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Author: Vanessa Leone

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Movement should be about finding and doing what YOU love. Not what you think you ‘should’ be doing!



Welcome to Meant to Move, a podcast dedicated to guiding you towards a holistic approach to health and wellness. A podcast where movement is medicine, and we hold space for you to be the best, worst, happiest and saddest versions of yourself without judgement.



Hosted by Vanessa Leone, a passionate and innovative Movement Therapist and Expert Generalist, this weekly podcast is designed to help you master your body, pain, injury, and illness through slow and steady, meaningful changes.



If you're over the age of 35 and frustrated with the conventional wellness status quo, struggling and bored with the exercise and movement options you have access to, then this podcast is for you. Each episode explores the world of movement therapy, mind-body therapy, and holistic wellness, offering practical tips and inspiring stories to help you integrate mindful movement into your daily life.



From pain management and stress reduction to mood improvement and physical fitness, Vanessa and her plethora of expert guests will explore various therapeutic approaches such as somatic breathwork, alternative movement, group exercise and every imaginable way to find YOUR joy in movement. 



She also debunks common fitness and wellness myths and provides guidance on finding the right movement therapist for your needs.



Join Vanessa as she hosts expert interviews, personal stories, and listener Q&A sessions that will help you develop a deeper body awareness, foster a loving relationship with your body and ultimately discover what makes your body and mind SHINE. 



Whether you're seeking natural health solutions or looking to enhance your cognitive health, Meant to Move is your journey towards a healthier, more balanced life.



Subscribe now and start your path to wellness, one slow and steady step at a time. Let's move towards a better life, together.


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Hard questions in coaching, friends, and relationshipsThis conversation explores how to ask sensitive questions about weight, food, training, and health without triggering shame or defensiveness. Vanessa is joined by Alice Moore and Gee Tual from Peak Movement, and together they unpack how trust, timing, and tone shape whether a hard question opens a useful conversation or shuts it down.In this episode, they focus on how coaches can notice behavioral changes, check in with care, and stay within scope while still being honest. They also discuss how the same questions land differently with clients, friends, partners, and family.Key topicsVanessa introduces the tension around asking about weight gain, weight loss, overtraining, and exercise avoidance, especially when the topic carries emotional baggage.Alice Moore shares that communication should lead every coaching relationship, starting with open check-ins about how a client is feeling mentally, physically, and emotionally.Alice reframes difficult food conversations around fueling the body rather than policing what someone eats, using simple logic to reduce emotional confrontation.Gee Tual adds that coaches should ask how a person feels about their body from the inside, while staying alert to scope boundaries and referring out to nutritionists or psychologists when needed.The group emphasizes that trust is essential before raising hard questions, because a trusted coach can challenge someone without it feeling like judgment.They discuss how defensiveness often shows up when the question touches something the person already knows but does not want to admit.Alice explains her approach of asking enough questions for the client to rationalize the issue themselves, which helps them own the answer and build self-awareness.Gee shares that the real question under the visible behavior is often, “Are you okay?” because changes in training, food, sleep, or hydration can reflect stress, grief, shame, or loneliness.Vanessa raises the challenge of how to pause a hard conversation and revisit it later, instead of forcing an answer while emotions are high.The discussion closes on a broader idea: fitness should be framed as health, longevity, and future capability, not just aesthetics or fat loss.Notable quotes“We are the ally.”“Always be the safe space.”“What’s the drive behind it? Why are they doing or not doing that?”Action itemsStart difficult conversations with curiosity, not accusation.Ask what changed, what the goal is, and whether the behaviour is a one-off or a pattern.Use pauses when emotions are high rather than forcing an immediate response.Focus on health, function, and future wellbeing instead of appearance.Build trust before raising sensitive observations.If the issue may be beyond your scope, refer out early and respectfully.
How Boxing, Movement, and Coaching Changed Kieran Gives’ Approach to FitnessVanessa welcomes coach Kieran Gives for a conversation about his journey from plumbing to personal training—and how boxing and movement shaped the way he coaches. They explore patience, learning through mistakes, in-person feedback, and building strength for everyday life.Kieran shares why training should fit around life, not take it over, and why progress is rarely a straight line. Whether the goal is to box, walk farther, lift with confidence, or keep up with your kids, the conversation is a reminder to train for what matters to you.In this episodeKieran’s path from plumbing to coaching—and how his own fitness journey inspired him to help others.Why training for capability can be more meaningful than focusing only on calories or appearance.How boxing can bring together movement, breath, focus, and a sense of presence.Why in-person coaching offers real-time feedback and helps people learn from mistakes.The value of patience, managing frustration, and accepting that skills take time to develop.How regressions, fundamentals, and adjusting intensity to the day can support steady progress.Why strength training can help people stay capable and independent as they get older.Kieran’s advice for coaches: understand each person’s goals and help them find a realistic path forward.Key takeawaysTrain for a goal that matters in your life.Progress isn’t always linear; returning to the fundamentals is part of learning.Consistency and patience can matter more than short-term intensity.A good coach can offer feedback, realistic expectations, and a path tailored to you.Notable quotes“Random training, random results.”“The body is tremendously complicated, but it can be simplified.”“Long-term consistency is going to get you there.”KIERAN GEEVES PTI became a trainer because I know what it’s like to feel out of shape, move with pain, and not know where to start. Discovering how good it feels to move well, feel strong, and actually enjoy training changed everything for me — and that’s what I help others find too. Over the past six and a half years, I’ve worked with incredible mentors and helped hundreds of people move pain-free, step into the ring for their first boxing fight, and build bodies that can handle whatever life throws at them — from running around with the kids to hiking with friends.My coaching is personal, down-to-earth, and focused on lasting results. I combine boxing, strength, mobility, gymnastics rings, and handstand training to help people move better, build confidence, and find joy in the process. I also love coaching kids in boxing — teaching them coordination, focus, and self-belief through movement sets them up for life. I don’t believe in quick fixes; I believe in building skills, understanding your body, and finding a way to train that you actually look forward to.About Your Host:Vanessa holds a BSc in Sports Science and brings nearly 20 years of experience in the fitness industry. As a respected Movement Therapist, she combines scientific and holistic approaches to deliver high-quality training for both individuals and groups. Driven by a passion for learning and improvement, Vanessa's mission as an expert generalist is to help others find betterment in their lives. Vanessa trains clients and fitness professionals across Australia, consults for Technogym, and is an accomplished presenter at International Fitness Conferences. Her guiding ethos is simple: do things BETTER!
What if the most useful education in your life was not the one that made you look smart, but the one that forced you to rethink yourself? Vanessa Leone traces the courses, mentors, failures, and breakthroughs that shaped her from a perfection-driven science student into a coach who sees movement, behaviour, and the human body in a completely different way.Vanessa takes you inside the moments that changed everything - from chasing a coveted high-performance internship to realising her obsession with perfection was holding her back, from fleeing to Canada to confront anxiety to discovering that real coaching starts when science meets people, not just theory.You'll discover:Why epigenetics changed the way Vanessa thinks about genetics, environment, and what actually shapes your futureHow tools like GymStick, BOSU, aqua training, Zoo, and bodyweight systems opened her eyes to movement beyond machinesWhat fascia, body reading, and hands-on learning revealed about tension, pain, and the stories the body tellsWhy some of the most powerful learning happens in mentorships, retreats, and being challenged in front of people who can critique youHow working with coaches around the world expanded her understanding of movement, culture, and what it means to keep growingVanessa also shares the courses that confirmed what she did not want to do, the mentors who became lifelong influences, and the mindset shift that turned learning into a lifelong expansion rather than a destination. If you are a coach, trainer, health professional, or simply someone who feels stuck in your own growth, this episode is a reminder that the next breakthrough may come from what you are willing to question.This is a reflective, motivating episode for anyone who wants to understand their body better, coach better, or simply stay curious about who they are becoming. Perfect for listeners who love practical wisdom, honest self-reflection, and the kind of learning that changes how you move through the world.Notable quotes“Your genes don't define you. Your environment has way, way, way more control over what happens to you now and in your future.”“The more you can learn about yourself, the more you can accept yourself.”“Your fitness journey is just continuous expansion. There's no end point.”If you’re loving the podcast, please leave a review! Resources:In Sydney? Train with Vanessa in person! Get in touch/Join my mailing list: Website or Instagram.About Your Host:Vanessa holds a BSc in Sports Science and brings nearly 20 years of experience in the fitness industry. As a respected Movement Therapist, she combines scientific and holistic approaches to deliver high-quality training for both individuals and groups. Driven by a passion for learning and improvement, Vanessa's mission as an expert generalist is to help others find betterment in their lives. Vanessa trains clients and fitness professionals across Australia, consults for Technogym, and is an accomplished presenter at International Fitness Conferences. Her guiding ethos is simple: do things BETTER!
Harnessing Resilience: A Conversation with Bart Walsh on Overcoming Challenges and Building Inner StrengthIn this episode, Vanessa Leone hosts motivational speaker Bart Walsh to explore the profound concept of resilience — what it truly means, how to develop it, and why it is essential for overcoming life's challenges. Bart shares his personal journey, insights into mental toughness, and practical strategies to foster resilience in ourselves and others, whether in fitness, work, or life.Main Topics Covered:The nature of resilience: What it is and what it isn’tThe importance of owning problems and dropping the victim mentalityStrategies to build resilience: Mirror exercises and journaling techniquesHow resilience applies to workplace challenges and leadershipThe role of play, vulnerability, and creativity in strengthening mental healthOvercoming fear of looking silly and embracing vulnerability as a pathway to resiliencePersonal stories of overcoming cancer and the significance of ownership and self-awarenessThe connection between movement, physical health, and mental resilienceThe transformative power of forgiveness, love, and kindnessPractical advice for integrating resilience into daily lifeResources & Links:Bart Walsh - Personal WebsiteLinkedInInstagramIn Sydney? Train with Vanessa in person! Get in touch/Join my mailing list: Website or Instagram.About Your Host:Vanessa holds a BSc in Sports Science and brings nearly 20 years of experience in the fitness industry. As a respected Movement Therapist, she combines scientific and holistic approaches to deliver high-quality training for both individuals and groups. Driven by a passion for learning and improvement, Vanessa's mission as an expert generalist is to help others find betterment in their lives. Vanessa trains clients and fitness professionals across Australia, consults for Technogym, and is an accomplished presenter at International Fitness Conferences. Her guiding ethos is simple: do things BETTER!Remember: Resilience is built through daily actions, vulnerability, and ownership of your journey. Embrace the discomfort, and you'll uncover your true strength.
The round table discussion explores the differences in female and male training, challenging gender stereotypes, and addressing gender bias in gym environments. The conversation delves into the biopsychosocial approach to training, the impact of social media on training narratives, and personal experiences with gender bias in gym environments. The speakers discuss the importance of improving gym environments for all and the potential benefits of gendered training spaces. The conversation explores the creation of inclusive fitness environments, the training differences for men and women, understanding individual body differences, and empowering through education and understanding.TakeawaysChallenging gender stereotypes in trainingAddressing gender bias in gym environments Inclusive fitness environments require consideration of accessibility, culture, and purpose.Training should be individualized based on the person's goals and outcomes.Understanding individual body differences and providing education and support is crucial for effective training.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Round Table07:23 Gender Bias in Gym Environments16:45 Gender Bias in Gym Environments: Personal Experiences23:01 Creating Inclusive Fitness Environments28:01 Training Differences for Men and Women33:49 Understanding Individual Body Differences41:40 Empowering Through Education and UnderstandingIf you’re loving the podcast, please leave a review! Resources:In Sydney? Train with Vanessa in person! Get in touch/Join my mailing list: Website or Instagram.Why do men and women respond differently to exercise and metabolism? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2uofkneEbtYWhat stops women from strength training in public gyms? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/R5q83chNAJAWhat makes women more resilient in high-rep interval training? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fBx437USMyMJen Dugard - InstagramDexter Jemuel - InstagramNikki - Instagram Additional Notes: This episode emphasizes the need for systemic change, ongoing industry education, and a holistic approach to client health. Key takeaways recommend asking questions, fostering collaboration, and pushing for credible, accessible healthcare integrated with fitness principles.
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