambition, partnership, abundance, leadership, love, curiosity, identity, and the lessons Kamini learned from interviewing accomplished women leaders, many of Indian descent, who have built extraordinary careers without losing sight of family, community, purpose, and personal fulfillment. Kamini explains why success is not just about climbing faster, working harder, or accumulating more status. It is about learning how to embrace dualities: strength and empathy, ambition and family, confidence and humility, individual achievement and community impact. We also talk about what Silicon Valley often gets wrong about success, why abundance must be defined beyond net worth, and why leadership in the age of AI will require more human connection, not less. About the Guest Kamini Ramani is a Silicon Valley veteran, leadership thinker, and author of Lotus Leadership: A Modern Playbook of Ancient Wisdom. Over a 40-year career, she has advised iconic founders including Steve Jobs and helped shape strategy for leading venture capital firms. Today, her work explores how ancient wisdom can offer a more human and sustainable model for modern leadership. Through the stories of accomplished women leaders, Kamini challenges traditional ideas of success and shows how curiosity, authenticity, partnership, abundance, and personal power can help us lead — and live — at a higher level. Her framework in Lotus Leadership draws from ideas including Shiva/Shakti, Saraswati, Parvati, Lakshmi, and Tridevi, helping leaders build what she calls "Life in 3D." Key Takeaways → Why ambition can build a meaningful life, but only if it does not consume the life we are trying to build → Why Kamini believes success requires tapping into our own wisdom → How personal, family, cultural, political, and professional inheritances shape the way we lead → Why sustainable high performance does not require constant acceleration → How relentless achievement can lead to burnout → Why strong leaders need to embrace duality instead of either-or thinking → Why we can be ambitious and empathetic, strong and nurturing, confident and humble → Why many successful women define abundance beyond material wealth → How Kamini's interviews revealed the importance of strong life partnerships → Why many of the women in her book described their life partner as their biggest cheerleader → Why Silicon Valley often defines self-worth through net worth → How the women Kamini interviewed defined abundance through giving back, building teams, uplifting communities, and creating impact → Why conviction matters more than likability → Why younger women need permission to stop choosing between being assertive or compassionate → Why Kamini chose to "lean out" during an important season of motherhood → How slowing down or prioritizing family does not have to derail success → Why curiosity can be more powerful than climbing a traditional career ladder → How taking time away from work can sometimes create the perspective needed for major professional growth → Why women should not wait until they feel 100% qualified before stepping into opportunity → What it means to be "ready enough" → Why Kamini wanted to expand the Indian American success narrative to include powerful women leaders → Why self-promotion can feel uncomfortable, but is often necessary → How promoting your team can become a bridge to promoting yourself → What Kamini learned from working with Steve Jobs about brilliance, belief, and leadership → Why genius and leadership are not always the same thing → Why love belongs in serious conversations about leadership → How human connection becomes even more important in the age of AI → Why every leader is creating a movement, whether they realize it or not → Why Kamini introduced the women in her book by their hobbies instead of their titles → How standing out instead of fitting in can become a powerful leadership advantage Closing Thoughts This conversation with Kamini reminded me that success is not one-dimensional. It is not just a title. It is not just money. It is not just achievement. It is not just status. It is not just how fast we climb. Real success is multidimensional. It includes ambition, but also family. It includes confidence, but also humility. It includes strength, but also empathy. It includes personal achievement, but also community impact. It includes the work we do, but also the life we are building while we do it. Kamini's message is powerful because it challenges the idea that high performance has to come at the cost of our humanity. We do not have to choose between ambition and contentment. We do not have to choose between leadership and love. We do not have to choose between professional success and personal fulfillment. The better path is learning how to hold both. That is what makes Lotus Leadership such an important conversation. It is not about doing less with our lives. It is about building lives with more depth, more wisdom, more connection, and more meaning. Because the goal is not just to rise. The goal is to rise without losing ourselves.

In this episode, I sit down with Alden Mills, former Navy SEAL platoon commander, Inc. 500 CEO, entrepreneur, bestselling author, and one of America's leading voices on high performance and leadership. Alden's story is rooted in a powerful idea: being unstoppable does not mean you never get stopped. It means you learn how to get back up. We talk about the origin of Alden's "Be Unstoppable" philosophy, which began after one of his closest friends became the first Navy SEAL to die in Afghanistan. That loss caused Alden to reflect deeply on the "just in case" letters SEALs write before missions, and eventually led him to start writing letters for his own children — not just to tell them what to do, but to teach them how to live. This conversation goes deep into legacy, fatherhood, leadership, faith, failure, resilience, Navy SEAL training, parenting, and what it means to prepare your children not just to succeed, but to keep going when life knocks them down. We also talk about the difference between leading in special operations and leading in civilian life, why diverse personalities make teams stronger, and why high performers have to learn how to surrender control if they want to build something bigger than themselves. About the Guest Alden Mills is a former Navy SEAL platoon commander, Inc. 500 CEO, entrepreneur, bestselling author, speaker, and leadership expert. After being diagnosed with asthma as a child and told to limit physical activity, Alden went on to become a Division I athlete and Navy SEAL. He later founded Perfect Fitness, growing the company to more than $95 million in sales in just three years. Today, through his books including Be Unstoppable, Unstoppable Teams, and Unstoppable Mindset, Alden teaches people how to break through perceived limitations, lead themselves, build stronger teams, and achieve more than they thought possible. His work is built around helping people turn obstacles into opportunities and develop the mindset, energy, discipline, and leadership required to keep moving forward. Key Takeaways → Why being unstoppable starts with understanding that you will get stopped → How losing a close friend in Afghanistan shaped Alden's view of life, legacy, and fatherhood → What Navy SEAL "just in case" letters taught Alden about saying what matters before it is too late → Why Alden began writing letters and personalized books to his sons → Why legacy should be lived, not just left behind → How writing things down can help clear emotional baggage and create focus → Why confronting mortality can make us more intentional with the life we have → How Alden defines persistence as getting back up after failure → Why Alden tells audiences that he has failed far more than he has succeeded → Why leading in special operations can be easier than leading in civilian life → The leadership difference between giving orders and building buy-in → Why diverse personalities make teams stronger → How surrounding yourself with people who are different from you exposes blind spots → Why leaders have to meet people where they are instead of expecting everyone to think like them → How surrender helps high performers release control and build something bigger → Why Alden believes speaking allows him to serve across industries while seeing the same human struggles everywhere → Why trust, communication, direction, contribution, and ownership matter in every team → How Alden teaches his sons to "turn pro" → The PRO framework: Professional practice daily, Relentless improvement, Own your effort every day → Why belief plus accountability is one of the greatest gifts a parent can give → Why effort matters more than whether you win or lose → How pain, injury, setbacks, and failure can become defining moments in a young person's life → Why parents should not hide struggle, loss, or failure from their children → How sharing your own unstoppable journey can help your children build resilience Closing Thoughts This conversation with Alden reminded me that being unstoppable is not about never breaking. It is about choosing to get back up. Life is going to stop us. Failure is going to stop us. Loss is going to stop us. Injury is going to stop us. Fear is going to stop us. Doubt is going to stop us. But the question is not whether we will get stopped. The question is what we do next. Alden's message is powerful because it applies to every part of life — leadership, parenting, business, faith, family, and personal growth. We all have moments where we feel like we hit a wall. But if we are willing to learn, adjust, surrender, ask for help, build the right team, and keep moving forward, those walls can become part of the story that makes us stronger. What stood out to me most was how deeply Alden connects performance with legacy. He is not just teaching people how to win. He is teaching them how to live in a way that gives others something to stand on. That is what great leaders do. That is what great parents do. That is what great teammates do. They help the people around them believe in something bigger, work harder than they thought they could, and keep going when life gets hard. That is the unstoppable mindset.

In this episode, I sit down with Tim Schurrer, CEO of David Novak Leadership and author of The Secret Society of Success. Tim's work challenges the way so many of us have been taught to think about success. For years, many ambitious people chase recognition, status, attention, achievement, and the spotlight — only to realize that those things do not always lead to fulfillment. Tim and I talk about what it means to redefine success, not by how much attention we receive, but by how much we help others win. We start with sports, rivalries, and the way teams can create connection. But the conversation quickly moves into something much deeper: identity, service, leadership, parenting, recognition, legacy, and why some of the most meaningful work we ever do may happen behind the scenes. Tim shares how he once wanted to be the person in the spotlight, how chasing that version of success left him restless, and how mentors, leaders, and stories like Michael Collins from Apollo 11 helped him see a different path. This is a conversation about connection over comparison, service over status, and what it looks like to build a life where success is measured by the people we help along the way. About the Guest Tim Schurrer is the CEO of David Novak Leadership and the author of The Secret Society of Success. His book challenges the traditional definition of achievement by arguing that true success is measured by how much we help others win. Tim previously spent nearly a decade as COO alongside bestselling author Donald Miller, helping build StoryBrand and Business Made Simple into two of the most influential leadership and business brands in the world. Earlier in his career, Tim held roles at Apple and TOMS, experiences that helped shape his belief that the greatest leaders create significance by elevating the people around them. Today, through his writing, speaking, leadership work, and conversations with world-class leaders, Tim helps ambitious people redefine success through service, impact, and helping others win. Key Takeaways → Why Tim wants his life to be about connection, not separation → How sports, teams, and rivalries can create common ground instead of division → Why identity should not come from your vocation → What it means to bring your identity to your work instead of taking your identity from your work → Why Tim describes himself as "the great inviter" → How comparison can keep us from becoming who we are actually meant to be → Why Tim's early dream of becoming the next John Mayer helped reveal what he was really chasing → How failure can become a doorway into a more honest version of success → Why moving from being a taker to being a giver changed Tim's life → Why success does not always mean walking on the moon → What Michael Collins from Apollo 11 taught Tim about playing a meaningful supporting role → Why helping someone else win can be just as significant as being the person in the spotlight → How parenting requires us to step out of the main character role and help our children launch → Why great leadership is about "we" more than "me" → What Tim has learned from David Novak about recognition, culture, and valuing people → Why leaders cast a shadow and people often copy what the leader models → How David Novak used personal recognition awards to build a culture where people felt seen → Why recognition may seem soft, but can drive very real results → How a simple text of appreciation can change someone's day → Why helping others win should apply at work, at home, and in our everyday interactions → How Tim is applying this mindset through David Novak Leadership, the NFL Accelerator, How Leaders Lead, and Eric Church's Chief Cares work → Why influence should be used to serve more people, not to make more people serve us → Why the real question is not "What can I achieve?" but "Who am I here for?" Closing Thoughts This conversation with Tim reminded me that success is not always found in the spotlight. Sometimes success is found in the assist. It is found in the person who creates the opportunity. The person who makes the introduction. The person who helps someone else get across the finish line. The person who gives credit away. The person who recognizes the work no one else sees. The person who is willing to play the role that helps the team win. So many of us spend years chasing the wrong scoreboard. Titles. Status. Attention. Followers. Recognition. Achievement. But Tim's message is powerful because it invites us to ask a better question. Not, "How do I become more impressive?" But, "Who am I here for?" That question changes everything. It changes how we lead. It changes how we parent. It changes how we build relationships. It changes how we define legacy. It changes how we measure a meaningful life. Because at the end of the day, the people who experience the deepest fulfillment are not always the ones who received the most attention. They are the ones who found a way to serve. They are the ones who helped others win.