Gun Owners Radio

A dad with a carry permit stopped the Bend, Oregon school shooting minutes after it started, and the story left the national news almost as fast. What does that say about gun-free zones, and what would it cost to protect every school? You'll learn how the attack unfolded minute by minute, how a teacher and an armed parent ended it, and why two armed officers at every K-12 school would cost each taxpayer about $254 a year. Michael Schwartz walks through the Silver Rail Elementary attack, which killed three children and a teacher, with Brian Hill of The Complete Combatant, a combatives and armed-citizen trainer with more than 35 years of experience. Brian teaches Pistol Tactician in Alpine, California on November 14 and 15, 2026. Register: https://www.shootingclasses.com/thecompletecombatant/course/?courseId=6248 More from Brian: https://www.thecompletecombatant.com/ Also this week: Malcolm Gladwell told Oprah the Second Amendment was written to protect slave patrols, and Michael checks that against the historical record. A Maine congressional candidate answers a red flag question with a red herring. Brian Aitken of Topple, the ad network built for the gun industry (https://wearetopple.com/), on the New Jersey arrest and 7-year sentence that came from moving his own guns the way the state police told him to. And Stump My Nephew: one bolt-action rifle for everything, which caliber? CHAPTERS 0:00 Judge Benitez on why we have a Bill of Rights 3:00 Welcome, the 20K subscriber dinner, and go vote 10:02 The Bend, Oregon school shooting with Brian Hill 16:43 The teacher who fought back 17:52 The dad with a carry permit who stopped it 31:43 Why the story left the news so fast 35:51 Gun-free zones, armed guards and armed teachers 39:21 What two armed officers at every school would cost 46:19 Brian Hill's Pistol Tactician class in Alpine 49:45 In his own words: the dad who stopped the shooter 52:04 Malcolm Gladwell tells Oprah the Second Amendment was about slavery 1:10:19 A Maine candidate's red herring on red flag laws 1:23:14 Topple: ads for the gun industry, with Brian Aitken 1:34:07 Arrested in New Jersey for moving his own guns 1:54:57 Stump My Nephew: one bolt-action rifle, which caliber? Bearing Arms on Matt Dunlap: https://bearingarms.com/john-petrolino/2026/10/19/congressional-candidate-maine-backtracks-on-red-flag-law-n1234174 New episodes every Sunday. Subscribe and turn on notifications. https://gunownersradio.com #GunOwnersRadio #2A #ConcealedCarry #SelfDefense #GunRights

The Supreme Court hears Viramontes, the assault weapons ban case, on December 2. So what does the other side actually argue? Michael plays an interview with Everytown Law's top Second Amendment litigator and answers her point by point: "weapons of war," the six appeals courts that upheld bans, history and tradition, and a common-use argument that ends up making our case for us. Then Navy veteran Tate Adamiak, sentenced to 20 years after the ATF called his inert replicas and movie props machine guns, on the Sten replica the ATF lab rigged to fire one round, the raid with no warning, and the frozen accounts that left him "too rich" for a public defender. His full, uncut interview is on our channel as a Magnum Show episode. And Kostas Moros of the Second Amendment Foundation on the settlement that ends Contra Costa County's ban on red dots, weapon lights and single-action pistols like the 1911 for CCW holders. Also this week: what the ATF's new NFA guidance does and doesn't mean in California, Alisha on the difference between owning a gun and being ready to use it, Stump My Nephew on the FN Auto-5, and Sam on US v. Miller, the first big NFA case. CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 0:38 What's that ring around a bullet? 1:05 Welcome, and the 20K Celebration Dinner 2:53 Friends of NRA Gun-A-Palooza, October 27 4:29 Inland Empire and Orange County voter guides are up 5:37 A mother and daughter on the San Diego ballot 7:00 The ATF's NFA guidance: what it means in California 8:53 This week on the show 10:27 The assault weapons ban case: what the other side says 26:48 Alisha: owning a gun isn't the same as being ready 28:31 Tate Adamiak: 20 years for replica guns, then a pardon 33:05 A collection of inert replicas 35:41 The Denix Sten the ATF lab forced to fire 37:47 Held at gunpoint on the way to work 40:05 The warrant: a cut-up barrel shroud 43:39 Assets frozen, then too rich for a public defender 48:58 What is a receiver? The rule changed four days after his arrest 51:45 Why did the ATF do it? 55:00 Kostas Moros: red dots, lights and 1911s back in Contra Costa 1:03:26 "It's not the courts, it's elections" 1:06:41 Viramontes on December 2, and what comes next 1:11:52 Stump My Nephew: the FN Auto-5 1:18:09 Sam Lichtman on US v. Miller, the first big NFA case THIS WEEK'S GUESTS Tate Adamiak, Navy veteran, pardoned September 2026 Kostas Moros, Second Amendment Foundation: https://saf.org Sam Lichtman: https://gunownersradio.com/blog MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE 20K Celebration Dinner, Wed Oct 21, 6 PM, Elijah's, Clairemont Mesa. $20: https://gunownersradio.ticketspice.com/20k-celebration-dinner San Diego Gun-A-Palooza (Friends of NRA), Oct 27, 4 PM, BNS Brewing & Distillery, Santee. $20. Voter guides: https://sdcgo.org | https://orangecountygunowners.com | https://inlandempiregunowners.com Alisha Curtin, firearms instructor: https://sandiegoconcealedcarry.com Everytown interview we react to: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/supreme-court-takes-up-assault-weapons-ban-gun-control-attorney-predicts-a-win/vi-AA2dmhn4

At a Nebraska rally, President Trump said "let them take out Los Angeles, let them take out San Diego," and Governor Newsom called him deranged and dangerous. We read the full quote line by line. Michael says it was about gas prices and the media knows it. Dakota agrees on the meaning but says he still owes San Diego an apology. You decide. Then Lee Williams, the Second Amendment Foundation's investigative reporter, on Navy sailor Tate Adamiak. Tate was serving 20 years when Lee took his first call. Lee says he knew in two minutes Tate was innocent. Sixty stories later, Tate walked out with a presidential pardon, and Lee is now working through a list of about 20 more names. Also this week: blank ballots on a road in Alpine. John Petrolino on AMM-Con and GRPC. A dad, two daughters and a stranger at the froyo shop, and what the comment section got wrong about using force. The crew's best president debate, which you get to judge. And Stump My Nephew. CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 3:44 Welcome, and the road to 20,000 subscribers 8:32 San Diego Gun-A-Palooza, October 27 10:05 Blank ballots on the road in Alpine: is it voter fraud? 20:44 Trump's "let them take out San Diego," in context 32:25 Dakota: he still owes San Diego an apology 55:05 Lee Williams: the reporter who got Tate Adamiak out 1:03:37 "I knew in two minutes he was innocent" 1:10:43 The toy Sten they called a machine gun 1:12:16 "The ATF is a predatory agency" 1:16:53 Two years of pressure, and a presidential pardon 1:25:56 20 more names 1:28:14 Lee Williams on journalism and AI 1:42:01 John Petrolino: AMM-Con and GRPC recap 1:59:14 Best president debate: Madison, Roosevelt, Coolidge, Eisenhower 2:26:13 A stranger at the froyo shop: what the dad got right 2:31:56 Pepper spray: between a harsh word and a gun 2:39:41 Pulling a gun to scare someone is brandishing 2:42:21 Don't comment anything you wouldn't show a jury 2:47:35 Stump My Nephew: the Vickers jungle mag THIS WEEK'S GUESTS Lee Williams, The Gun Writer, investigative reporter for the Second Amendment Foundation https://thegunwriter.substack.com https://saf.org Know of a case like Tate's? Lee's cell (call or text): 941-284-8553, or [email protected] John Petrolino, The Pen Patriot https://thepenpatriot.com MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE AMM-Con: https://amm-con.org Gun Rights Policy Conference: https://saf.org/grpc/ Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms: https://ccrkba.org Chuck Haggard Brian and Shelley Hill, The Complete Combatant: https://thecompletecombatant.com San Diego Gun-A-Palooza (Friends of NRA), Oct 27, 4 PM, BNS Brewing & Distillery, Santee. $20. Voter guides: https://sdcgo.org | https://orangecountygunowners.com | https://inlandempiregunowners.com

Gun control groups spent years saying the best gun data didn't count. So a Georgetown professor ran his survey again, addressed the complaints they made, and the numbers came back even worse for them. Amy Swearer of Advancing American Freedom joins us to explain what the 2026 National Firearms Survey found, what was done to the man who ran it, and why 26.4 million Americans owning an AR-15 matters to the Supreme Court in December. Also this week: a Glock is back on the California roster, the ten gun bills Newsom just signed, what it actually costs to carry a gun in San Diego from scratch, Dan Wos on the fake "child gun death" statistic, and the Gun Owners Radio crew's recap of GRPC in Dallas. CHAPTERS 0:00 Dakota named a KUSI Community Champion 4:48 Welcome, and the road to 20,000 subscribers 9:51 Is printing illegal in California? 13:50 IPSC World Shotgun in Corinth, Greece 22:23 Virginia's voluntary "do not sell" gun list 25:34 Amy Swearer: they demanded better data 37:03 What they did to Professor English 40:59 Strict gun laws really do suppress gun ownership 45:12 Hawaii 14.5%, Alabama 47%: the state numbers 52:26 After the interview: 26.4 million AR owners 1:00:04 Dan Wos on GRPC and the "child gun death" statistic 1:18:51 GRPC recap: Judge Benitez's keynote 1:21:49 The ATF director at GRPC 1:35:58 Should the NRA shrink its board? 1:42:52 What self defense costs in California: $1,365.63 1:57:10 Newsom signs 10 new gun laws 2:29:14 A Glock is back on the California roster: 43X CA THIS WEEK'S GUESTS Amy Swearer, Senior Legal Fellow, Advancing American Freedom Her op-ed: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/gun-control-activists-demanded-better-data-what-they-got-surprised-heck-out-them Dan Wos, author of Good Gun Bad Guy and host of The Loaded Mic https://www.loadedmic.com https://www.goodgunbadguy.com MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE 2026 National Firearms Survey, William English, Georgetown University (free on SSRN) Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Rights Policy Conference https://saf.org/grpc/ Not Me CA, self defense training help for women https://notmeca.org Dakota Adelphia and A Girl and A Gun San Diego https://dakotaadelphia.com San Diego County Gun Owners https://sdcgo.org

Dick Heller's name is on the case and he would rather you called it something else. He gave Dakota two hours in a hotel lobby in Washington and told the parts nobody prints. The tenant who turned out to have a trunk full of guns in a city where that was a felony. The postcard sitting in an otherwise empty desk drawer. The form he talked a police officer into signing, which is the only reason he had standing at all. And the four hundred cough drops he handed out on a freezing sidewalk the night before his own Supreme Court argument, without telling a single person in that line who he was. Also this week, the rest of Dakota's Washington trip: her rally speech on why the small seats decide everything, and three Women for Gun Rights state directors on what New York, Maryland and Colorado are doing to gun owners right now. CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open 1:02 GRPC Dallas and the Dakota takeover 4:53 The rally speech: the small seats decide everything 9:54 Lauren Hartnett, New York: the 30 day permit trap 24:42 Charneta Samms, Maryland: On Deck and getting women into competition 35:27 Barb Miller, Colorado: permission to buy a gun 53:24 Dick Heller: "I call it the Scalia decision" 1:02:39 "It's not a kind. It's a trunk full." 1:09:12 The form that gave him standing 1:28:28 The card that stops the argument 1:33:30 400 cough drops and McDonald v. Chicago 1:55:08 Tyler Yzaguirre, Second Amendment Institute THIS WEEK'S GUESTS Dick Heller https://gundude.org https://www.hellerfoundation.org Lauren Hartnett, New York State Director, Women for Gun Rights Athena Defense Training https://athenadefensetraining.com https://www.facebook.com/AthenaDefenseNY Charneta Samms, Maryland Honeybear Tactical https://www.honeybeartactical.com https://www.facebook.com/HoneybearTactical Barb Miller, Colorado State Director, Women for Gun Rights High Calibre Gear [email protected] Tyler Yzaguirre, Executive Director, Second Amendment Institute https://www.sainational.org ORGANIZATIONS MENTIONED Women for Gun Rights https://womenforgunrights.org A Girl and a Gun https://www.agirlandagun.org Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Rights Policy Conference https://saf.org/grpc/