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Grown to Lead
Grown to Lead
Author: Plum Leadership Group
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Grown To Lead explores the art and science of leadership and how people grow into it over time. Hosted by Lindsay Zubek, Founder of Plum Leadership Group, the podcast features real conversations with leaders, practitioners, and thinkers about what leadership actually looks like in practice. From stepping into people management for the first time to navigating complexity, change, and responsibility, this show focuses on the experiences that shape capable, thoughtful leaders.
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What makes a great leader? Is it business knowledge, operational expertise, or the ability to bring people together?Gregg Patterson spent 34 years as General Manager of The Beach Club before founding Tribal Magic, where he continues to share his passion for leadership through speaking, writing, and education. Known for his infectious energy and enthusiasm, Gregg brings a lifetime of experience and a refreshing perspective on what great leadership really looks like.Gregg and Lindsay explore what it means to lead with purpose, create a sense of community, and balance the business and human sides of leadership. Gregg shares his approach to assessing great leadership, explains why curiosity is one of the most important qualities a leader can possess, and offers practical ways to build stronger relationships through meaningful conversations, reflection, and intentional action.Filled with memorable stories, humor, and practical wisdom, this conversation is a reminder that great leadership is ultimately about people and the impact we have on their lives.
What does it really mean to lead with passion? And how do you build a career and a life that reflect what matters most to you?With more than 30 years of experience in hospitality, nationally recognized speaker, coachultant, and former private club executive Passion Graham knows a thing or two about leadership. In this episode of Grown to Lead, Passion shares the experiences that shaped her leadership philosophy, including why starting over as an entry-level server in the private club industry changed the way she thought about leading people.The conversation explores the difference between managing and leading, the importance of finding purpose in your work, and how curiosity, connection, and genuine care for others can bring out the best in a team.Passion also introduces her leadership framework and challenges the traditional idea of putting service before self. She shares why self-awareness is the starting point for self-care, how the energy we bring into a room affects those around us, and why vulnerability can be one of a leader's greatest strengths.From protecting your energy and staying connected to your purpose to betting on yourself and challenging the limits you've placed on your career, this conversation is full of practical insights for anyone who wants to lead with greater passion and create a career they genuinely love.Because leading others well starts with understanding yourself.
The best service, leadership, and networking all start in the same place: paying attention to the person in front of you.Rachael Freedland, founder and CEO of Best Always Consulting, shares lessons from more than 20 years across luxury hospitality, private clubs, events, marketing, and business development. Her experience has taught her how small details can shape a relationship and make someone feel seen, heard, and remembered.The conversation explores “social exhaustion,” the demands of being “on” all day, and how to protect your energy while building meaningful connections. Rachael shares practical ways to make networking feel more natural, why asking one more question matters, and what she learned when she realized that having a good idea and getting people to listen require different skills.These lessons also apply to leading a team, from understanding how each person wants to be recognized to adapting how you communicate and offer support. A practical conversation about consideration, curiosity, and the everyday choices that strengthen relationships.
Becoming a stronger manager does not always mean adding more to your plate. Sometimes it starts with understanding who you are, what matters to you, and how you want to show up for the people around you.Suken Jain spent 20 years in corporate leadership, including managing an $800 million product portfolio, before moving into coaching and leadership development. After experiencing burnout and realizing how much of his leadership had been shaped by other people’s expectations, he began asking a different question: What would it look like to lead as himself?Suken shares how leaders can reconnect with their values, recognize the strengths they may be overusing, and build the discipline to align their everyday choices with the leader they want to become. He and Lindsay also explore why busyness can get in the way of presence, how different seasons of life require different priorities, and why the skills that made you a successful individual contributor may need to evolve when you begin managing others.At the heart of the conversation is a reminder that showing up as your best self is not about doing everything perfectly. It is about knowing yourself well enough to choose where your attention belongs, trusting what you bring to the table, and continuing to grow from there.
The strongest leaders are not always the ones who move the fastest. Sometimes the most powerful thing a leader can do is pause.Paul McCormick is the General Manager and Superintendent at Fox Meadow Golf and Country Club on Prince Edward Island and the founder of Mindful Island Consulting. After nearly burning himself out earlier in his career, losing his job, and walking away from the golf industry altogether, Paul found mindfulness. When an opportunity brought him back to the industry, he made a decision: he could return to the work, but he could not return to the way he had been working.More than 15 years later, mindfulness has become part of how Paul leads. He shares why being present has very little to do with sitting quietly on a meditation cushion and everything to do with how you listen, respond to conflict, recognize your own limits, and create an environment where people feel seen and supported. He also challenges the grind mentality that can turn long hours into a badge of honor and explains why your job should never become your entire identity.The conversation gets especially practical around leadership under pressure. Paul talks about handling difficult members and customers without taking their behavior personally, protecting employees while maintaining high service standards, creating space for vulnerability without lowering expectations, and learning the difference between reacting and responding.His advice to younger leaders is deceptively simple: get to know yourself. Understand what happens to you under stress. Learn when to pause. Remember that your work is something you do, not who you are. A present moment, as Paul puts it, is only a breath away.








