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LIVE from Black Hat Las Vegas: AI, Nation-States, and the Battlefield That Keeps Changing

2026-08-1249:29

What if the biggest threat to your security team isn't the attacker, it's the model you're relying on to stop them? LIVE from Black Hat Las Vegas, Mo and Madi bring together two cybersecurity authors, Caroline Wong, Chief Strategy Officer at Axari and author of The AI Cybersecurity Handbook, and Allie Mellen, Principal Analyst at Forrester and author of Code War, who wrote very different books that turn out to be arguing the same point. One explains why nations attack the way they do. The oth...

Why Your CISO Shouldn't Be the Department of No

2026-07-2744:01

What if the person whose entire job is risk was the most excited one in the room about AI? That's Mea Clift. While most CISOs are bracing for what could go wrong, she's leaning in, she calls it being "risk excited," and it flips the whole conversation. She and Mo get into saying yes to AI without letting risk run away from you, how she handles shadow AI without punishing people for being curious, and how she somehow ends up teaching all of this through Marvel and Monsters Inc. 🔗 Podcast: http...

AI in Healthcare: Protecting Patient Data Without Falling Behind

2026-07-1551:23

Your doctor's office knows more about you than almost anyone. So what happens when AI gets its hands on all of it? That's Sandy Dunn's whole job as a healthcare CISO, and her answer is calmer than you'd expect, because the threats aren't new, it's the speed and the blast radius that changed. Which is where she and Mo pick it up, getting into HIPAA as a checkbox that protects no one, why synthetic data beats guarding data you never needed, and what AI does to trust in a field that runs on it. ...

The Former Google Cloud CISO's Take on AI, Agents, and What Comes Next

2026-06-3041:08

Some guests have seen the field from one seat. Phil Venables has seen it from most of them: CISO at Goldman Sachs, the first CISO for Google Cloud, and now a partner at Ballistic Ventures. So when he says what's worth paying attention to in AI security, it's worth a listen. We get into why he's more worried about attackers scaling up than about the flood of new vulnerabilities, what changes when the actor in your environment is an agent instead of a person, and why the smartest move is still ...

AI in Finance: From Money Laundering to Deepfakes

2026-06-1747:14

Mo sits down with Dr. Janet Bastiman, Chief Data Scientist at Napier AI, to talk about why fraud is easier to catch than money laundering, how deepfakes got good enough to fool a finance team out of millions, and why the humans who oversee AI matter more than ever. 🔗 Podcast: https://alice.io/podcast Follow the show so you don’t miss the next episode. New episodes every two weeks. Stay curious.

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