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Kate and Kathleen - A podcast about humans and horses

Author: Kathleen Beckham and KATE SANDEL

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Kathleen Lindley Beckham and Kate Sandel are two women who like to talk about horses. We both work with horses and people one of us in the USA and one in the UK. We are endlessly fascinated about this subject and talk frequently about what's on our minds.

Join us as we share with you conversations we have as friends about a life alongside equine. What does it mean to us and to others, what's in it for the horse? And maybe, just maybe, there may be some of those old lessons for life along the way.

We are bound to invite the odd guest to join us too....


Find out more about us on FB at Ethos Equine (Kathleen) and Soft and Sound (Kate)
Or, visit our websites https://softandsound.org and https://www.ethosequine.com
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Kate & Kathleen. Series 2, Episode 11. Why do we do it? October 11th 2026 This is a Part 2, following on from the last episode in which we discussed choosing this 'Life of Hard' with horses. When our equine friends are so good at breaking our hearts, emptying our bank accounts and sometimes runining our bodies - what is the thing which keeps us going? We really hope you enjoy reminding ourselves of the joy.  We did! If you would like to find out more about us, you can find us here  Kathleen - www.ethosequine.com Kate - www.softandsound.org
Kate and Kathleen - Series 2, Episode 10 How do we make sense of things when they get really hard with horses? In this episode Kate talks about her sadness regarding the ongoing injury of her young horse Rural, and asks Kathleen how she has coped when she has been through the really difficult times with  horses.  We want to reassure listeners that hard times with horses are par for the course, and that you are not alone. You can find us here: Kathleen www.ethosequine.com  Kate www.softandsound.org  
Season 2, Episode 9. With Lee Maclean of Keystone Equine. Humility or Hubris, finding the middle ground.  In this episode we are delighted to welcome back the indomitable Lee Maclean of Keystone Equine. We discuss the challenge of openly sharing your own learning journey, the vulnerablities and insecurities as a trainer and profesisonal, and how on the flipside that can expose you to criticism.  How do we open ourselves up the the reality of a life with horses, where mistakes are made, lessons are learned and humlity must constantly be welcomed -  in a social media world which wants to see perfection and glitter at all costs? We hope you enjoy this conversation and may get something useful from it regarding your own life with horses.  You can find us at : Lee Maclean - Keystone Equine Kathleen Beckham - Ethos Equine Kate Sandel  - Soft and Sound 
Kate & Kathleen, Season 2, Episode 5. Good horsemanship and good biomechanics, part 2 July 2026 In the second part on this topic, we talk about the very common horsemanship practices of lateral flexion and yielding the hind quarters. And how this is done very badly by so many, and why this has become the case. Kathleen shares with us her understanding of what can be done to mitigate this.  Kate also talks a little about what can be missing from a tradition which is very focused on good biomechanics and sometimes doesn't address the horsemanship side of things.  As ever, you can find us here Kathleen  www.ethosequine.com  Kate - www.softandsound.org   
Kate & Kathleen. Season 2, Episode 5. Good horsemanship and Good biomechanics? Part 1 This week we talk about the link between good horsemanship and good biomechanics (or healthy movement, or biotensegrity, or whatever you want to call it). What did we both have to do to further our knowledge about this subject and what do we see our students and their horses struggle with most often? This is just the first look at a huge topic. We will be back next time to talk about where horsremanship may skip a  focus on phsyical wellbeing, and where classical riding might overlook the  foundations.  You can find us here  Kathleen - www.ethosequine.com Kate www.softandsound.org 
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