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Join award-winning financial journalist Maya Fisher-French and renowned personal finance expert Mapalo Makhu for real, unfiltered conversations in a podcast that explores how culture shapes our relationship with money. From celebrating life’s milestones to honouring those we’ve lost, from beauty treatments to raising children – all these come with financial decisions that matter. This podcast unpacks the real cost of living while building financial wellness that honours who we are, powered by GoTyme Bank. New episodes are released every second Wednesday, right here on News24.
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In this episode of Money: It’s Not Black or White, Maya Fisher-French and Mapalo Makhu ask: Is art a legitimate financial asset, expensive home décor or something far more profound? This series is brought to you by GoTyme Bank.
As parents, Mapalo and I often talk about wanting to give our children a better life than we had. But the biggest challenge is ensuring that the next generation doesn’t lose its financial discipline, drive and resilience along the way. Cheslyn Jacobs – who worked his way up from the ground floor to CEO of GoTyme Bank – shared his personal framework for navigating this space with his own kids. This series is brought to you by GoTyme Bank. Fresh episodes drop every second Wednesday.
In our latest episode of Money: It’s Not Black or White, my co-host Mapalo Makhu and I tackled a likely relatable question: Why do we feel broke? No matter how much we earn, there is a pervasive feeling that it simply is never enough. But are we genuinely poorer than previous generations, or have our lifestyle expectations just gone through the roof? To get a baseline, we took to the streets to ask ordinary South Africans whether they think we spend more recklessly today. The consensus was a resounding yes – from relying on convenient delivery apps like Uber Eats to prioritising new cars over investment portfolios. This series is brought to you by GoTyme Bank, with fresh episodes released every second Wednesday morning.
The side hustle is plastered all over social media, self-help books, and career advice columns: Your 9-to-5 is no longer enough, and everybody must hustle on the side to stay ahead. But in our latest episode of “Money: It’s Not Black or White”, my co-host Mapalo Makhu and I wanted to unpack this myth with accountant and business coach Alison Burnell. Is launching a side business truly the holy grail of financial freedom, or is it a fast track to burnout and unexpected tax debt? Watch the episode on YouTube, or scroll to the podcast links below the article. This series is brought to you by GoTyme Bank.
In this episode of Money: It’s Not Black or White, my co-host Mapalo Makhu and I had the opportunity of sitting down with GIBS Professor Frank Magwegwe to discuss his new book, Reclaiming Dignity: My Journey from Homelessness to University. Beyond a narrative of personal resilience, Frank’s story offers a profound masterclass in financial psychology, human empathy, and personal transformation. I have known Frank Magwegwe for over a decade, and what has always struck me is his humility and interest in people. He has an amazing story to tell, yet he finds other people’s stories equally interesting. Although both Mapalo and I knew Frank’s story, it was only by reading his book that we understood the power of gratitude in turning around his fortunes – and it is a lesson I believe we could all learn from. During our podcast discussion, we got to ask Frank about this turning point, the impact financial trauma still has on him today and how he pays it forward. Watch the episode on YouTube, or scroll to the podcast links below the article. This series is brought to you by GoTyme Bank.
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