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Off the Record Ecommerce
Off the Record Ecommerce
Author: Leighton Taylor & Patrick Rice
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Insider conversations about how to grow an ecommerce brand on Shopify. From marketing and conversion strategy to operations and scaling, Leighton Taylor and Patrick Rice share what's working now and what isn't.
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Email marketing specialist Mel Driver breaks down the Klaviyo flows every Shopify store needs, the open and click-through rates worth aiming for, and how often to email your list. She also covers segmentation, selling subscriptions, cashback loyalty, SMS, and the most common Klaviyo account mistakes.
Links Mentioned
Mel Driver: https://meldriver.co
Klaviyo: https://www.klaviyo.com
Redeemly (affiliate link): https://apps.shopify.com/cashback-redeemly?sref=rl_QMs4GlR5
Watch This Episode on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTyGr9-LHBo
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:32 From Skincare Brand to Klaviyo
4:43 Core Flows Every Store Needs
7:21 Anniversary and Birthday Flows
10:18 Why Mel Skips Split Tests
11:40 Open and Click-Through Benchmarks
13:30 Campaigns and Engaged Segments
16:41 How Often to Email Your List
17:18 Writing Emails People Open
21:20 How to Think About Unsubscribes
22:59 Selling Subscriptions With Email
25:33 Cashback vs. Points Loyalty
28:12 Segments Worth Building
29:49 Where SMS Fits
31:03 Common Klaviyo Account Mistakes
34:56 Flows Based on Purchases
37:12 Wrapping Up
Book a Call
Book a Call with Patrick: https://calendly.com/patrickriceco/strategy-call
Book a Call with Leighton: https://cal.com/leightontaylor/discovery-call?utm_source=podcast
Work with Us
Work with Patrick (SEO and Google Ads): https://patrickriceco.com/
Work with Leighton (Shopify Store Builds, Migrations, & Ongoing Support): https://envision.io
You may notice that our content sometimes includes affiliate links or sponsored content. We may receive compensation for this type of content, which supports the work we do at no cost to you.
One Shopify store we work with had more than 65% of its traffic coming from bots, and it's a growing problem that skews analytics, burns through app credits, and can even lead to a cloned copy of your store. Leighton Taylor and Dave Tanguay break down how they fight Shopify bot traffic with Cloudflare O2O, AI-written security rules, and ongoing monitoring for clone sites.
Links Mentioned
Blockify Fraud Filter & Blocker (Shopify app): https://apps.shopify.com/blockify
Boxify (shipping rate calculator for Shopify): https://apps.shopify.com/boxify
Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/
Cloudflare O2O for Shopify (setup guide): https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-for-platforms/cloudflare-for-saas/saas-customers/provider-guides/shopify/
Recon Brand & Clone Protection: https://recon.bot/
Watch This Episode on YouTube
https://youtu.be/LOlLfAohPUM
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:34 Meet Dave Tanguay
1:40 Bots From Singapore and China
2:26 What Bot Traffic Costs You
4:13 Cloned Stores and Missing Orders
5:01 Why Blocking Countries Stopped Working
5:46 Switching to Cloudflare's Free Plan
6:58 What Cloudflare O2O Is
8:25 Blockify vs. Cloudflare in Plain English
10:30 Challenging Every Checkout
11:30 An Arms Race With Bots
12:55 Letting Good Bots Through
14:09 Moving Your DNS to Cloudflare
16:00 Why Not to DIY Your DNS
17:37 Doesn't Shopify Already Use Cloudflare?
19:07 Using AI to Write the Rules
22:47 How We Spotted a Clone Site
25:15 Tools That Watch for Clones
27:52 Signs You Have a Bot Problem
28:17 Wrapping Up
Book a Call
Book a Call with Patrick: https://calendly.com/patrickriceco/strategy-call
Book a Call with Leighton: https://cal.com/leightontaylor/discovery-call?utm_source=podcast
Work with Us
Work with Patrick (SEO and Google Ads): https://patrickriceco.com/
Work with Leighton (Shopify Store Builds, Migrations, & Ongoing Support): https://envision.io
You may notice that our content sometimes includes affiliate links or sponsored content. We may receive compensation for this type of content, which supports the work we do at no cost to you.
Some Shopify food, beverage, and CPG brands are making $20,000 to $30,000 a month from their recipe pages alone. Patrick Bollenbach, founder of Recipe Kit, joins Leighton and Patrick Rice to break down recipe SEO on Shopify and how his new app Recon catches the scammers cloning Shopify stores.
Links Mentioned
Recipe Kit: https://recipekit.com/
Recon Brand & Clone Protection: https://recon.bot/
Judge.me: https://judge.me/
Shopify's copyright infringement reporting form: https://help.shopify.com/en/manual/compliance/intellectual-property/copyright-policy
Watch This Episode on YouTube
https://youtu.be/PLACtwQSaOY
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:39 How Patrick Got Into Shopify
2:36 His First App Got Declined
3:45 What Recipe Kit Does
5:09 Getting Out of Service Work
8:13 Who Actually Uses Recipes
9:40 A Look at the Recipe SERP
10:36 Structured Data and Star Ratings
13:53 Where AI Fits In
17:36 Skip the Grandma Story
20:12 The Ad Problem on Recipe Blogs
23:32 Bare Recipe Cards Ranking First
24:09 Tracking Revenue From Recipes
26:05 Images Are the Big Mistake
29:25 Pinterest Is Underrated
32:33 Better Blog Comments and UGC
35:15 Recon and Store Cloning
37:02 How to Stop a Clone
41:08 Filing a DMCA Takedown
45:58 AI Slop Clones in the App Store
48:48 Product Is No Longer the Moat
52:06 Why Human Teams Still Win
52:54 Wrapping Up
Book a Call
Book a Call with Patrick Rice: https://calendly.com/patrickriceco/strategy-call
Book a Call with Leighton Taylor: https://cal.com/leightontaylor/discovery-call?utm_source=podcast
Work with Us
Work with Patrick (SEO and Google Ads): https://patrickriceco.com/
Work with Leighton (Shopify Store Builds, Migrations, & Ongoing Support): https://envision.io
You may notice that our content sometimes includes affiliate links or sponsored content. We may receive compensation for this type of content, which supports the work we do at no cost to you.
What is a good Shopify conversion rate? It depends on your traffic mix, your industry, and your price point far more than on any benchmark you will find online. In this episode we break down the three step funnel from add to cart, to reaching checkout, to a completed purchase, plus the drop off numbers that show you where a store is actually losing sales.
Links Mentioned
Baymard Institute (free ecommerce UX articles and research): https://baymard.com
Blockify (block bot traffic by country or IP): https://apps.shopify.com/blockify
Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com
Leighton's Shopify CRO audit checklist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZV21GWwNNMWmnsU__hlw9Y-QVMNFY02qjrIjeeofGY8/edit?usp=sharing
Watch This Episode on YouTube
https://youtu.be/X1Ea1du9vbo
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:20 The Ecommerce Growth Equation
3:06 How Conversion Rate and AOV Compound
4:45 Why Conversion Rate Is a Weird Number
6:34 Conversion Rate Is Always Relative
8:12 How Bots Skew Your Data
10:04 Blocking Bot Traffic
11:39 Cloudflare and Shopify
14:20 Do Bots Actually Hurt Sales?
15:19 The Hidden Cost of Bot Traffic
17:57 Themes, Navigation, and Basics
18:44 Baymard as a CRO Resource
20:24 The 100 Point Audit Checklist
23:11 Mobile Menus and Shop All Links
27:36 Free Shipping Bars and AOV
28:51 The Three Step Funnel Benchmark
31:01 Diagnosing Where Sales Leak
32:14 Improving Add to Cart Rate
33:31 When to A/B Test
35:40 How Much Data You Need
39:06 Wrapping Up
Book a Call
Book a Call with Patrick: https://calendly.com/patrickriceco/strategy-call
Book a Call with Leighton: https://cal.com/leightontaylor/discovery-call?utm_source=podcast
Work with Us
Work with Patrick (SEO and Google Ads): https://patrickriceco.com/
Work with Leighton (Shopify Store Builds, Migrations, & Ongoing Support): https://envision.io
You may notice that our content sometimes includes affiliate links or sponsored content. We may receive compensation for this type of content, which supports the work we do at no cost to you.
Patrick Rice started a Minecraft YouTube channel at 13 and made his first $3,000 online before he had ever heard of SEO. He walks Leighton through the whole path to running a Shopify SEO and Google Ads agency, including the client he lost to a migration that went sideways and the point where managing everything himself turned into a ceiling.
Links Mentioned
E&R Business Consulting (Traci Eisenberg-Rayburn, Patrick's business coach): https://www.erbusinessconsulting.com/
Patrick's old Minecraft video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq51xW8pYqg
Watch This Episode on YouTube
https://youtu.be/9bTCzlZG3zI
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:23 The Minecraft YouTube channel
3:35 Accidental link building
4:30 First SEO job at 18
7:27 How PRC started
9:15 Going independent too early
10:31 Four years as a freelancer
13:28 Knowing your agency numbers
15:38 Getting into Shopify SEO
17:06 The migration that cost a client
19:17 The cold email that landed
22:41 Referrals and LinkedIn
25:02 LinkedIn is saturated now
26:48 Hitting the growth ceiling
29:58 Ownership versus tasks
33:40 The hire who quit in 4 days
35:52 How much to document
38:30 Where AI fits now
40:17 Ads first, then SEO
41:45 Wrapping Up
Book a Call
Book a Call with Patrick: https://calendly.com/patrickriceco/strategy-call
Book a Call with Leighton: https://cal.com/leightontaylor/discovery-call?utm_source=podcast
Work with Us
Work with Patrick (SEO and Google Ads): https://patrickriceco.com/
Work with Leighton (Shopify Store Builds, Migrations, & Ongoing Support): https://envision.io
You may notice that our content sometimes includes affiliate links or sponsored content. We may receive compensation for this type of content, which supports the work we do at no cost to you.



