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A conversion therapy survivor speaks to the man who ran the conversion therapy clinic he escaped from. (Part 3 of 3) Order Conversations with People Who Hate Me (the book!) here: https://tedtalks.social/398oDrs Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Sign up for Dylan's newsletter: https://tedtalks.social/3vOs1zq Transcript for this episode: dylanmarron.com/podcast/episode-guide/episode-46 Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
John Smid recounts how he came to run a well-known conversion therapy clinic. (Part 2 of 3) Conversations with People Who Hate Me The Book is out now! Get it here: https://tedtalks.social/3HUsF3m Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
Garrard Conley, a survivor of conversion therapy, recounts his experience. (Part 1 of 3) Conversations with People Who Hate Me The Book is out now! Get it here: https://tedtalks.social/3HUsF3m Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
This is... NOT an episode of Conversations with People Who Hate Me. We're taking a week off, so instead we're sharing an episode of another podcast from the TED Audio Collective called How to Be a Better Human. It's a show hosted by comedian (and good friend of Dylan's) Chris Duffy, about how we can all learn to be a little less terrible. Dylan was interviewed by Chris last year and shares what he’s learned about apologies, forgiveness, and the benefits of taking the time to explore and establish our personal boundaries. If you want to hear more episodes, you can find and follow How to Be a Better Human wherever you're listening to this. And great news—they're hard at work on a new season and will be back weekly in June.
Dylan speaks to a friend who has been openly critical of this project since it began. Conversations with People Who Hate Me The Book is out now! Get it here: https://tedtalks.social/3HUsF3m Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Transcript for this episode: dylanmarron.com/episode-guide/episode-43 Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
Episode 42: Vaccines

Episode 42: Vaccines

2022-03-2301:09:20

A listener who is scared of the COVID vaccine speaks to Dylan's doctor about the vaccine's benefits. To learn more about the safety of COVID vaccines, check out the CDC's website here. Find Dr. Keith Roach on Facebook and Twitter. Preorder Conversations with People Who Hate Me (the book!) here: dylanmarron.com/book Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Transcript for this episode: dylanmarron.com/podcast/episode-guide/episode-42 Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
Dylan tries (and fails) to produce a conversation for Michael James Schneider, a popular artist who is derisively known to some as "balloon guy.” Preorder Conversations with People Who Hate Me (the book!) here: dylanmarron.com/book Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Transcript for this episode: https://www.dylanmarron.com/podcast/episode-guide/episode-41 Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
Two colleagues speak for the first time since their falling-out in a text message. Preorder Conversations with People Who Hate Me (the book!) here: https://tedtalks.social/3HUsF3m Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Transcript for this episode: https://www.dylanmarron.com/podcast/episode-guide/episode-40 Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
A widely recognized actor speaks to a teenager who participated in a misogynistic meme against her. Preorder Conversations with People Who Hate Me (the book!) here: https://tedtalks.social/3HUsF3m Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Transcript for this episode: https://www.dylanmarron.com/podcast/episode-guide/episode-39 Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
When Amanda left a snarky comment in response to a sponsored ad, she assumed she was taking a shot at a gigantic corporate entity who wouldn’t care what she had to say. In reality, it was a small business run by a husband-and-wife team who are trying to make ends meet. Today, they speak to each other for the first time. Preorder Conversations with People Who Hate Me (the book!) here: https://tedtalks.social/3HUsF3m Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Transcript for this episode: https://www.dylanmarron.com/podcast/episode-guide/episode-38 Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
Episode 37: Salvation

Episode 37: Salvation

2022-02-1601:07:24

A young trans man and his mother speak about her struggle to accept his gender identity. Preorder Conversations with People Who Hate Me (the book!) here: https://tedtalks.social/3HUsF3m Submit an episode idea: https://tedtalks.social/3oTuTsd Transcript for this episode: https://tedtalks.social/3LzErCv You can find Janna on TikTok and Instagram at @Jannatransmomma Conversations with People Who Hate Me is part of the TED Audio Collective. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio mixer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: "These Dark Times" by Caged Animals.
The first rule of the internet: avoid the comments sections. On Conversations with People Who Hate Me, host Dylan Marron breaks that rule. He explores what happens when online feuders step out from behind the keyboard and get to know the human on the other side of the screen. Join Dylan as he connects people who have clashed online – from old friends to complete strangers — to explore why we believe what we believe, how we relate to each other on the internet, and just what a phone call can accomplish. While some of the comments and clapbacks quoted aren’t for the faint of heart, these conversations will be sure to fill it in this loving show that fosters unlikely connections in an age of increasing digital isolation. Whether Dylan is speaking with someone who wrote him a negative comment or is moderating a call between two strangers at odds, the results are often surprising, usually heartwarming, and always compelling. Conversations with People Who Hate Me is brought to you by the TED Audio Collective and will return in early 2022. Hit subscribe to get new episodes as they’re released. You can submit your own story here: bit.ly/CWPWHM And look out for the book, Conversations with People Who Hate Me, releasing March 29, 2022: bit.ly/CWPWHMB
Two longtime friends talk after getting into a Facebook altercation about COVID-19. Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a production of Night Vale Presents. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio engineer, mixer), Emily Newman & Mark Stoll (associate producers), Christy Gressman (executive producer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: “These Dark Times” by Caged Animals.
Popular writer, vlogger, and creator Hank Green speaks to someone who tweeted “popular opinion but I hate hank green.” If you’d like to be a guest on this show fill out the form at conversationswithpeoplewhohateme.com Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a production of Night Vale Presents. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio engineer, mixer), Emily Newman & Mark Stoll (associate producers), Christy Gressman (executive producer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: “These Dark Times” by Caged Animals.
When a Peloton commercial went viral, countless people shared their thoughts online. In this episode, Dylan connects Sean, an actor in that commercial with Tom, a man who called him a loser. If you’d like to be a guest on this show fill out the form at conversationswithpeoplewhohateme.com Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a production of Night Vale Presents. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio engineer, mixer), Emily Newman & Mark Stoll (associate producers), Christy Gressman (executive producer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: “These Dark Times” by Caged Animals.
A Bernie supporter and an Elizabeth Warren supporter connect after clashing online. If you’d like to be a guest on this show fill out the form at conversationswithpeoplewhohateme.com Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a production of Night Vale Presents. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio engineer, mixer), Emily Newman & Mark Stoll (associate producers), Christy Gressman (executive producer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: “These Dark Times” by Caged Animals.
Episode 32: Trash

Episode 32: Trash

2020-01-2749:35

In the summer of 2017 journalist Katie Herzog wrote a piece that was widely criticized. Ultimately she found herself at the bottom of a social media pile-on. 3,000 miles east of Katie, a woman named Robyn Kanner joined that pile-on tweeting “ur just trash.” In this episode, taped live in front an audience, Katie and Robyn meet onstage for the first time to discuss what happened between them, and the unlikely twist that brought them closer than they would have ever guessed. If you’d like to be a guest on this show fill out the form at conversationswithpeoplewhohateme.com Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a production of Night Vale Presents. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio engineer, mixer), Emily Newman & Mark Stoll (associate producers), Christy Gressman (executive producer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: “These Dark Times” by Caged Animals. Additional credits for live show: Dustin Flannery-McCoy (field recording), Ben Altarescu & Alan Kudan (live recording).
Host Dylan Marron shares his 2018 TED Talk “Empathy is not Endorsement.” TED Talks Daily features a new TED Talk every weekday. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch his talk here: https://www.ted.com/talks/dylan_marron_empathy_is_not_endorsement
Dylan speaks to Carl, an old high school classmate, about something Carl wrote online seventeen years ago - before social media as we know it was even invented. If you’d like to be a guest on this show fill out the form at conversationswithpeoplewhohateme.com Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a production of Night Vale Presents. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio engineer, mixer), Christy Gressman (executive producer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: “These Dark Times” by Caged Animals.
Dylan speaks to Brian, a stranger who called him a gay slur. If you’d like to be a guest on this show fill out the form at conversationswithpeoplewhohateme.com Conversations with People Who Hate Me is a production of Night Vale Presents. Credits: Dylan Marron (creator, producer, host), Vincent Cacchione (audio engineer, mixer), Christy Gressman (executive producer), Phillip Blackowl (logo designer), Mindy Tucker (logo photographer). Theme song: “These Dark Times” by Caged Animals.
Comments (54)

Delafrouz

Be #Mahsa_Amini

Oct 1st
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Penny Brower

It seems this outcome may be a good example of white male cishet privilege? We can get so blinded by our own "truth" that is seems almost impossible to get our eyes opened to another's reality. I do not believe, in our current world, it is even possible to have a "justice" system. We have only a very flawed politicized legal system which, like most other large systems, is ultimately controlled by those already in positions of wealth and power who are desperately working to maintain or add to what they are already privileged to have. This seems to limit their ability to put themselves in the shoes of the people negatively impacted by those systems, as well as limiting their ability to see the need for reform. Thank you for the courage to have, and make space for, these kinds of vital conversations, despite the fact that this episode left me feeling quite sad.

Jul 16th
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Janai Jones

I find it wild to imagine that Andrew made his way onto a social media platform, on the world wide web, only to not search what he clearly doesn't understand. He is walking privilege and ignorance.

Apr 4th
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Jess Hart

Ugh, this dude is insufferable. He's unwilling to admit that he is irrationally scared and has decision paralysis about the vaccine and just wants the decision taken out of his hands.

Mar 25th
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Janai Jones

Hurt people hurt people is so right. I'm so glad I left religion behind, the reality is religious people are incapable of "hating the sin, not the sinner".

Mar 22nd
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Janai Jones

That guy made me sick. It's incredibly hard to listen to him speak with such a delusional and ignorant individual. It's hard to hold empathy for him at all.

Mar 22nd
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maedeh chorli

it was the cutest and the most honest talk, loved it

Dec 14th
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Michelle Ziems

they're not gonna play the clip? I have no idea what these people are talking about.

Jul 10th
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Michelle Ziems

For someone who teaches children about this stuff for a living, they really flopped when asked simple questions or when posed with flawed statements. Lindsay barely even spoke and when they did they were like "wow fascinating" or "that's ok that you think that." have they ever met a conservative before? You dont get anywhere by throwing your technical terms at people and then saying "it's fine that you think that." Its condescending and it pushes people away from you. Lennox was extremely open and you two wasted this opportunity to just agree with each other and make no effort to communicate with him. Somebody put me in contact with this Lennox guy and we'll figure all this out together productively.

Jul 10th
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Jess Hart

Very life affirming

May 18th
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Promaxius

I had initial biases coming into this episode because I am a queer Latinx Bernie Bro, but I was pleasantly surprised. Thank you, Dylan, for delivering this type of content. With that being said, I don't appreciate that Warren supporters tend to tone police Bernie and his base for being rightfully angry with the Establishment. Just some food for thought about an individual's privilege to tone police.

Feb 10th
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Moonmoon

feel bad for this blokes wife, imagine marrying someone with similar views as you and then being stuck with them as they become a completely different person

Jul 17th
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Nicolle Arguelho

this guest has a beautiful voice!

Jun 5th
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Andi-Roo Libecap

I absolutely love and endorse the idea of using a spouse or partner or other trusted loved one to edit one's social media comments. I'm very emotional and thus prone to outbursts, which I sometimes later regret, so I almost always ask my husband if what I'm writing is too passive-aggressive / aggressive-aggressive / hurtful / ignorant / etc. before posting... particularly if I'm in the throes of passionate anger or depression. The best way to trust myself to be the best version of me is to be aware of when it's not safe to trust myself to be the best version of me. Sounds like an oxymoron but that sums up my personality so I'm good with it.

Jun 4th
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Stephanie Dickerson

Acts 10:9-16 for an explanation of the shellfish bit

Apr 25th
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Andi-Roo Libecap

You are doing something amazing here. Mad respect, my friend. Thank you for doing this and for sharing it. I have a little more faith in humanity now, thanks to you. xoxox

Apr 7th
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alloflove

I feel so bad for Lindsay having to have an entire conversation of "you don't exist" without even really getting to speak for themself.

Mar 29th
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Andrew Williamson

but like i said before I REALLY DISAGREE WITH U lol

Feb 18th
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Andrew Williamson

This show is so deep, interesting, and helps me get the BIGEST most important range of prospective of people that I,,, we all need..

Feb 18th
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Andrew Williamson

You would make an Awsm cult lhh.. you are hilarious!!😂😂

Feb 18th
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