Meta-Conscious Leaders

What changes when leaders recognise that they are not separate individuals competing within a mechanistic world, but expressions of a deeper, intelligent field of consciousness?In this second conversation on Meta-Conscious Leaders, Tom Fortes Mayer describes reality through the metaphor of the ocean and the wave. Each of us is distinct, yet never separate from the greater whole: “We are of the field of oneness. We are of that intelligence, and we can tune into that.”For Tom, this is more than a spiritual philosophy. It informs his practical work with entrepreneurs and business leaders, helping them recognise the unconscious conditioning that shapes their decisions, relationships and organisations.His provocatively titled new book, *Don’t F*ck Up Your Life*, explores the survival rules formed in childhood that can lead even highly intelligent and successful people to undermine what they consciously want to create.Tom argues that these patterns cannot be overcome through greater discipline, achievement or an internal war against ourselves. They need to be understood, met with compassion and reintegrated.When leaders undertake this work, their leadership begins to emerge from a different inner ground: less driven by fear, inadequacy and the need for recognition, and increasingly shaped by presence, truth, love and joy.Greg and Tom explore how leaders can recalibrate their practice by listening more deeply to the unconscious, discerning between egoic impulse and what is genuinely seeking to emerge, and sensing whether a decision carries contraction or expansion.Who is Tom Fortes Mayer?Tom Fortes Mayer is a therapist, author, speaker, adviser to company boards and creator of the FreeMind Process.In his twenties, Tom underwent a life-changing awakening experience of happiness, connection and oneness that overturned his previously sceptical view of spirituality and set him on a lifelong exploration of the human condition and transformation.Today, he works with entrepreneurs, senior leaders and organisations to uncover the unconscious motivations operating beneath behaviour and decision-making. His approach combines psychology, behavioural science, spiritual insight, intention, music and direct work with the unconscious.This conversation follows Tom’s previous appearance on Meta-Conscious Leaders, in which he shared his transformative epiphany and his framework of peace, power and purpose.Further information:Tom Fortes Mayer: https://www.tomfortesmayer.comThe Freedom organisation: https://www.thefreedom.coDon’t F*ck Up Your Life: https://www.thefreedom.co/dfuyl/Tom Fortes Mayer on LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/tomfortesmayerTom’s previous conversation on Meta-Conscious Leaders: Epiphany & Leadership: https://youtu.be/dRzOBiCqzJ8Chapter headings00:00 – Opening reflections: consciousness and leadership 00:38 – Welcome and introduction 02:26 – Tom’s life-changing awakening 03:20 – Why Tom wrote *Don’t F*ck Up Your Life* 07:13 – How childhood survival rules become embedded 12:03 – Can we really mess up our lives? 17:13 – Avoiding the truth and missing full self-expression 19:47 – How self-sabotage appears in senior leadership 23:03 – The curse of the genius leader 28:14 – Inexplicable decisions, identity and destructive behaviour 32:15 – The ego, the soul and the body as battleground 35:10 – Intention and the genius of the unconscious 46:11 – Consciousness, matter and the field of oneness 49:45 – Leading from the core values of truth and love 55:19 – Awakening, purpose and presence 57:11 – Emergent leadership and discerning what is being called for 1:04:21 – From self-sabotage to self-stewardship 1:08:03 – Meeting the inner saboteur with compassion #MetaConsciousLeaders #ConsciousLeadership #Leadership #FieldOfOneness #Consciousness #SelfSabotage #SelfStewardship #Purpose #PersonalTransformation #BusinessLeadership #TomFortesMayer

Dr Roz Savage MBE MP has lived an extraordinary life: management consultant, world-record-breaking ocean rower, environmental campaigner, author, thinker — and now Member of Parliament, UK.She is the first and still the only woman to row solo across the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian Oceans. But this conversation is not really about rowing.It is about what those experiences revealed: courage, solitude, failure, intuition, consciousness, purpose — and what leadership looks like when a life is placed in service of something larger than oneself.At Meta-Conscious Leaders we seek out remarkable people whose lived experience challenges conventional assumptions about who we are, how reality works, and what leadership is now being asked to become. Roz is an extraordinary exemplar: blending philosophical and spiritual inquiry with practical action and service.Greg Suart explores with Roz, being alone versus being lonely; the inner critic; fear and courage; trusting head, heart and gut; positive tipping points; and whether today’s crises are symptoms of a deeper crisis of worldview and disconnection.Roz also describes a profound unitive experience in the Pacific— feeling both utterly insignificant and completely connected— and reflects on the writings of Aldous Huxley, Bernardo Kastrup and Donald Hoffman.A defining moment comes when she recalls the obituary exercise that changed her life. Looking back, she describes it as though she had asked her soul:**“What did you come here for?”**The answer gave her a different North Star — away from material success alone and towards learning, evolution, contribution and higher purpose.IN THIS CONVERSATION• Courage without fearlessness • Executive loneliness and resourceful solitude • Failure as learning • Head, heart and gut in decision-making • Purpose as a North Star • Worldview, consciousness and interconnectedness • Leadership as service to a higher good QUOTE RE COMMITMENT"Until one is committed there is hesitancy, the chance to draw back, always ineffectiveness."Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation) there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: That the moment one definitely commits oneself then Providence moves too. "All sorts of things occur to help one that would never have otherwise occurred. A whole stream of events issues from the decision raising in one's favour all manner of unforeseen incidents and meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way. I have learned a deep respect for one of Goethe's couplets: "'Whatever you can do or dream you can begin it, Boldness has genius, power and magic in it."W. H, Murray, Scottish Himalaya expeditionFURTHER INFORMATIONRoz Savage and ocean rowing & books: https://www.rozsavage.com/Roz Savage as MP for South Cotswolds, UK: https://rozsavagemp.uk/ Tough Girl Podcast: https://toughgirlchallenges.libsyn.com/tough-girl-roz-savage-mbe-first-woman-ever-to-row-solo-across-3-oceans-the-atlantic-pacific-indianOcean River Institute: https://www.oceanriver.org/podcast/11-roz-savage-paddling-the-pacific-ocean-rowing-towards-a-greener-world/CHAPTERS0:00 What did you come here for? 03:01 From business to a different way of navigating 06:57 The calling to row the oceans 12:03 A unitive experience in the Pacific 17:10 Alone vs lonely 24:31 The polycrisis 37:01 Worldview and materialism 45:02 Ocean experience into leadership 51:29 Executive loneliness and solitude 57:49 Courage, fear and decisions 1:01:27 Purpose as the North Star 1:04:44 “I asked my soul what it came here for” 1:10:20 A message to emerging leaders#MetaConsciousLeaders #RozSavage #Leadership #ConsciousLeadership #Purpose #Consciousness #OceanRowing #HigherPurpose

A Master’s Programme for Leading Through ChangeAI can give leaders more answers than ever. But without clarity, purpose and awareness, more answers can simply create more noise.In this conversation, Greg Suart is joined by Peter Matthies, founder of the Conscious Business Institute, and Carlos Sarmiento, Culture, Diversity & Inclusion Director at SLB.Together, they explore why meaningful transformation begins within: through self-awareness, presence, purpose and the ability to reflect rather than simply react.Carlos shares how these principles can be applied within the realities of a complex global organisation, while Peter introduces four levels of working with AI—moving beyond efficiency towards purpose, human flourishing and wisdom.Their central message is clear: AI should serve consciously chosen human purposes, not quietly determine those purposes for us.================================================🌱🌈CBI Masters Conscious Business programme🌱🌈I strongly recommend exploring the Conscious Business Master Program. It offers far more than another set of leadership tools: it is an opportunity to deepen self-awareness, clarify purpose and translate personal development into greater trust, stronger relationships and lasting organisational change. For leaders seeking to navigate the age of AI with humanity, wisdom and conscious intent, it offers a timely and important pathway.Conscious Business Master Program: https://consciousbusinessinstitute.com/master-program/================================================FOR FURTHER INFORMATION:Conscious Business Master Program: https://consciousbusinessinstitute.com/master-program/Conscious Business Institute: https://consciousbusinessinstitute.com/Peter Matthies on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-matthiesCarlos Sarmiento on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlos-dar%C3%ADo-sarmiento-rivadeneira-8080a26SLB: https://www.slb.com/KEY TAKEAWAYS- Sustainable change begins with consciousness—not simply new behaviours or processes.- Conscious leaders create space to reflect, act from purpose and consider a wider circle of relationships.- Culture is shaped by what leaders embody, encourage, reward and tolerate.- AI accelerates the culture already present. Without awareness, it can amplify overwhelm, disconnection and short-term thinking.- Used with purpose and discernment, AI can become a mirror, partner and amplifier of human potential.- The capacity to bring together different perspectives and build collective intelligence will be increasingly important.CHAPTERS00:00 Opening reflections00:57 Introduction03:00 Carlos’s journey towards conscious leadership08:28 Peter’s personal quest and the founding of CBI11:50 What conscious leadership means18:48 Why traditional leadership formulas no longer fit20:39 Culture, trust and the leader’s example23:52 The Conscious Business Master Program31:49 Applying the principles within SLB44:29 AI, efficiency and the risk of over-optimisation47:22 Four levels of leading with AI57:21 From personal change to organisational impact59:40 What conscious business makes possible1:02:53 Leading with head, heart and guts1:05:24 An invitation to commercially minded leaders#ConsciousLeadership #ConsciousBusiness #AILeadership #HumanCentredAI #SelfAwareness #CollectiveIntelligence #OrganisationalCulture #PurposeDrivenLeadership #FutureOfLeadership

Dr Victoria Hurth is one of the clearest and most determined advocates I have encountered for change that is not cosmetic, incremental or confined to business – but fundamental, systemic and grounded in how we govern ourselves, our organisations and our economies.In this powerful conversation, Victoria argues that many of the crises we face are not failures of intention so much as failures of the decision-making systems we have built. If financial self-interest remains the organising logic, sustainability efforts risk becoming little more than sticking plasters.Her alternative is Purpose Governance: aligning decisions at every level with long-term wellbeing for all.We explore the central thesis of her book Beyond Profit (which she co-authored with Ben Renshaw and Lorenzo Fioramonti) - the shift from Logic 1 to Logic 3, the relationship between macro, meso and micro change, the role of ISO 37000 and the emerging ISO 37011, and why worldview, philosophy and even Stoicism matter to leadership.This is a conversation about changing the architecture beneath the system – not simply improving the outcomes it currently produces.FOR MORE INFORMATIONDr Victoria Hurth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-victoria-hurth/LI Group ISO 37011: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13091442/ LI Group Beyond Profit: Purpose-Driven Leadership for a Wellbeing Economy https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13085230/British Standard PAS 808:2022: https://knowledge.bsigroup.com/products/purpose-driven-organizations-worldviews-principles-and-behaviours-for-delivering-sustainability-guideUnleashing Culture paper for CISL: https://www.cisl.cam.ac.uk/resources/unleashing-sustainable-businessBSI Post (public consultation 28th Sep: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-purpose-driven-ugcPost-7495085278370586624-UH0n/KEY TAKEAWAYS Why financial self-interest has become embedded in modern decision-makingWhy ESG and “enlightened self-interest” may still fall shortHow Purpose Governance can reshape organisations from the inside outWhy governance applies not only to institutions, but to ourselvesHow worldview and Stoicism influence the way leaders choose and actWhy ISO 37011 could become an important framework for purpose-driven organisations.CHAPTERS00:00 Why our decision-making systems are failing01:10 Introduction03:51 Victoria’s story – purpose and service13:23 Why Beyond Profit?18:26 Logic 1, Logic 2 and Logic 346:56 Macro, meso, micro – and Purpose Governance56:32 ISO 37000, PAS 808 and ISO 370111:10:53 Worldviews and leadership1:19:54 Stoicism and self-governance1:26:38 Purpose, culture and leadership in a VUCA world1:33:01 Final reflections – purpose and curiosity#PurposeGovernance #PurposeDrivenLeadership #WellbeingEconomy #Governance #SystemsChange #ConsciousLeadership #BeyondProfit #MetaConsciousLeaders

Anthropy - A Living Laboratory for Collective Intelligence.What happens when more than 2,000 leaders from business, government, education, academia, the arts, charities and civil society leave their titles - and their sector silos - at the door?Lucy Knill is CEO of Anthropy, the UK’s largest gathering of future makers. After 25 years in events and communications, Covid brought home to her the irreplaceable power of human connection—and strengthened her resolve to put that experience to more purposeful use. An introduction to Anthropy founder John O’Brien, and a childhood connection with Eden Project co-founder Sir Tim Smit, brought her journey full circle.In this conversation, Lucy describes Anthropy as a place where diverse perspectives meet, challenge one another and create possibilities that no single discipline could reach alone: a living laboratory for collective intelligence.We explore whether inspiring conversations can translate into meaningful change; why leadership is shifting from control and ego towards stewardship, responsibility and kindness; and why business leaders have an exceptional opportunity to help rebuild trust. Lucy also explains Anthropy’s four lenses - People, Place, Prosperity and Global Perspective - and its framework for moving from individual agency to collective impact.FOR MORE INFORMATIONAnthropy: https://anthropy.uk/EARLY BIRD TICKETS FOR Anthropy27 - Sept only: https://anthropy.uk/national-gathering/Book directly: https://eu.launchpad.swapcard.com/Anthropy27/registrations/Start2026 Edelman Trust Barometer: https://www.edelman.com/trust/2026/trust-barometerAnthropy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/anthropy-uk/Lucy Knill on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucy-knill-7060b24/HIGHLIGHTS* Lucy’s unexpected path from the events industry to purpose-led leadership* How Anthropy turns cross-sector dialogue into connection, collaboration and action* The trust deficit - and why employers and CEOs carry growing responsibility* Stewardship, honest communication and emerging leaders* Why competence and kindness must work together* Profit as the oxygen of business, rather than its purpose* Small actions, multiplied: “What can you do? Do it.”CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction: why collective intelligence matters03:45 Lucy’s path to Anthropy14:00 Synchronicity, agency and purpose19:38 What future are we trying to build?22:13 Anthropy’s four questions26:17 Trust, purpose and business responsibility31:20 Leadership as stewardship34:37 From conversation to practical change44:35 The Eden Project: where connection becomes action47:15 Emerging leaders and multigenerational wisdom50:18 Anthropy27: an invitation to take part52:43 Hope, concern and inspiration1:00:16 Advice for purpose-led entrepreneurs1:02:29 Small actions, big change#Anthropy #Anthropy27 #CollectiveIntelligence #Leadership #ConsciousLeadership #PurposeDrivenLeadership #Stewardship #Trust #BusinessForGood #FutureOfBritain