Award-winning dark fiction author Rachel Horak Dempsey sits down with host KJ Brantley to talk about her debut novella, PNOKO, a terrifying techno-horror retelling of Pinocchio in which the puppet is a machine-human hybrid and some strings were never meant to be cut. Rachel discusses transforming the familiar fairy tale into a story about artificial intelligence, toxic masculinity, intergenerational trauma, empathy, and the complicated legacies passed from creators to their creations.Rachel and KJ explore how motherhood, a later-in-life neurodivergence diagnosis, and Rachel’s experience recovering from a stroke shaped the characters and emotional core of PNOKO. They discuss feeling othered, learning to stop apologizing for being “too much,” and why empathy must be modeled and taught, whether the child in question is made of flesh or circuitry. They also consider the human consequences of rapidly developing technology, the exploitation of artists, and the danger of building artificial intelligence from the biases and toxicity already present in society.The conversation turns to women’s contributions to horror, including the power of community over hierarchy, protection over domination, and stories that challenge the idea that “might makes right.” Rachel shares how early criticism of her “nasty” female characters and psychologically dark writing ultimately pushed her to embrace horror more fully. She also offers an unforgettable message for women and marginalized writers who fear being judged, misunderstood, or kept outside the gates: take off the mask, write the story, and “be the biggest, baddest horror bitch that you can be.”Rachel Horak Dempsey’s Uncanny Women Podcast Book Picks:It Came from Neverland by Cynthia PelayoHeadlights by CJ LeedeThe Night Parade by Stephanie FeldmanSaturnalia by Stephanie FeldmanJackal by Erin E. AdamsOne of Us by Erin E. AdamsBooks Written by Rachel Horak Dempsey Mentioned in This Episode:PNOKOOther Authors Mentioned in This Episode:R.L. StineCaroline B. CooneyConnect with Rachel Horak Dempsey:Instagram: @rachelsdempseyFacebook: Rachel Horak DempseyWebsite: rachelhorakdempsey.comRocky Mountain Fiction Writers Blog: rmfw.org/blogAbout the Host, KJ Brantley:KJ Brantley is an Indigenous-mixed, autistic horror and dark fiction author whose work explores motherhood, feminism, identity, neurodivergence, trauma, and psychological horror. Drawn to the intersection of entertainment and social commentary, she crafts stories that are both unsettling and emotionally resonant. She is the host of Uncanny Women Podcast and founder and organizer of the SoCo Women in Horror Fest. She is currently the President of the Women in Horror Arts and Media Association and co-owner of Broom Book & Candle Horror and Dark Literature Bookstore, Cafe, and Bar in Denver. KJ lives in Colorado with her husband, two toddlers, and an ever-growing stack of spooky books.Follow KJ on IG and Threads at @uncannywomenpodcast and @authorkjbrantleyLearn more at WomenInHorrorFestival.com and BroomBookCandle.com.