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In this episode of People Multiple, host Gia Ganesh sits down with Melanie Lougee, Chief Product Officer at NovaWorks, to explore how AI-native HR technology is reshaping workforce management, business operations, and the future of human capital strategy.With more than 25 years of experience in HR technology, including leadership roles at Gartner, ServiceNow, and Workday, Melanie has witnessed the evolution of HR systems from traditional enterprise software to cloud-based platforms. Now, at NovaWorks, she is helping build a new generation of core HR technology designed around AI agents, intelligent automation, and the changing needs of businesses.Melanie explains what it means to manage employees, contractors, and AI agents within a unified workforce system. While AI agents are not employees, they increasingly perform tasks that affect business operations. This raises important questions about accountability, governance, data access, compliance, and the responsibilities of HR and technology leaders.Learn more about Melanie Lougee:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melanielougeeThe discussion also tackles questions…-How is artificial intelligence transforming HR technology and workforce management?-What is an AI-native HR system, and how does it differ from traditional HR software?-How can organizations manage employees, contractors, and AI agents within one workforce management platform?-What does it mean to onboard an AI agent into an organization's workforce system?-Should AI agents be treated as employees, digital workers, or business tools?How should companies establish accountability and governance for AI agents?-Who should be responsible for managing AI agents: HR, IT, or individual business departments?-How can organizations maintain human oversight when AI agents recommend or automate business processes?-What security and data privacy considerations should companies evaluate before deploying AI agents?-How can AI agents improve HR compliance and identify potential policy violations?-How can AI technology help organizations manage complex employment laws and workplace policies?-What are the benefits of integrating AI agents into existing HR workflows?-How can AI-powered HR systems improve visibility into how work gets done?-How should businesses evaluate the costs and return on investment of AI agents?-When should organizations use traditional workflow automation instead of AI agents?-What organizational changes are necessary before implementing AI-native HR technology?Key takeaways:AI-Native HR Technology Is Transforming Workforce Management by Integrating Employees, Contractors, and AI Agents Into Unified Systems.AI Agents Should Support Human Decision-Making Rather Than Replace Human Accountability and Oversight.Successful AI Adoption Requires Organizations to Rethink Workflows, Responsibilities, and Business Processes Before Scaling Automation.AI Governance, Data Security, and Policy Compliance Are Essential for Managing AI Agents Responsibly in the Workplace.HR Technology Investments Deliver Greater ROI When Companies Prioritize Implementation, User Adoption, and Measurable Business Outcomes.Organizations Can Accelerate AI Transformation by Starting With Small Experiments, Evaluating Results, and Expanding Successful Use Cases.AI-Powered HR Systems Can Improve Workforce Visibility, Streamline Cross-Departmental Workflows, and Identify Opportunities for Automation.Successful HR Technology Integration After Mergers and Acquisitions Requires Speed, Flexibility, and Proactive Workforce Alignment.AI Has the Potential to Make HR More Strategic by Improving Workforce Planning, Performance Management, and Business Decision-Making.Every HR Technology Investment Is Ultimately a People Decision That Influences How Work Gets Done and How Organizations Create Business Value.Similar episodes: 70% of Your Work Could Be Automated. What Happens Next?: https://youtu.be/DxJbWCHm2f4?si=lpyyK9CSm2BpIJzxHow to Redesign Work for AI Without Losing the Human Advantage: https://youtu.be/il1i_th6J3Q?si=dWGMG2so-lunoaLiThe Hiring Mistakes That Ruin Company Growth: https://youtu.be/Npz802nzmYQ?si=K-DF1jQW_-qlwntm ProductionProduced by: The AGN GroupHost: Gia Ganesh Producer: Katie HartWebsites: https://peoplemultiple.com/ Social Media Channels:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepeoplemultiple/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thepeoplemultiple LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/people-multiple TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@people.multiple Want to be a Podcast Guest?If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, email us at [email protected] 

In this episode of People Multiple, host Gia Ganesh sits down with Hein Knaapen, a seasoned HR executive with more than 40 years of experience, to explore why organizations struggle to turn ambitious strategies into measurable business results and how leaders can close the gap between talent strategy and value creation.Drawing from his experience at ING, where he led the people agenda for more than 53,000 employees across 45 countries, and decades of working with executive teams and boards, Hein challenges conventional thinking about leadership effectiveness, organizational transformation, and human capital management.Hein explains why focus is often more about deciding what to stop than deciding what to start. From organizations juggling hundreds of strategic initiatives to leadership teams unable to agree on their most critical priorities, he reveals how complexity, competing demands, and unclear accountability can undermine even the strongest value creation plans.Learn more about Hein Knaapen:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/hein-j-m-knaapen-a879289Website: https://www.heinknaapen.com/YouTube: @HeinJ.M.KnaapenThe discussion also tackles questions…Why do so many organizational transformations fail to achieve their intended business outcomes?How can CEOs and CHROs identify the most critical priorities in a value creation plan?Why is strategic focus more about stopping initiatives than starting new ones?How can leadership teams recognize the early warning signs of a failing business transformation?Why do organizations struggle to identify the roles that create the greatest business value?How can companies identify and prioritize critical talent beyond the executive leadership team?Why does top talent often move toward organizational hierarchy instead of business opportunity?How should organizations allocate talent to maximize business performance and value creation?What role should boards play in CEO appointments and strategy execution?How can boards stress-test CEO appointments with the same rigor used for capital investments?What is a CEO mobilization plan, and how can it reduce leadership appointment risks?Why do leadership appointments fail despite a candidate's strong track record?How can private equity firms improve talent due diligence during acquisitions?What are the risks of relying on intuition when making critical executive hiring decisions?How does delaying difficult talent decisions affect business performance?Why do organizations struggle to translate strategic priorities into measurable employee performance?How should performance management evolve from retrospective evaluations to continuous performance improvement?What makes leadership development programs effective at improving organizational performance?Key takeaways:Successful Business Transformation Requires Strategic Focus on the Few Priorities That Create the Most ValueTalent Allocation Should Be Driven by Business Opportunities, Not Organizational HierarchyCritical Roles Outside the Executive Team Often Have the Greatest Impact on Business Value CreationCEO Appointments and Executive Hiring Decisions Deserve the Same Rigorous Risk Assessment as Capital InvestmentsEffective Strategy Execution Depends on Clear Accountability, Measurable Deliverables, and Fewer Competing PrioritiesBoards Must Identify Critical Talent Risks and Establish CEO Mobilization Plans to Support Business PerformanceLeadership Development Programs Deliver Greater Value When They Build Practical Management Skills Aligned With Business StrategyFrontline Manager Effectiveness Plays a Critical Role in Employee Engagement and Organizational PerformanceCEOs, CFOs, and CHROs Must Align Human Capital and Financial Resources With Strategic Business PrioritiesDelaying Difficult Talent Decisions and Overlooking Leadership Risks Can Undermine Long-Term Business SuccessSimilar episodes: Why Great Founders Struggle to Become Great CEOs: https://youtu.be/9nVND7lLGCU?si=D429cHBprFxdJQm5 The Recruiting Engine Every Growth Company Needs: https://youtu.be/s5VW1vR69Qo?si=CzC3DZTwlXOSVhdP The People Strategy Behind a $24 Billion Integration: https://youtu.be/X-friEXJQbA?si=ctRVcVBHwMCNtPv_ ProductionProduced by: The AGN GroupHost: Gia Ganesh Producer: Katie HartWebsites: https://peoplemultiple.com/ Social Media Channels:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepeoplemultiple/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thepeoplemultiple LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/people-multiple TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@people.multiple Want to be a Podcast Guest?If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, email us at [email protected] 

What makes a merger or acquisition successful? The financials may justify the deal, but leadership decisions, cultural alignment, and talent retention often determine whether the expected value is realized.In this episode of People Multiple, host Gia Ganesh sits down with Jillian Moulton, Chief People Officer at Fabric, to explore the hidden people risks behind mergers and acquisitions and why even promising deals can struggle after closing.With experience navigating multiple acquisitions, organizational integrations, and rapid business growth, Jillian shares how strategic talent decisions influence acquisition outcomes. From identifying leadership risks during M&A due diligence to integrating company cultures and retaining high-performing employees, she explains why the people side of an acquisition deserves the same rigor as financial and operational planning.Connect with Jillian Moulton:LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillianmoulton/The discussion also tackles questions…What are the biggest people risks in mergers and acquisitions?Why do some acquisitions fail to deliver their expected business value?How can leadership decisions make or break an acquisition?What should companies evaluate during HR and people due diligence?How can companies successfully integrate different organizational cultures after a merger?Why is the first six months after an acquisition so critical for employee retention?How can high employee retention rates hide problems with post-merger integration?Why do high-performing employees sometimes leave after an acquisition?How can compensation structures reveal cultural differences between merging companies?Which leadership decisions must be finalized before an acquisition closes?Key takeaways:1. Leadership Decisions Can Make or Break an Acquisition 2. Talent Retention Doesn't Always Equal Acquisition Success 3. The First Six Months After an Acquisition Are Critical for Employee Retention 4. Company Culture Should Be Evaluated During M&A Due Diligence5. Successful Post-Merger Integration Doesn't Require Every Company to Operate Identically 6. Compensation Structures Reveal More About Company Culture Than Leaders Realize7. Historical Employee Performance Doesn't Guarantee Future Success After an Acquisition8. AI Adoption Should Be Measured by Business Outcomes, Not Just Usage 9. Leadership Development Is a Long-Term Investment in Organizational Performance10. Consistent Leadership Communication Builds Trust During Organizational ChangeSimilar episodes: The People Decisions That Make or Break M&A: https://youtu.be/wdzKjihV8BI?si=a6yGp2fyt4fAi6uk From Employee #16 to IPO: Lessons Every Growth Leader Should Know: https://youtu.be/4ZVvZpCgEzs?si=gw5vTSyVTrB4h8N6 How One People Leader Increased Employee Retention from 30% to 80%: https://youtu.be/McDXzlcptN8?si=HInmmuhckmXI6wzr ProductionProduced by: The AGN GroupHost: Gia Ganesh Producer: Katie HartWebsites: https://peoplemultiple.com/ Social Media Channels:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepeoplemultiple/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thepeoplemultiple LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/people-multiple TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@people.multiple Want to be a Podcast Guest?If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, email us at [email protected] 

In this episode of People Multiple, Gia Ganesh sits down with seasoned HR executive Jeri Hawthorne to explore why human capital decisions are often harder to connect directly to business performance and how people leaders can build a stronger case for the investments they know matter.Drawing from her experience as CHRO of Aflac and across financial services, energy, insurance, and private equity-backed organizations, Jeri explains why the impact of people decisions often has a long tail. The challenge is not simply proving that people matter. It is identifying the business problem, defining success metrics, understanding the investment, and demonstrating how a human capital solution can improve business outcomes.Jeri shares real examples of turning people initiatives into business solutions. At Aflac, employee wellness programs, on-site healthcare services, childcare, and career development resources helped address challenges such as absenteeism, turnover, employee engagement, and workforce availability. In another organization, a recruiting technology pilot designed to solve hiring bottlenecks ultimately generated nearly half a million dollars in savings while improving time to fill and candidate quality.Learn more about Jeri Hawthorne:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerihawthorneThe discussion also tackles questions…How can HR leaders use low-cost pilots to prove the value of larger people investments?How can HR identify the right business champion for a new people initiative?Why should companies treat employees as a strategic business investment?How can employee retention create a competitive advantage?How can recruiting technology improve time to hire and reduce costs?How should HR measure the ROI of recruiting technology?How is AI changing the way organizations define work?Should companies use AI to replace work or enable employees to work differently?How will AI affect entry-level jobs and early-career development?What is AI-driven skill atrophy, and why should business leaders care about it?Should employee performance be measured by AI adoption as well as output?What human skills will remain important as AI becomes more capable?How should organizations redesign jobs and performance metrics for the age of AI?How should leadership assessments influence executive hiring decisions?Why do companies invest in employee assessments but fail to use the results effectively?How can organizations build stronger internal leadership pipelines?What are the risks of relying too heavily on external executive hiring?What people metrics should CEOs monitor most closely?Why should CEOs focus on turnover among critical talent rather than overall turnover?How should employers evaluate rising healthcare costs and their impact on employees?Should CHROs own AI transformation?How should HR and technology leaders collaborate on AI transformation?How can people decisions influence the success of mergers and acquisitions?How can companies preserve the right culture and talent during an acquisition?Key takeaways:Human Capital Investments Should Be Evaluated With the Same Rigor as Other Business InvestmentsHR Leaders Must Connect People Decisions to Measurable Business OutcomesEmployee Well-Being Investments Can Reduce Absenteeism and Strengthen Workforce PerformanceSmall HR Pilots Can Build the Business Case for Larger Strategic InvestmentsRetaining Critical Talent Creates a Long-Term Competitive AdvantageRecruiting Technology Can Improve Hiring Efficiency, Candidate Quality, and Return on InvestmentAI Should Enable Human Work, Not Simply Replace ItAI Adoption Requires Organizations to Rethink Performance Metrics and Employee DevelopmentPreventing Skill Atrophy Will Become Critical as AI Takes Over Foundational TasksSuccessful Mergers and Acquisitions Require Deliberate Decisions About Talent, Leadership, and CultureSimilar episodes: The People Decisions That Make or Break M&A: https://youtu.be/wdzKjihV8BI?si=rPwpZDQcLdpBtkfsHow One People Leader Increased Employee Retention from 30% to 80%: https://youtu.be/McDXzlcptN8?si=2W-WZkuBrnUxlekO After 45 Acquisitions, These Are the Leadership Red Flags She Never Ignores: https://youtu.be/zRdL7itzrVc?si=KbXjpC9Hta6dcZXs ProductionProduced by: The AGN GroupHost: Gia Ganesh Producer: Katie HartWebsites: https://peoplemultiple.com/ Social Media Channels:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepeoplemultiple/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thepeoplemultiple LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/people-multiple TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@people.multiple Want to be a Podcast Guest?If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, email us at [email protected] 

In this special compilation episode of People Multiple, Gia Ganesh revisits answers to the show’s signature question: What’s a talent decision that changed a business outcome, but no one in the room recognized it as a talent decision at the time?Leaders including Lynee Luque, Steve Schloss, Marty Reaume, Payal Maheswari, Stephanie Bonnet, Michelle Byrd Robinson, Kaja Odegard, and Lynn Herrick reveal how seemingly operational and strategic choices can carry significant talent implications.Together, these stories challenge the artificial divide between people strategy and business strategy. They demonstrate how leadership, organizational design, hiring, talent management, and culture can influence execution and company performance long before the impact becomes obvious in the numbers.Watch the full interviews here:Lynee Luque: https://youtu.be/yXB7-GS0ahE?si=1mXYgYIwIX6d_rKB Steve Schloss: https://youtu.be/9nVND7lLGCU?si=mzsQgtQ0VzIH9_-B Marty Reaume: https://youtu.be/zRdL7itzrVc?si=UqWyBkYjexXAXxpn Payal Maheswari: https://youtu.be/Wx35nZdJSXc?si=yOkKm-nYzNFs3K35 Stephanie Bonnet: https://youtu.be/McDXzlcptN8?si=wvhUjqAtg8E2qbGt Michelle Byrd Robinson: https://youtu.be/s5VW1vR69Qo?si=R9sIJFqHbbakZ1XS Kaja Odegard: https://youtu.be/4ZVvZpCgEzs?si=rATsohc9ed0wwZJi Lynn Herricks: https://youtu.be/wdzKjihV8BI?si=dEhjc7AeRbzuYvvJ The discussion also tackles questions…What talent decisions have the greatest impact on business performance?How can an operational decision become a talent strategy decision?How do decision rights and ownership affect organizational speed?Are talent outcomes and business outcomes really separate?How do you decide who should lead the next stage of company growth?When should a founder or early employee transition out of a growing company?How can leaders handle an employee who is no longer the right fit for the company’s stage?How does remote work affect a company’s ability to recruit talent?What happens when leaders trust someone without traditional subject-matter expertise to lead a critical initiative?How can one strategic hire influence company culture beyond the role itself?How do hiring decisions affect representation and leadership opportunities?How can people strategy serve as an early indicator of business performance?Key takeaways:Talent decisions are business decisions, even when they are not labeled that way. Choices involving leadership, organizational structure, workplace strategy, hiring, and decision-making authority can have lasting effects on business performance.Operational decisions can quietly reshape a company’s talent strategy. Lynee Luque’s experience shows how a real estate decision ultimately expanded access to talent beyond San Francisco and enabled a distributed workforce.Clear decision rights can improve organizational speed and execution. Kaja Odegard explains how clarifying ownership and involvement helped unlock greater velocity, even though the underlying challenge was not initially viewed as a people issue.People strategy and business strategy should not operate as separate functions. Michelle Byrd Robinson argues that talent outcomes and business outcomes are interconnected, with major people initiatives aligned directly to organizational objectives.Choosing who leads the next stage of growth is one of a company’s most consequential talent decisions. Marty Reaume highlights leadership selection during scaling, transformation, and M&A integration as a people decision with significant business implications.Leadership potential is not always defined by subject-matter expertise. Steve Schloss’s experience with the U.S. Open demonstrates how organizations may create better outcomes by identifying the person with the right skills to facilitate a critical process, rather than simply choosing the obvious expert.The talent that helps build a startup may not always be the talent it needs to scale. Payal Maheswari discusses the difficult reality that an early employee’s skills or working style may no longer fit as the organization evolves.Managing employee transitions with respect can protect both people and the business. When someone no longer fits the company’s stage, leaders can acknowledge that person’s contribution while helping them separate their identity from the organization and move toward what comes next.One strategic hire can influence company culture far beyond a single role. Stephanie Bonnet describes how hiring a woman into a male-dominated engineering environment generated greater excitement around representation and influenced leadership’s approach to future hiring.The full impact of a hiring decision may not be measurable on a spreadsheet. Lynn Herrick’s decision to hire the best candidate while she was eight months pregnant ultimately changed how women within the company viewed leadership, family, and their own opportunities, even though Lynn could not draw a direct line from that decision to financial ROI.ProductionProduced by: The AGN GroupHost: Gia Ganesh Producer: Katie HartWebsites: https://peoplemultiple.com/ Social Media Channels:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepeoplemultiple/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thepeoplemultiple LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/people-multiple TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@people.multiple Want to be a Podcast Guest?If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, email us at [email protected]