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A collection of interviews with dope theologians, practitioners, artists, and miscellaneous church folk. Hoping to promote a faith with the blinders off. Hosted by Liam Miller.
77 Episodes
It’s time for more theo-lutions with a panel of wonders! Keegan Osinski, Flora Tang, and Nicole Mugford join me to talk about our resolutions for our own work and for the church. We discuss online communities/church, the need to talk about sex, creative engagements with our traditions, and forging environments of safety and flourishing for LGBTIQA+ Christians. Keegan Osinski is the Librarian for Theology and Ethics at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, TN. Her first book, Queering Wesley, Queering the Church, will be out later this year.  Flora Tang is originally from Beijing, China. During her doctoral studies, she hopes to explore a theology of liturgy and sacraments in post-traumatic or post-conflict settings in the Global South. Her research interests stem from the question of how religious communities embody and remember their collective trauma. Her constructive theology project will draw upon concepts from both memory studies and comparative literature studies. Outside of her research, Flora writes poetry that incorporates imagery from queer theology and the Catholic literary imagination.Nicole Mugford is a 28 year old, UCA nerd. As an active member of the Uniting Church she finds herself on many councils and committees including the current Assembly Standing Committee. She is a Youth Worker and holds a bachelor of ministry. She has recently started a digital faith community for LGBTQIA+ people in their 20s and 30s which is a growing community of people from all over Australia.Follow the show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow Me: @liammiller87Find More:
I sat down with Steff Fenton (they/them, she /her) to talk about church - their experiences, hopes, and call. We also discuss fostering environments where folks can celebrate and explore their sexual and gender identity in conversation with their faith, non-hierarchical leadership, the Sydney church scene, and some of the big changes they hope to see in churches and theological study in the coming years. Steff Fenton is one of the founding Elders and the Associate Pastor of New City Church, a new faith community meeting on Gadigal land in Sydney’s Inner City. They also Co-Chair the Sydney Branch of Equal Voices, a group that connects and equips LGBTIQA+ people and allies across the Australian Church to be more safe and inclusive. They’re the Treasurer-Director of an NDIS-funded home for people with disabilities, called Charis House Co-operative. Through the week, you’ll find them chipping away at a Masters of Divinity at the University of Divinity, learning how to cook new vegan meals for friends, or playing board games. Steff identifies as queer, as well as an ENFJ and an Enneagram 2 wing 3. New City Church: Equal Voices: Steff's Blog: Find more: Follow the show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow Me: @liammiller87
I sat down with a wonderful group of guests to talk about resolutions: for our own work, for the church, for the academy, for the... a whole lot of things. It was fun. Skyler Keiter-Massefski is a theological anthropologist whose work coalesces around the themes of trans embodiment, American empire, eschatology, and abolition. They hold a degree in Anthropology from the University of Massachusetts Amherst, and will receive their MDiv from Yale in May. You can find Skyler writing about academia, queerness, and ghosts on Twitter @SkylerJay_. Ed Watson is a Theology PhD student at Yale. Originally from the UK, he spent time teaching in New Haven and developing homelessness ministries in Denver before pursuing various academic itches. He focuses on the relationships between doctrine, concept formation, and colonialism, especially in terms of how fundamental Christian beliefs motivate senses kinship and inheritance which in turn generate racialized concepts of belonging. He is an ardent supporter of Liverpool FC, Andy Murray, and Scottish rugby. On twitter at @an_edcentric Rev Radhika Sukumar-White has been a Minister of the Word in the Uniting Church since 2016. She is a 2nd Generation Sri Lankan Tamil Australian, and grew up in Canberra before moving to Sydney to study Physiotherapy, Music, and then Theology. Radhika is passionate about leading vibrant worship, preaching and teaching, and walking alongside individuals in their life and faith journey. She and her husband Adrian are privileged to have been called to Leichhardt Uniting Church as a ministry team. Radhika is also deeply passionate about brunch. Laura Jean Truman is an Atlanta based writer, itinerant chaplain, and amateur mystic. She lives and writes in the in-between places of loving Jesus, being queer, and rediscovering a more spacious Christianity after fundamentalism. Follow the show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow me: @liammiller87 Find more:
I sat down with David and Sarah to talk about their international jail and prison ministry: Abolition Apostles. We talk about their calling into this work, their letter-writing, advocacy, and why abolition can function as a tent-pole issue for Christians concerned with the impact of racialised capitalism. David Brazil and Sarah Pritchard are the founding co-pastors of Apostles Fellowship, a nondenominational Christian church, as well as Abolition Apostles (, an international jail and prison ministry based in New Orleans, Louisiana. Find them on Twitter: @AbolitionChurch Find more episodes: Follow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow me: @liammiller87
I sat down with Brian Kōlia to discuss his diasporic/postcolonial work on Ecclesiastes, his Tulou reading of Song of Songs (and its constructive implications for animal studies), his Fāgogo reading of Gen 3 (and its ability to cross taboos and allow more liberative conversations on sexuality), and teaching the Prophets in ways that preserve their distinctiveness and speaks into our times. What comes across is the vitality of this work and its nimbleness to not be tied down by the forms, questions, and big T truth of colonial forms of Christianity and academia.  Brian is teaching an intensive on the Prophetic Literature at United Theological College in North Parramatta from Jan 18-22. To find out more or enrol/audit the class contact Joanne Stokes on: joannes [@] or phone (02) 8838 8967 (Course Code: THL 308).Rev Brian Kolia is a PhD candidate at the University of Divinity, Melbourne, writing his dissertation on the book of Ecclesiastes. He has lectured in Old Testament at Malua Theological College in Samoa. Alongside his passion for the Hebrew Bible, he also has special interests in postcolonial and islander criticism, diasporic theory, and cultural & indigenous wisdom. Follow him on Twitter: @BKoliaFind more: www.loverinserepeat.comFollow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow Me: @liammiller87
I sat down with Sara Gillingham to talk about her experience in the church as someone born with intersex traits. We discuss her work with theologians and church leaders in developing conversations and resources, the way the diverse experiences of those born with intersex traits can sometimes be obfuscated in order to be aligned with more ‘hot-button’ church debates, and the frustration of church leaders continuing to make a meal of what are, ultimately, some rather basic hopes.Sara Gillingham is an Anglican, who speaks of her experience of being born with intersex traits. She has featured on National TV, Radio and Newspapers in the UK, as well as contributing articles to the religious press. Sara has recently worked with the Church of England’s House of Bishops on including intersex in the Episcopal Teaching Document and materials entitled ‘Living in Love and Faith’ (published November 2020), and has shared her personal story in one of the resource videos.Find More: www.loverinserepeat.comFollow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow me: @liammiller87Music by Fyzex
I sat down with Tripp Fuller to talk about open and relational Christology. We discuss the pros of going process (or adopting elements of an open and relational theology), why Tripp just keeps talking about Jesus, his three-pronged approach to Christology (historical Jesus, existential register of faith, and metaphysical referent to God), how his approach can address supersessionist ways of thinking of the Incarnation, and what is the hope in a God who maybe doesn’t control or overrule, but invests?Buy the book.Tripp Fuller is a Postdoctoral Research Fellow in Theology & Science at the University of Edinburgh. He received his Ph.D. in Philosopy, Religion, and Theology at Claremont Graduate University. Tripp is the founder and host of the Homebrewed Christianity podcast and author of Jesus: Lord, Liar, Lunatic… or Awesome? And Divine Self-Investment: An Open and Relational Constructive Christology. Find all of Tripp’s zesty goods at his website. Find more: www.loverinserepeat.comFollow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow me: @liammiller87Music by Fyzex
I sat down with Oscar García-Johnson to talk about Spirit Outside the Gate: Decolonial Pneumatologies of the American Global South (IVP Academic, 2019). We discuss doing theology in the colonial difference and centring indigenous practices, values, and ideas; we talk about Transoccidentality and how it repositions Christian identity toward a community-in-movement (and the implication of this in conversations around migrants and migration). We also go deep on pneumatology, discussing his view of the Spirit as Decolonial Healer and his response to one of the book’s central question: “What are Christians to make of the Holy Spirit’s occasional encounters with cultures and religions of the America’s before the European conquest?”Oscar García-Johnson, Academic Dean for the Center for the Study of Hispanic Church and Community and Associate Professor of Theology and Latino/a Studies at Fuller Theological Seminary. Prior to joining the Fuller faculty in 2008, he taught for ten years as an adjunct faculty member at Fuller. He also served as a regional minister with the American Baptist Churches of Los Angeles for 11 years and planted four new churches in Southern California.Oscar García-Johnson teaches in English, Spanish, and Portuguese. His research methodology interlaces de/postcolonial studies, classical theologies, and US Latino/Latin American studies into a critical hermeneutic he calls Transoccidentality. His writings include Spirit Outside the Gate: Decolonial Pneumatologies of the American Global South (IVP Academic, 2019), Conversaciones Teológicas del Sur Global Americano (coedited, Puertas Abiertas/Wipf & Stock, 2016), Theology without Borders: Introduction to Global Conversations, coauthored with William Dyrness (Baker Academic, 2015), ¡Jesús, Hazme Como tú! 40 Maneras de Imitar a Cristo (Wipf & Stock, 2014), The Mestizo/a Community of the Spirit: A Latino/a Postmodern Ecclesiology (Pickwick, 2009), and chapters in The Spirit Over the Earth: Pneumatology in the Majority World (Eerdmanns, 2016), The Gospel after Christendom: New Voices, New Cultures, New Expressions (Baker Academic, 2012), Vivir y servir en el exilio: Lecturas teológicas de la experiencia latina en los Estados Unidos (Kairos, 2008), and Pasando la Antorcha (Kerigma, 2005).In addition to teaching courses at Fuller, García-Johnson is a social activist involved in faith-rooted holistic justice with Matthew 25 of Southern California, LA RED, and CCDA. He offers conferences on leadership development and ministry across the Americas (US included), Asia, and Africa. Cofounder of Omega Geñeration project, he is committed to facilitating thriving ministry environments for Latinx millennials and Latina women.Find More: www.loverinserepeat.comFollow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow me: @liammiller87Music by Fyzex
I sat down with Vicky Balabanski to discuss her Eco-Stoic reading of Colossians – a new addition to the Earth Bible Commentary Series with T&T Clark. We talk about stoicism – the ins and outs, its popularity in the New Testament era, and how it shapes the letter to the Colossians. We then pick up how an eco-stoic reading can guide the church trying to untangle itself from certain assumptions, readings, and patterns that contributed to the ecological crisis we now face and lead us into action. Rev Dr Vicky Balabanski is senior lecturer in New Testament at Flinders University Department of Theology and Director of Biblical Studies at the Uniting College for Leadership and Theology. She has lived and worked in various parts of Europe, the Middle East and Asia, including a year in Jerusalem as the Golda Meir post-doctoral fellow at the Hebrew University. She is a team member and editor of the international Earth Bible Project, which has produced a series of books that seek to read the Bible in the shadow of the ecological crisis facing the Earth community. She has written for various feminist collections. Vicky was ordained in the Uniting Church in 2011. She is actively involved in supporting the development of indigenous writers in the field of spirituality.Buy the Book Find more: www.loverinserepeat.comFollow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow me: @liammiller87Music by Fyzex
In the exciting conclusion of Deus Ex Schleiermacher I sat down with Shelli Poe to talk about Schleiermacher as Trinitarian Theologian. We talk about the anit-speculative connection between Calvin and Schleiermacher, why "the great mystery of the Christian faith ought to be the fact of the divine good-pleasure toward creation, rather than a set of conceptual difficulties." We then discuss the 'pastoral' reasoning behind Schleiermacher's positioning of the Trinity, the trinitarian form of the divine attributes of Love, Wisdom, and Causality, and how this approach overcomes or sneaks around some of the problems Schleiermacher identities with traditional trinitarianism.Shelli M. Poe is Visiting Professor at Iliff School of Theology, and Theologian in Residence at Safe Harbor United Church of Christ (Clinton, MS). She holds a Ph.D. in Religious Studies with a concentration in Theology, Ethics, and Culture from the University of Virginia; an M.Div. from Princeton Theological Seminary; and a B.A. from Bethel University (St. Paul, MN). She has taught at the University of Virginia, the University of Mary Washington, Mississippi Course of Study School (Candler School of Theology), Pathways Theological Education, and Millsaps College.Her book, Essential Trinitarianism: Schliermacher as Trinitarian Theologian is part of the T&T Clark Explorations in Reformed Theology series and available now. Shelli is also edited the volume Schleiermacher and Sustainability and has authored the forthcoming: The Constructive Promise of Schleiermacher’s Theology which is part of Bloomsbury’s T&T Clark Series, Rethinking Theologies. So, really, just about the best person to conclude Deus Ex Schleiermacher! Find More: www.loverinserepeat.comFollow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow me: @liammiller87Music by Fyzex
I sat down with Ted Vial to talk about Friedrich Schleiermacher’s political activity, intellectual proclivity, and preacher’s sensitivity. We discuss Schleiermacher’s distinction between religion and theology, why readers benefit by considering his work in other academic disciplines, and why it is helpful to be reminded that the only Christianity we have is the one we have. We end with a great discussion on Schleiermacher’s Christmas Eve: a dialogue and why it’s the perfect entry point to his theological corpus.This episode is week one of our two-part series: Deus Ex Schleiermacher. Look for Part two next week!Theodore (Ted) M. Vial, Jr. is Associate Dean of Curriculum and Institutional Assessment and the Harvey Potthoff Professor of Theology and Modern Western Religious Thought at ILIFF School of Theology Denver. He is the author of Modern Religion, Modern Race (Oxford, 2016); Schleiermacher: A Guide for the Perplexed (T & T Clark, 2013); Liturgy Wars: Ritual Theory and Protestant Reform in Nineteenth-Century Zurich (Routledge, 2004).At the end of the interview Ted mentions and extends an invitation to Race, Surveillance, and Technologies of Resistance – a virtual conversation (run through ILIFF’s Artificial Intelligence Institute) on the use of technology as tools of resistance by the BIPOC community. More information here: the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow Me: @liammiller87More:
I sat down with Kendall Vanderslice to talk about dinner church, meal based communities, and the community of God. Her excellent book, We Will Feast is out now with Eerdmans and draws on her experience and research within these communities and her own theological and gastronomical reflections.We talk about why food needs more attention in preaching and theology, eating as delighting in the created order, what kinds of communities and relationships she has seen forged over meals, centring relationships in how we be the church, how the church can address the loneliness epidemic, and the common challenges and surprising solutions posed by these forms of community (especially in light of COVID).Buy the book.Kendall Vanderslice is a writer and baker who studies the intersection of food and theology. She holds an MLA in Gastronomy from Boston University and a Masters of Theological Studies from Duke Divinity School. Her book, We Will Feast: Rethinking Dinner, Worship, and the Community of God is out now with Eerdmans. She also runs a range of courses on dinner churches, meal based ministry, including how to do community meals online. You can find all of that at or the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow Me: @liammiller87Find more: www.loverinserepeat.comMusic by Fyzex
In a special live episode of Love Rinse Repeat, Liam sat down with Monica Melanchthon, Lyndal Sherwin, and Renee Evans to talk about how we might read the Psalms and Prophets in the midst of a pandemic.Despite often being framed as a great equaliser, the impact of COVID is disproportionately metered out against the world's vulnerable people. The time of the pandemic has been accompanied, in Australia and elsewhere, by an intensified push to confront and overcome racial injustice, renewed emphasis on the need for urgent environmental activism, and revealed just how many people are willing to sacrifice their neighbours for the economy.The Prophets and the Psalms, texts often written and compiled in the wake of deep disruption, traumatic cataclysm, and the end of meaning, are unwavering in their demands for truth, lament, repentance justice, and hope. For this reason they are a potent place to turn amidst the crises of our day. Join us for a wide-ranging and relevant discussion on what the church can learn through the disruption and comfort that comes from reading these old texts in a new pandemic.Rev Associate Professor Monica Melanchthon teaches Old Testament/Hebrew Bible at Pilgrim Theological College (Melbourne, VIC). Monica has strong commitments to the marginalized, particularly, women and Dalits. She has contributed toward developing Dalit and Indian Feminist hermeneutics and theologies, and interpretation of Biblical texts drawing on insights from the social biographies of these communities, their perspectives and their lived experiences. Her approach is therefore contextual, inter disciplinary and liberational. Her research interests include cultural and literary studies, reception histories, epistemologies, ecological readings, feminist hermeneutics and interpretations.Lyndal Sherwin is an occupational therapist and mental health service manager, mother, theological student and member of H3O Church Dee Why.Renee Evans is a high school ancient history teacher, member of a new Baptist Church plant in Marrickville, who completed her BTh at Morling College. She leads workshops on sustainability, waste and theology.Follow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow Me: @liammiller87Find More: special episode was co-presented with Toukley Uniting Church where Liam is currently in placement as a New Growth Minister.
I sat down with Brian Robinson to talk about being beta for Jesus! (Or, as his book is more scholarly titled: Being Subordinate Men: Paul’s Rhetoric of Gender and Power in 1 Corinthians – out now with Lexington Books). Folks, this book is a game changer! A robust, bold, and ultimately convincing argument that through elevating femininity and misperforming masculinity, Paul consistently undermines first-century Roman norms of masculinity. Instead of toxic masculinity, Paul commands the men in his audience to embody a failed, or subordinate masculinity out of both faithfulness to Christ and in order to overcome factionalism in the community. We talk in-depth about the book and its surprisingly increasing relevance where Presidential hopefuls are challenging their incumbent opponent to push-up contests.Brian J Robinson teaches classes on religious studies and hellenistic Jewish and early Christianity literature at Azusa Pacific University and California Lutheran University.Follow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow Me: @liammiller87Find more: www.loverinserepeat.comMusic by Fyzex
I sat down with Dr Di Rayson to talk about teaching theology, being a Christian in green movements, and how to appropriately call on Bonhoeffer when engaging contemporary issues. Di is a public theologian with special interest in climate change, ecoethics, and ecofeminism. She often teaches at The University of Newcastle Australia, where she did her PhD, on Bonhoeffer's Theology and Anthropogenic Climate Change. Di has worked on other contemporary issues such as war, rape culture, and theology and the arts. She has also published on Bonhoeffer and Gandhi and Bonhoeffer's political theology.In November she is teaching a course on Creation and Eco Theology with United Theological College and Charles Sturt University. The course runs from Nov 9-13 both online and at UTC in North Parramatta. For more information, or to enrol, please contact Joanne Stokes at the show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow me: @liammiller87Find More:
I sat down with Susannah Cornwall, Associate Professor in Constructive Theologies at the University of Exeter, to talk about her edited volume Intersex, Theology, and the Bible: Troubling Bodies in Church, Text, and Society. We discuss gender reveal parties, the limits of gender binaries, the ethics of performing ‘surgical corrections’ on infants, why theology often overlooks intersex people, and intersex's capacity to positively trouble unquestioned norms and dubious assumptions in religion and beyond.Susannah Cornwall is Associate Professor in Constructive Theologies at the University of Exeter. She is the author of Sex and Uncertainty in the Body of Christ (Routledge, 2010), Controversies in Queer Theology (SCM Press, 2011), and Un/familiar Theology: Reconceiving Sex, Reproduction and Generativity (Bloomsbury T&T Clark, 2017). She also edited the volume at the heart of today’s discussion, Intersex, Theology, and the Bible: Troubling Bodies in Church, Text, and Society (Palgrave Macmillan, 2015).Follow the Show: @RinseRepeatPodFollow Me: @liammiller87Find More:
I interviewed Gregory L. Cuéllar about his book Resacralizing the Other at the US-Mexico Border: A Borderland Hermeneutic (Routledge, 2020). We talk about the way the sacred is weaponsised by elite powers to shape social reality, the way it grants permanence to the negating of the inherent sacred worth of the black and brown bodies of those approaching or crossing the border, while sacralizing the Anglo-American project of colonisation, violence, and manifest destiny. We talk about how – counter intuitively – appealing to the sacredness of the other can provide a way toward a healing strategy, and how this book seeks to “attend in a healing way to the recurring, open wounds of postcoloniality at the US-Mexico border” – wounds that are, for the author, personal.Gregory L. Cuéllar is Associate Professor of Old Testament at Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary, USA. He is the author of Voices of Marginality (2008) and Empire, the British Museum, and the Making of the Biblical Scholar in the Nineteenth Century: Archival Criticism (2019).Buy the book: More: www.loverinserepeat.comFollow the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow me: @liammiller87Music by Fyzex
I sat down with Rabbi Nahum Ward-Lev to talk about the Liberating Path of the Hebrew Prophets. We talk about the world's need for courage, wisdom, and vision, the three qualities inherent in every prophet: “an encounter with divine love and concern for the world, courage to name oppression, and a moral imagination to articulate an alternative future.” We also discuss the importance of art, imagination, and dialogue in the prophetic tasks, the overlapping concerns of the Hebrew Prophets and the Book of Deuteronomy, and the way biblical liberation themes are found in various contemporary figures. We end with a discussion on how the prophetic critique of stability and immutability as "currency of empire" and the importance placed on a liberation journey in increasingly mutual relationships speaks with hope and care into our current COVID19 climate, and an impassioned plea to join the work of birthing a new world.Rabbi Nahum Ward-Lev founded and leads Beit Midrash of Santa Fe, a multi-faith sacred learning community. He has led workshops at retreat centers, synagogues, churches and seminaries across the United States, including Union Theological Seminary, Ghost Ranch, Santa Maria de la Vid Abbey and Stony Point Center. His teaching invites learners into an adventurous exploration that engages the body, heart and soul as well as the mind. He is an experienced spiritual director, accompanying people of many faiths. Nahum is the Scholar-in-Residence at Temple Beth Shalom in Santa Fe, NM and a Fellow of the Rabbis Without Borders Initiative. Find out more: The book is The Liberating Path of the Hebrew Prophets: Then and Now (available with Orbis Books)Find more: www.loverinserepeat.comFollow: @RinseRepeatPod and @liammiller87Music by Fyzex
I interviewed Michael J. Gorman about his book Participating in Christ: Explorations in Paul’s Theology and Spirituality (Baker Academic, 2019). I ask Michael how some common refrains stack up against Paul’s understanding of participation, how the cross not only reveals Christ and God, but also what it means to be human. We talk about co-resurrection and how that shapes how we speak of justification, how Michael’s work on theosis is more narrative than metaphysical, and if there’s a relationship between Paul’s union with Christ language and Matthew 25’s presence of Christ in the least of these. Finally we talk about his deuteron-Pauline letter to the contemporary church in North America.Michael J. Gorman holds the Raymond E. Brown Chair in Biblical Studies and Theology at St. Mary’s Seminary & University in Baltimore, Maryland. He is the author of numerous books, including The Death of the Messiah and the Birth of the New Covenant, Reading Revelation Responsibly, Abide and Go, as well as his “participation trilogy”: Cruciformity, Inhabiting the Cruciform God, and Becoming the Gospel: Paul, Participation, and Mission. Participating in Christ: Explorations in Paul’s Theology and Spirituality was released by Baker Academic in 2019 (Buy Book)Find more: the Show: @RinseRepeatPod // Follow Me: @liammiller87Music by Fyzex
Liam sat down with Rev Charissa Suli, a National Consultant with the Uniting Church in Australia's Assembly Resourcing Unit. They discuss resourcing the church for increasingly changing times, working with and in churches that are becoming increasingly multicultural, how the UCA has lived up to its 1985 declaration "we are a multicultural church. We also talk about her work with youth and young adults in the church, what she has learnt in those encounters, and how churches might think about 'growing young.' Finally we talk about church during COVID-19 and what she hopes might stick around once we are allowed to gather again. Hint: a key to all three of these discussions is relationships.
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