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This week, Hugh Grant joins us pre-coffee and commando. Diplomacy, an evil Champagne Baron, the Shanks, Greed & Laziness, and the very slippery slope of douchebaggery. “The whole thing started by mistake,” it’s an all-new SmartLess.
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Hey guys, I'm off to the supermarket to do some grocery shopping.
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And I thought you guys would like to know what's on my list.
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Here we go, ready?
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Yogurt, granola, tomato sauce, ketchup, tried fruit, baked beans, nut butter, chocolate milk, cereal bars, bread, condiments, salad dressings, protein bars, candy, tea crackers, energy drinks, canned fruit, juice, coffee, soda, ice cream, barbecue sauce, and cakes.
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Welcome to Smart List!
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Smart!
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Smart!
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Smart!
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Smart!
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Smart!
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I had a great day yesterday.
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Yesterday was the, remember the, we were gonna tell you about my heart bullshit.
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You know, yeah.
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Did you get a new one tomorrow?
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Yesterday?
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No, I didn't get a new one, but I went to a lunch by myself.
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I had really bad sushi.
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Then I went and got, I bought two books and I had an ice cream cone on the way home.
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I'm like, this is it, this is solo, this is solo?
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This is by myself.
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This is to make your heart better?
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(laughing)
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Yeah, it was, and then I went into the bookstore.
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Hey, by the way, do bookstores make you wanna poop a little bit?
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Yeah, you know what I mean?
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Something about just standing on your feet that long.
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I think gravity takes over.
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No, but it's like the coziness of a bookstore, the coziness of like a pharmacy, you know, no.
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Or like a gift shop.
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Sorry, coziness?
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No.
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Yeah, there was a comparison between a bookstore and a pharmacy.
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Well, yeah, just like the similarity.
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Like the co, like the quietness of it and the coziness of it.
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It really gets my stomach going.
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This hypochondriac finds pharmacies comforting and cozy.
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So JB, a bookstore is a place where, okay, which seems like a perfect segue to go into something we should talk about just for two seconds.
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Smartless media is now doing a new show called Clueless.
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Yes.
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I've heard about this.
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Yes, you both were on an episode.
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Actually, I've lived an episode.
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Yeah.
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And it's out.
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This is not a podcast starring Alicia Silverstone, right?
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No, this is, that is correct.
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It stars the host.
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The host is Elliot Kalen.
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He's the former head writer of the Daily Show at John Stewart, Mystery Science Theater 3000, a bunch of great stuff.
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He's so funny.
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And I'm the permanent contestant.
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You're the clue less part of it.
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He's the clue full part.
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That's exactly right.
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It's like 10 to 12 minute episodes of Just Puzzle Podcasts and it's super fun.
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You can- The little sprints.
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Yeah, you can like try to solve it while you're driving or listening to the show.
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And it's only 10 minutes and it's super fun.
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Well, how long do you take playing Wordal each day?
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Well, yeah.
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What was it was a take for you to get through Wordal?
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Pretty quick.
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Pretty cool.
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Yeah.
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Because you usually bust real fast, right?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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I'm out.
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I sure don't.
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Well, I would stack my Wordal in timing and also success rate against yours any day.
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No, no, you're definitely smarter than me.
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Anyway, so Clueless is coming up.
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It's great.
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You should listen to it.
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It takes no longer than the average person would take to solve Wordal.
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If you're super bright like Will Arnett.
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I mean, it's fun.
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It's fun.
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It's fun.
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It's a super fun show.
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It's super fun games.
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And it premieres Monday, November 18th and I'm on every episode.
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And I play with family and friends and you guys that were kind enough to do the first episode.
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It was a lot of fun.
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Yeah, I liked it a lot.
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It was a lot fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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Yeah.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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It was a lot of fun.
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Yeah.
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I like that I'm alone because I read somewhere that I think that our guests films have grossed north of four billion dollars worldwide.
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Wow.
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Well, actually, she's magnificent.
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Yeah.
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And as are the kids, we know you chest.
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Yeah, now I should point that out.
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No, she's great.
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To my great surprise, while I was being pretty drunk for a few years in London,
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about 13 years ago, the bar I used to hang out at.
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There was this hot sweet, the other end of the bar.
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And it was hot.
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She's an athlete.
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She was very nearly a pro tennis player, but she's just too angry.
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And anyway, we got closer and closer and then we started breeding and then now we're married.
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She's very much the man in the family.
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She comes from the northern part of Sweden.
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I mean, Swedish men I think are quite masculine anyway, but when they come from the north, where everyone lives among the trees, they're really seriously masculine and men are not supposed to talk.
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If you talk, it's a bit girly.
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No, it's true.
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Her brothers, I've never heard them say a word.
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For yes or no, they just suck their teeth.
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And that's northern Swedish for yes or an.
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Oh, look at this.
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Oh, look at the foods coming for you.
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Yeah, I got some coffee, thank God.
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Yeah, thank you very much.
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Yeah, get that in here.
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Well, yeah, the Swedes do that.
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If you, if I'm wrong, they do that thing when they, when they talk to the phone, they go.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Yes, that's it.
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That's it.
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That's a yes.
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That's an agreeable breath.
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I've spent some time in Stockholm over the years.
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I've been there a few times.
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I quite like Sweden.
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And I always say that Sweden is kind of like Canada with much better architecture.
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And it's, the people are really great, but they're also very blunt in that way.
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That a lot of the sort of the Nordic people can be.
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And I was fine because every time I went there, I, you know, I go and I'd see people relatives or friends and they'd say, oh, look at you.
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You look quite fat.
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And I'm like, well, it's great to see you too.
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My, my, you are tired.
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You are very tired.
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And I can tell by your face looks terrible.
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That's absolutely correct.
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I don't allow my wife to go on any of the group chats with the schools because she offends everyone instantly with remarks exactly.
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Wait.
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I hear, did you ever, speaking of the character, how you just described your wife, did you find it difficult to give up control as a man when you met her?
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Like you had before you met her, were you like more in control of, or did you believe you were in control of more?
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And then when you met her, you're like, yeah, I guess I could hand this off to her.
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This is fine.
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I seem to be quite happy in my pussy roll.
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I just, I just can't believe she likes me.
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I mean, you know, I'm a bit chassis compared to Swedish men.
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Sure.
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And I, you know, she catches me watching the sound of music in the afternoons.
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I love it.
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We get along great.
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Yeah.
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God, I love the visual.
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She also has a long list of things that she says, unshagable in a man.
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And they're really tough like having tea instead of coffee.
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coffee, driving an electric car.
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So far, check, check, from me.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I wish I could remember the other ones, they're good.
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So those are things that that that that that deem you in eligible for her her pleasure.
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Yeah, that's correct.
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Yeah.
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So you're a coffee man, full combustion so all three children are adopted.
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So what is she seeing you, man?
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I know.
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It's a mystery.
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And she was married before to a very butch ski champion instructor or something.
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There was an ugly moment when I was filming this film, heretic in Canada, when I went for a walk one day, we were filming in Vancouver.
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I went for a walk on whistle-amountain nearby.
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Beautiful.
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And I told my wife on the phone and there was a bit of a silence.
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And then it turned out that her ex-husband lives on whistle-amountain.
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I'm not very good in nature.
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And I did get into slight difficulties that day.
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And I had this nightmare scenario in which her ex-husband rescues me.
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Carries me down the mountain over his shoulder.
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That would have been a low blow.
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He rescues you because he because he lives in the trees because he's living close to the bone on the land.
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He's sort of hauling logs through waste deep snow.
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Yeah, well, that's him.
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And we will be right back.
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And now back to the show.
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Let's go way back.
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So I think for a lot of people, certainly in this country and in Canada as well.
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I'm going to speak to my fellow Canadians.
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We sort of came to know you, I think, through four weddings in a funeral was the thing where we went.
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Everybody went, "Oh, this guy is amazing."
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Truth be told, it wasn't your first film.
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You'd made quite a few films before, yeah.
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I had a career before four weddings, but it was a bit lame.
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I specialized in really low-quality mini-series, like Judith Crenz's "To We Meet Again."
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I was always, for some reason in these mini-series, I was always a champagne baron, an evil champagne baron.
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I did hundreds of those parts.
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And I used to sell the family reserves of the best champagne to the Nazis and then get horsewipped out of the house by Michael York.
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Horsewipped out of the house.
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Yes, another alternate title for the biography, having raped my half sister Courtney Cox.
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Oh my gosh, yes.
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Jesus Christ.
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This is taking a turn for the better and keep going.
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I'd love to see this.
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Oh, there was another one where I was, you know, there's a brand of champagne called "Shall Ad Sik."
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Anyway, I was him.
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Well, I played him.
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I played him.
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It's partly sponsored by the champagne makers themselves.
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It was not a high point in television history, I don't think.
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And I made the mistake of doing French accent.
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I didn't have great lines.
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I remember I had to say things like, you must listen to the champagne.
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There is laughter in the bubbles, you know, with lines like that.
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God, how long have you been a professional actor?
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Earning a paycheck.
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Oh yeah, well, 40 years.
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Yeah, wow, and amazing.
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And before you were earning a paycheck, you were learning, I'm guessing, was there much training?
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How early did the bug bite you?
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You can tell.
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It was not great training.
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No, you're fine.
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I never, I never trained.
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It was the whole thing started by mistake.
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I had left university.
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I was heading off to do another degree in a different subject, which I didn't really want to do.
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That much.
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Which is right.
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Well, I was highly pretentious.
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I'd just done a degree in literature.
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I was off to do a history of art, masters.
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And anyway, as I, in the summer, when that, when that was about to happen, someone said, Carmen, watch this amateur film that I had played a small part in,
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while a student at Oxford.
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And I thought, I might as well, I was showing BAFTA and Piccadilly that night.
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And I went there on my bicycle and I watched it.
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It was not a good film.
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I was not good in it.
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But at that time in England, it was very much the vogue for actors to be hoity-toity posh.
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It was the time of chariots of fire and Bright said revisited and things like that.
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So agents said to me, would you like to be an actor?
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We'd like to represent you.
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And I said, no, thank you very much.
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And went back to prepare for a hit world in the history of art.
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And then I suddenly thought, actually, I've got no money.
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So maybe I should do that for a year.
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And then I'll go and do my other degree.
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So I rang them back.
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I said, yeah, look, I'll do this for a bit.
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And I got jobs, but I was so bad.
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I thought, I can't leave it at that.
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I'll do one more and try and be better.
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And that has gone on for 40 years.
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Isn't that interesting?
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Because you're English, we all revere.
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And it's just assumed that you've had all this training.
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Well, I was going to say, yeah, and there are so many, of course, there are so many English actors who work over here as Englishmen or poses Americans.
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But there is always that thing about having gone to drama school, having gone to Rada or whatever.
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And I wonder if growing up in that environment.
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Now, of course, you were coming out of Oxford, but growing up in a lot of your peers who are coming out of these schools, was there kind of a,
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I don't know, was there a thing about that?
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Was that something that those people, I'm not asking you to speak ill of your friends, but was there a kind of a thing about that?
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Were they kind of, were they lured at that over?
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What are the ones who've been to drama school?
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Yeah.
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Well, when I did this acting, I was nervous of them because I thought they must know stuff.
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I don't know.
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And I did read books about, you know, the voice and the body.
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And I did tragic drills in the park by myself.
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But, no, really, awful, awful.
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Where you have to say, you must run backwards with your arms spread out, shouting from your diaphragm.
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And I, I was in the theatre up in Nottingham in North of England at the time, and I went to the local park and I did these things.
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And then I remember looking over at some local kids who were saying, look, he's doing it again.
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What a wanker.
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There he goes again.
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Yeah.
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In many ways, they were right.
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Do you remember what the, what the, what the, what the big switch and change was when you went back to do it again and do it better and,
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and, and not be quite as, as bad an actor, as you say you were.
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Do you remember what, did you do anything on purpose that pushed you more towards the higher quality performance?
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Was there one thing?
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Well, you, you all know this is only about parts.
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It's just about how good the part is really.
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And in the end, this script for weddings in the funeral came across my desk.
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And I auditioned and they really didn't want me, the guy who wrote it, Richard Curtis really didn't want me, thought I was all wrong.
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But the man who directed it did.
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And that seemed to help.
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Although I must say, I never really felt I got that part.
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I, you know, you get that feeling, don't you, when you think I'm being rather good, I'm absolutely in character.
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I never, I never felt that way.
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How'd you mean that guy?
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How'd you mean?
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I couldn't hear him.
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I have to hear them and I couldn't hear him.
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Well, I couldn't anyway off the page.
00:25:14
It helped after I finally met Richard Curtis who wrote it, who is that guy.
00:25:19
And so in some ways, I'm just doing an imitation of him in that film.
00:25:25
Do you ever sit back?
00:25:26
And because I mean, we've all seen so much of your work.
00:25:30
Do you absorb how, do you get a moment of how being proud of yourself and like taking it all in and being like, I mean, you don't seem the type.
00:25:40
But like, my wish for you is that you accept it, you know, accept all that great work you've done.
00:25:45
Well, it's nice of you.
00:25:47
I've got better.
00:25:48
That's a, that is a mystery.
00:25:49
It's part, again, I think it's partly parts.
00:25:52
So when I got two old and ugly to do romantic comedies and started being offered these weirdo parts, it suited me best.
00:25:59
No, you're killing people.
00:26:02
We're on it on the street.
00:26:04
And you know, I have another weird, well, I have two theories about it.
00:26:09
One is I learnt really much in my career that you have to mean it, that you have to think it.
00:26:15
There's a whole other script behind the script, which is all about thoughts and feelings.
00:26:20
And prior to that, I'd always just thought, I just need to land this funny line right timing.
00:26:26
And that's not the way to be good.
00:26:27
So meaning it was one thing, but the other thing was, I have a weird theory that it was having children.
00:26:32
I think I, I was a dried up, middle-aged, golf-addicted Englishman.
00:26:39
Then I had children and suddenly I had heart and I, I could have more layers or something.
00:26:45
Wait a second.
00:26:46
How are you speaking our language?
00:26:48
Jason and I were two hours and we're tingling.
00:26:53
And if you ever are in town and you want to play with us, you just said, can I come?
00:26:57
I just asked.
00:26:58
Okay.
00:26:58
Now I can't today.
00:26:59
You'll be glad to hear it.
00:27:01
We need a fourth if you can play tomorrow.
00:27:03
So Hugh, talk a little bit about, you know, and you say, jokingly, you said, you know, two or two ugly to do the rom-com parts anymore.
00:27:10
But, you know, talk a bit about the half-serious part of that where, you know, your looks still are incredible.
00:27:19
But that, that was a, a, a large part of, of what we knew and loved about you was this incredibly handsome, dashing man providing the lead in all of these films,
00:27:33
which I'd like to still see you do, considering your incredible looks, maintaining here.
00:27:40
But, like, was that something that got in your way, like some sort of, you know, famously beautiful actresses of our time have often mentioned that,
00:27:50
you know, they weren't taken seriously because they were so gorgeous.
00:27:54
I mean, you know, was that ever something that you thought, well, you know, I want to be taken seriously as an actor, but people are hiring me for my looks.
00:28:01
Was that ever something that was a problem?
00:28:03
Well, I entirely lost faith that I could do anything else.
00:28:08
I believed my critics, really.
00:28:10
But I see now, maybe I was wrong, because at the very beginning, if I had any talent, it was for doing strange characters and silly voices and things, outlandish things that were nothing like me.
00:28:22
And I had this comedy group that was actually quite successful.
00:28:25
The London, an Edinburgh sort of fringe circuit, which was all character stuff, you know, silly characters.
00:28:33
What kind of you?
00:28:34
Sorry, that would be mid-80s.
00:28:36
Okay.
00:28:36
And yeah, we used to perform in pubs with people like Mike Myers.
00:28:41
He was next on that.
00:28:42
Oh, well.
00:28:42
Yeah.
00:28:43
And that was fun.
00:28:44
And actually, just after I made four weddings, I shot another film with the same director before four weddings was actually released, which was, you know,
00:28:54
I was a nicotine-stained, predatory, evil-twisted, unpleasant theatre director.
00:29:01
And I was pretty good.
00:29:02
And I wish that at least I'd kept that other strand of my career going through all those years and years of rom-coms, not that I hasten to add, not that I hate the romantic comedies.
00:29:14
I'm proud of them.
00:29:15
It's nice to have made films that actually entertain people, and they're much harder than people think.
00:29:20
And in some cases, much better, I think, than the sneer is think.
00:29:24
My wife's good on this.
00:29:26
She was watching, I think, love actually the other day.
00:29:30
Because we like to watch one of my films every night.
00:29:33
I make all the films.
00:29:35
If they don't watch them, they don't get fed.
00:29:37
She said quite correctly.
00:29:39
She said what's good about this film is that it's about pain.
00:29:44
And those, the good romantic comedies I did were really about pain.
00:29:48
It's about human dealing with pain, pain, and of course, I'm required love, etc.
00:29:53
And so do you feel that perhaps but for the massive success of the more sort of commercial efforts that you made, the rom-com stuff, that you would have maybe had a better chance at being received as a,
00:30:07
as a, as a thespian.
00:30:09
It's, you know, sometimes, you know, our great directors get stuck in that too.
00:30:13
You know, they're, they're incredibly sophisticated, but then they direct some big popcorn success, and now they're that direct.
00:30:19
They're shackled by financial success, right?
00:30:22
Yeah, exactly.
00:30:22
Greed pays a big part in this.
00:30:24
Yeah.
00:30:24
Greed and laziness.
00:30:26
And they, they've played those two have played a huge part in my career.
00:30:31
Well, but you're being falsely modest here.
00:30:34
But do you think that would you have made different decisions earlier on to balance out more of the output, like chosen some weird characters alongside the audience?
00:30:46
Yes, yes, yes.
00:30:47
Well, I still had some confidence coming off this other weird film I did before for weddings.
00:30:52
Yeah.
00:30:52
And then another one called Restoration, which was not a very successful film with Robert Downey, but I played a kind of freakish cameo in that, and I was pretty good, I thought.
00:31:01
And I should have, I should have at least kept that going.
00:31:04
Well, are you looking forward to now this, this stage of, you know, maybe like saying, well, check out what's been under this all this time.
00:31:13
And here comes some more interesting parts.
00:31:16
Well, I suppose that's what I've been doing for the last seven or eight years.
00:31:20
Yeah, I was going to say that.
00:31:22
It seems like you've kind of been on that track a little bit.
00:31:24
Yeah, and you've been sort of mixing it up.
00:31:26
I have mixed it up.
00:31:29
Yeah, just I'm so late to the party, but the undoing is a perfect example that you were so great in that with Nicole Kidman.
00:31:36
And I loved that series because I'm a big fan of thrillers and stuff like that.
00:31:41
So that was incredible.
00:31:42
I loved that series.
00:31:43
Oh, that's nice of you.
00:31:45
Yeah, not easy, but very well directed that thing, very well, but it's just on a bare Danish, you know, that whole scanned-in-war thing that she brought.
00:31:53
She made that what it was, I think.
00:31:55
Really cool.
00:31:56
I think so.
00:31:57
Yeah, I mean, I was going to say, I don't want to spoil it, but it's ancient history now.
00:32:03
To be that charming guy, the ideal husband, he's a cancer doctor for kids, loving to his child, loving to his wife, marvellous.
00:32:13
And it turns out he's an absolute savage psychopath.
00:32:16
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:17
You know, it's funny.
00:32:18
You seem to have this very sort of, I've got to say, kind of refreshing and very, I don't even know what to say, sort of honest,
00:32:28
this sort of self-appraisal that you're doing.
00:32:33
And maybe it's because, and I will say, I do share with you, as now that I'm north of 54, I spend a lot of time, I don't take as many things as seriously as I used to when I was a young man.
00:32:46
Certainly when I was a young actor.
00:32:47
Certainly, my career, I didn't have the career that you did in film.
00:32:51
In fact, I always joke that if it wasn't for bad films, I would have made one.
00:32:55
But you seem to have this very sort of healthy self-deprecating thing.
00:33:02
And it's not even self-deprecating.
00:33:04
I think it's quite, it's obviously very funny, but it's also, I wonder how much of it for you is cathartic to just kind of let it all go and not be serious about it.
00:33:15
Is that a conscious decision?
00:33:17
I quite like it, and you're encouraging me to do it more about myself.
00:33:22
Well, I don't know.
00:33:23
I mean, I feel actors can sometimes get a little pious or reverent about what they're doing.
00:33:32
And I've never, I've never been able to go down that alley.
00:33:36
I do, in the end, think we're in the entertainment business.
00:33:38
And if you're not entertaining people, what are you doing?
00:33:43
What are you doing?
00:33:44
It's a bit of a, it's a bit master-basuary.
00:33:46
Yeah.
00:33:47
I agree.
00:33:47
I agree.
00:33:48
Sean, you want to speak to that?
00:33:50
Yeah, thank you.
00:33:50
No, I totally agree.
00:33:54
I always thought that like, if you exactly what you just said, like there's a lane to pick where you make great things that speak to your heart and that are true for you and that you want to make.
00:34:07
And that's called art.
00:34:08
And in some form, it's all art.
00:34:10
But if nobody's watching you make that art, it's like if a tree falls in the forest, you know, like, then what are you doing?
00:34:17
But that's not right either.
00:34:20
I take back everything I just said because if you don't have the people trying new stuff.
00:34:26
No, I know, it's a balancing act.
00:34:28
It's a balancing act.
00:34:29
And the problem is, I think under the umbrella of art comes an awful lot of pretentious dross that deserves to die in the forest.
00:34:37
That's also some absolute gems and artistry that actually genuinely gets me going.
00:34:46
On the plane last night, I watched a zone of interest.
00:34:49
And you you cannot get.
00:34:51
Yeah, that's incredible.
00:34:53
Incredible filmmaking in every amazing than that film.
00:34:56
It's incredible.
00:34:57
And that clearly is not made for you know, the masses.
00:35:00
What you might call entertainment or or money.
00:35:03
But it's you know, incredible.
00:35:05
Sean, Sean and Scotty, you guys don't because you it's not part of the MCU, as we'd call it, right?
00:35:12
The Marvel Cinematic Universe is so adorable.
00:35:14
Sean, Sean and his husband are can often be found with sort of children's lightsabers battling on the front lawn.
00:35:23
Sparky.
00:35:23
I like to call it the front lines.
00:35:26
Yeah.
00:35:26
No, we, you know, we're big sci-fi fans.
00:35:30
But I know, you mean, I think the goals then, you know, if you're making the thing something like zone of interest, and it does find an audience that's as it has, I believe,
00:35:41
that's the real win is when you're making.
00:35:43
Well, because it's illuminating.
00:35:44
It's illuminating, right?
00:35:46
I mean, not only is it great art, there's also a message, but it's illuminating and exposing people to to art.
00:35:52
Sometimes Jason, as you say, making the medicine go down earlier.
00:35:56
I hate even calling it medicine because it is.
00:35:58
But but also getting into conversations about what is art and what is not art is a very slow, slow, into douchebagry.
00:36:04
Right, right, right.
00:36:06
And I think what what what sometimes has got lost or perhaps has got lost is that it was possible to make big successful box office films that were smart.
00:36:17
I used to have a deal with castle rock pictures and Rob Reiner, who's the kind of boss of that, always said there are two hundred million dollar movies in this country,
00:36:29
one of them's moronic, and the other is very bright, and you can make big successful films that are intelligent, smart, you know, groundbreaking,
00:36:39
and he did lots of them, you know, and I think it's sad that that's got lost, that that doesn't seem to exist so much anymore, or maybe it's it's moved over to Netflix or something.
00:36:52
We'll be right back.
00:36:58
And now back to the show.
00:37:00
Now what about junkets?
00:37:04
Now you like the older you get for my sister Tracey who doesn't junk it is a press tour for any project you're working on.
00:37:11
And you bet you that's what he was in town for.
00:37:13
He was in town to answer a bunch of questions about this new movie coming out and it's part of sort of yeah, you know, bang the drum like your hair on fire.
00:37:20
And then let's let's discuss the worst part, which is the the back-to-back junket days when you sit in room and then they try to go downstairs and start that and you do certain they say,
00:37:30
okay, so today it's 35 and tomorrow it's 41 in a row.
00:37:35
And I know you're listening at home and you're saying, hey, fuck you, I stare at a wall all day and then I drive home.
00:37:40
But this is equally as my numbing, I assure you.
00:37:43
Yeah.
00:37:44
I might quite yet to that point.
00:37:47
My question is just like what were you talking about before?
00:37:50
The older you get, you kind of have, don't you have the power to say, guys, I'm going to do like three today and that's it?
00:37:57
Or I don't know.
00:37:58
Yes, you do, I suppose, but you feel a bit of an asshole if you do that.
00:38:02
Yeah.
00:38:03
Because you come to love the filmmaker, don't you?
00:38:05
You love your, you know, everyone's put themselves out there.
00:38:08
And it's a terrifying moment when you're about to present something to the public.
00:38:12
And to just walk away and say, I'm too grand to talk to the media is a bit wanky.
00:38:17
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:38:18
But what happens in the scenario where you, you've seen the film and you're like, oh boy.
00:38:23
Oh, there's been that together.
00:38:25
This did not work.
00:38:26
Yet you still have to go out and, yeah, and champion it.
00:38:29
Is that, is that difficult?
00:38:30
What traditionally at that point, I like to get arrested.
00:38:32
And then, brilliant.
00:38:37
And then you're kind of out of the loop.
00:38:39
Very smart plan.
00:38:43
You're an A.
00:38:45
Check, not avail LA.
00:38:46
But this one, I imagine this one, you're excited to talk about.
00:38:51
You're in one of those really cool new, I'd love this news.
00:38:55
I guess it's not a new genre, but it's a, it's a tilt on the genre of horror films where they've really over the last what five or 10 years become much more cinematic.
00:39:05
Like these are really, really well-made films.
00:39:07
They're beautiful.
00:39:09
And they're challenging.
00:39:11
And I would imagine this is, this is one of those.
00:39:14
Did you, did you have a great time doing it?
00:39:16
Are you happy with the end product?
00:39:18
I am very happy with the end product and you're right.
00:39:23
Well, part of the reason I did it was because it was A24 and yeah, it's not often in life that you get something as surprising and uplifting as what they've done for cinema with just sheer bulls and courage and good taste,
00:39:39
creating film after film that's fresh and new and often utterly fucking terrifying.
00:39:47
I'm still getting over mid-summer.
00:39:50
It's kind of like what you say what Rob Reiner said is, you know, like why exactly have something that is artistically sound, but also so enjoyable and so satisfying and deliver so thoroughly that it makes a whole lot of money,
00:40:05
sells a bunch of popcorn at the same time.
00:40:07
And that's the dream scenario, exactly.
00:40:09
That's the bullseye.
00:40:10
Heretic has got that.
00:40:12
Well, it's definitely very smart.
00:40:14
I mean, it's fascinating.
00:40:17
I'm a character who makes a lot of quite long speeches in it about religion.
00:40:24
And they were genuinely fascinating to me.
00:40:27
These two weirdos who wrote and directed it, Scott Bryan, who also wrote for instance a quiet place.
00:40:34
They're interesting guys.
00:40:37
They did years of research to come up with the arguments I make in this film and I think they are really quite startling and fascinating and so I enjoyed all that part of it.
00:40:51
And it's filmy.
00:40:52
I am obsessed with films being filmy and not just like a big format TV.
00:40:57
So it's got incredible production, design, incredible photography.
00:41:02
And it's daring because traditionally, as you know, films tend to try and keep that dialogue quite pithy and short.
00:41:10
This is very dialogue heavy.
00:41:12
And how are you learning your lines?
00:41:15
Well, at worse and worse, you know, the older I get, the more I drink, but I know.
00:41:20
Start weeks and weeks early and I do for walks every day, going through every single line over and over again because I think they, I have a theory that they're like dance steps and that the more you repeat your dance steps,
00:41:33
the more you can't forget them on the day.
00:41:35
And then on the day you can have other thoughts and other feelings and do what actors are supposed to do.
00:41:42
It's in your skin.
00:41:44
It's in your skin and I hate seeing in my eyes or any other actor's eyes.
00:41:48
I think he's just looking for his next line.
00:41:49
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:51
Jason, do you record, sorry, go ahead, Sean.
00:41:53
Jason has the opposite.
00:41:55
He can look at something and memorize it in five seconds.
00:41:57
He's very good.
00:41:58
I don't understand it.
00:41:59
I don't understand it.
00:42:00
It's not that great, but it's, I do, it's sort of a self preservation thing.
00:42:06
I find if I, if I, I wish I could do what you do, Hugh, but I find if the more I do that, the more I sort of nail in a way, I'm going to do that line, the more and more I talk about it and rehearse it,
00:42:17
then I'm less flexible on the day when I see what the other actor is doing and I actually have to change a little bit.
00:42:23
It's harder for me if I'm really nailed down with the lines.
00:42:27
You're right.
00:42:27
So I worked in the theatre once for the very good director who used to say, don't nest.
00:42:32
You're nesting your lanes in rehearsal.
00:42:34
And that was brilliant.
00:42:36
You don't want to nest, but at the same time, I've worked with actors, as I say, where they're just struggling for their lines the whole time.
00:42:44
That's all that's going on in there.
00:42:45
We used to sort of 20 years ago when Jason and I were doing a television show called Rest of Development and we used to constantly be getting rewrites at the last second and so we'd have our sides with us on set.
00:42:58
We'd be looking at them and we'd just turn a jam in and jam in and they'd be like rolling, okay, rolling.
00:43:03
Here we go, guys, everybody's up in front of them.
00:43:05
We're just looking, looking, looking, and one of the sets was this living room of this house and we jam our sides between the cushions.
00:43:14
So years later, do you remember this, Jay?
00:43:17
Years later we went and we did a few more seasons of the show for Netflix like whatever it was eight, 10 years later and they had all the old sets.
00:43:25
They preserved them somewhere out in the desert where they keep sets of old television shows and they brought the original stuff and we sit, we go to rehearse the first day.
00:43:34
We're sitting on the couch and I reach, I think there's no chance.
00:43:37
I reach between the cushions.
00:43:39
All these sides that had been jammed in years earlier.
00:43:43
That's the last second jamming them in.
00:43:46
Is that fine?
00:43:46
Hey, well, here, you know, you sound like you are, you're a big film fan as far as the way things are shot and designed and whatnot.
00:43:55
Have you, with all your set experience?
00:43:57
Have you ever flirted with directing?
00:44:00
Is that an interest to you?
00:44:01
It is of interest.
00:44:03
There's lots of it, which is of interest.
00:44:06
The bit that would get me down is a year or two years on the same story.
00:44:14
I've produced films in the past and, you know, by the end of the year and a half, you just think, I don't care anymore, just get it out.
00:44:20
You know, when you're in a folie session about which footsteps for the postman coming up the stairs.
00:44:26
But Jason, you love that kind of intricacy stuff.
00:44:31
Well, he loves the postman approaching.
00:44:35
I do.
00:44:35
I do.
00:44:36
I actually, yeah, we're coming up with the sound of what does it sound?
00:44:40
What is the sound of a body hitting the ground?
00:44:42
It did that on Ozark once.
00:44:44
It was from 40 stories.
00:44:45
And now we've got this other one and this new one, where it's just three stories.
00:44:48
And it's going to be a different sound.
00:44:50
Yeah, there's a lot softer.
00:44:51
Yeah, exactly.
00:44:53
How did you get the 40 story?
00:44:55
Did you actually throw someone out?
00:44:57
I wouldn't know.
00:44:58
That was that was something that we thought about doing actually like throwing a big bag of something out.
00:45:03
But yeah, anyway, it was just louder than the three story one.
00:45:07
But I do, I do anticipate that process being becoming a bit tiresome.
00:45:14
At some point, I'm going to gas.
00:45:16
And I'm going to be like, yeah, you know, it's just just the acting part from for a while now.
00:45:20
You think so?
00:45:21
Perhaps.
00:45:23
It's also very, very hard to see the story I find after a year or a year and a half.
00:45:27
To tell me your objectivity?
00:45:29
Yeah, I produced one of those films.
00:45:32
We used to call the cleaning lady in the editing room and just say, come and watch this film.
00:45:36
And then suddenly you could see it.
00:45:38
You could see it through someone else's eyes, but I couldn't see what other people.
00:45:41
What about writing?
00:45:42
Have you done any writing or any film writing and the other kind of writing?
00:45:47
Well, increasingly, I ginger up my dialogue, not on every film, but on some of them a lot.
00:45:56
A lot, it may be up to 80% is scribbled by me.
00:46:00
Oh, really?
00:46:01
Yeah, that's, that's, there's nothing around that.
00:46:03
And then how do you navigate that tricky process of, of not defending anyone?
00:46:06
Not defending anyone.
00:46:07
Well, yeah.
00:46:08
And like, you got to kind of pitch that to the director and or the writer or the other actors.
00:46:14
And then what if they say, yeah, no, I like it the other way.
00:46:16
And then you're like, yeah, but I'm the one talking and I don't want to sound like an idiot.
00:46:20
So here's the better dialogue.
00:46:22
I agree.
00:46:23
It's a little window.
00:46:24
I'm a master of that particular labyrinth though.
00:46:28
And I also am fully aware that nine times out of 10 when an actor says, I've got some ideas.
00:46:34
It's going to be shit.
00:46:35
And yeah, yeah, you don't want to hear it.
00:46:37
And then you dread it.
00:46:38
And then, you know, sometimes the director will have to say, now let's do one of yours.
00:46:42
Just what you would you know is going to end up on the cutting room floor just to keep him happy.
00:46:47
Yeah, I imagine.
00:46:48
I don't know you, but I imagine that diplomacy is one of your strong suits.
00:46:52
I I guess genius.
00:46:54
Yeah.
00:46:54
Yeah.
00:46:55
Yeah.
00:46:55
That comes across would help you with directing.
00:46:58
Yeah.
00:46:59
It would actually help you with directing because that's all it is, isn't it?
00:47:01
I mean, it's a lot of it.
00:47:03
Hugh, when you come to when you come to LA, what are the things you look forward to doing?
00:47:07
Or as you say, when you just quote, get out of the house, what are the things you look forward to?
00:47:11
Well, I was a golf addict for 12 years.
00:47:15
So I used to get the guys together and go and golf in the very old days.
00:47:20
In the Judith Cranced to we meet again days, I used to go to Rancho Park.
00:47:26
I bet you never played there.
00:47:27
Of course, we have.
00:47:28
Yeah.
00:47:29
Yeah.
00:47:29
Oh, yeah.
00:47:29
They used to announce your name through a loudspeaker.
00:47:32
They still do.
00:47:32
They still do.
00:47:33
And you team up with three guys you never met.
00:47:35
Yeah.
00:47:36
Yeah.
00:47:36
Yeah.
00:47:36
More rounds played on that golf course in anywhere in the country.
00:47:39
And it's how you what?
00:47:40
If you like a seven hour round, Rancho is your place.
00:47:42
So you've kicked.
00:47:44
Have you kicked the habit of having having kids as a man's counter to it?
00:47:47
Yeah.
00:47:48
Yeah.
00:47:48
That killed everything.
00:47:50
And also, I got the shanks.
00:47:51
Did you?
00:47:52
Yeah.
00:47:53
I got the shanks or the Tom Hanks as we call them in rhyming slang, worse than anybody's ever had them.
00:47:59
What's shank?
00:48:00
What are the shanks?
00:48:02
That's one.
00:48:02
The bar goes far right instead of straight or far.
00:48:05
It's almost impossible to achieve if you try to do it.
00:48:08
But it's where the head of the club meets the shaft of the club.
00:48:10
Oh, yeah.
00:48:11
So the ball goes humiliatingly.
00:48:13
The Hazel.
00:48:14
You know, there's a very quite famously Ian Baker Finch who won the open and who's now a broadcaster here in America, a golf broadcaster.
00:48:21
And he's, by the way, a very good golf broadcaster.
00:48:24
And he still plays.
00:48:25
We actually saw him last year playing.
00:48:26
I mean, not professionally.
00:48:27
He doesn't play professionally because he won the open.
00:48:30
He was sort of at the top of the game.
00:48:32
And he got the shanks.
00:48:34
Yeah.
00:48:34
And he couldn't hit a fairway and he couldn't.
00:48:37
And it's so shanks for nothing.
00:48:39
Well done.
00:48:42
I once lost a ball chipping from off the green on live television.
00:48:48
I was in a big pro ad in Scotland.
00:48:51
And all I had was the tiniest chip up onto this green.
00:48:55
One of those courses in Scotland shanked it, went into one of those little streams and was taken out to see lost.
00:49:00
That's probably when I gave up.
00:49:06
Jason Jason one time at a pro and at Pebble Beach.
00:49:10
Two, two, three years ago, playing a couple of groups.
00:49:14
Adamie was in a bunker on the third hole.
00:49:17
And and he thinned one.
00:49:19
He hit it thin out of the bunker.
00:49:22
And it went straight into the windshield of a car.
00:49:25
Oh, that's magnificent.
00:49:28
And then I just I just dove in the bunker and just got out.
00:49:32
He ducked.
00:49:33
Walked away and went to the next hole.
00:49:35
That's shameful.
00:49:36
I know.
00:49:37
Would you like to know my my most shameful moment?
00:49:40
Please.
00:49:41
Yeah.
00:49:42
Took my dad and my brother to play golf in northern France.
00:49:46
And there was one course we wanted to play on.
00:49:48
It wasn't open, but they said, we because we got our big tournament today.
00:49:52
But we will open it, especially for you, Mr.
00:49:54
Grant, Mr.
00:49:55
Grant.
00:49:55
In fact, come early.
00:49:57
Well, I will cook you a special breakfast and we'll take you to the first tea.
00:50:01
So long as you get off before the tournament, everything's fine.
00:50:04
So we turn up.
00:50:04
They cook us a lovely breakfast.
00:50:05
They drive us to the first tea.
00:50:07
Round about the third hole.
00:50:08
I'm already in a rage.
00:50:10
I had terrible golf rage.
00:50:12
I've had I got the shanks with some chip.
00:50:16
And through my wedge as far as I could over a kind of hill by the side of the third green into the bushes, thought, right, I never want to see that fucking thing again.
00:50:26
Then realized over that hill was not the bushes, but was in fact the first green.
00:50:32
And I go over the top of the hill and there is my wedge embedded like a tomahawk in the middle of the green right next to the hole.
00:50:42
And the competition has now started with their best players coming up the green.
00:50:45
And the guy who'd cooked us bread for sitting in a buggy right by the green.
00:50:48
Hello there.
00:50:52
Yeah.
00:50:53
Yeah.
00:50:53
Some crazy man stole my wedge and threw it over this hill.
00:50:58
I'm so glad I found it.
00:50:59
Did you ever get to, did you ever get to be a single digit?
00:51:05
I did.
00:51:05
I got to 6.7.
00:51:07
That nice.
00:51:07
Yeah, but I you're lower than that.
00:51:10
I can tell from your face.
00:51:11
No, no, no, no, no, no, not at all.
00:51:13
I can't play to that at all.
00:51:14
You are you with any of your family, your kids, your wife, do they travel with you?
00:51:19
Are you so low?
00:51:20
No, thank God.
00:51:21
Yeah.
00:51:22
Actually, my wife, my wife is coming out tomorrow.
00:51:25
Oh, that's fun.
00:51:26
Yeah.
00:51:26
What were you guys going to eat?
00:51:28
What were you guys going to like?
00:51:30
Yes, yes, we met concerts.
00:51:32
Yeah, no, not concerts.
00:51:34
No, we're going to, we're going to...
00:51:35
Scandy drinking dinners.
00:51:40
Oh, good.
00:51:40
And I still have friends here remarkably, especially my old Kalsa Rob friends.
00:51:46
Oh, bad.
00:51:47
Doing golf with them.
00:51:48
Oh, yeah.
00:51:49
Oh, good.
00:51:50
Yeah.
00:51:50
Last thing I want to ask you here, and then we're going to let you go.
00:51:53
And I know you're busy and you're exhausted.
00:51:55
And this is a drag.
00:51:56
But where do you see the next five?
00:51:58
Because you're making all these changes and doing all these, if you had it your way, what are the next five years for for they look like?
00:52:08
Yeah.
00:52:08
Well, in the fantasy, which is the same fantasy I've had for 40 years, is that I finally knock it on the head and right by novel or possibly a wonderful script.
00:52:19
But I can't seem to get over that hurdle.
00:52:22
I sit down and I terrified of failure.
00:52:26
But I have pages and pages and pages of ideas and notes.
00:52:30
And that would be really nice.
00:52:31
Because also, I think right in the last few years, it's become less enjoyable to be recognizable in the street.
00:52:39
And then well, it's just hard now.
00:52:42
I find it hard.
00:52:43
The camera thing is tough, particularly with children.
00:52:46
Yeah.
00:52:47
So it would be nice to gently disappear.
00:52:51
I would be first in line to read your book and I think they would I imagine it'd be quite good.
00:52:56
And I would be second in line to listen to it.
00:52:58
But you can do the audio book.
00:53:03
But please do, please do write that book.
00:53:06
I imagine you'd have a lot to say.
00:53:10
So you've been very nice to me.
00:53:12
Thank you.
00:53:13
Well, a huge fan.
00:53:15
Mass a fan, man.
00:53:17
Mass a fan for a long time.
00:53:18
Well, I looked at your three names and saw I'm frightened of all three of you because I was brilliant.
00:53:25
I'm very, very sweet.
00:53:27
Yeah.
00:53:28
And then I googled this podcast because I don't know much about podcast.
00:53:33
Sure.
00:53:34
No, I can't.
00:53:35
You the richest people I've ever met.
00:53:37
I mean, there's plenty more.
00:53:39
Yeah, there's plenty more.
00:53:40
Yeah.
00:53:41
Do you do concerts?
00:53:43
You know, we did a tour.
00:53:45
We did a tour.
00:53:46
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:47
And we went to we went everywhere.
00:53:50
Actually, we were going to come to London last this time last year, but we we ended up doing a European version of it one of these days, but yeah, we love going out there on the road.
00:53:59
It's a lot of fun.
00:53:59
If we come to London and we even if we would you would you agree now and we won't hold you to it to jump on stage and say hello if we do a show in London.
00:54:07
Yes, I do that.
00:54:08
Okay, we play golf at Sunningdale.
00:54:11
Oh, that's great.
00:54:12
Oh, Sunningdale.
00:54:13
Yeah.
00:54:13
That would be great.
00:54:15
We were Jason and I had said we talked about the London trip and the tour and we said we're going to have two dates in London and then we'll bring our clubs and then we'll also do a date in Dublin.
00:54:24
So we'll play in Ireland as well.
00:54:25
Yeah, we had planned it all.
00:54:27
I played in my my golf store, which I've told a long time ago here, really, really fast.
00:54:32
I played in Dublin with my brother, Kevin and I've just say true true story.
00:54:36
I hit it.
00:54:37
I don't know what's shanker?
00:54:39
What's shanked again?
00:54:42
Yeah, it goes goes bad.
00:54:43
Yeah.
00:54:43
So I hit it.
00:54:44
I shanked and it hit H and I hit it really hard.
00:54:48
It hit a tree bounced off and smack hit me in the neck.
00:54:51
My own ball.
00:54:52
No, in my own neck.
00:54:53
I swear to God.
00:54:55
It was horrible.
00:54:56
It was the universe saying get the fuck out of here.
00:54:59
Yeah, and we didn't have exactly and I did.
00:55:01
We didn't have a little card.
00:55:04
We just had a walk everywhere.
00:55:06
It's a God.
00:55:06
Why is this?
00:55:07
We never play with a car.
00:55:08
We never we all walk.
00:55:10
I don't know.
00:55:11
It's a nice walk.
00:55:12
Why it's a nice walk?
00:55:13
It's a walk in a garden and you get to play a game at the same time.
00:55:16
Yeah, sure.
00:55:17
Uh, Hugh, thank you so much.
00:55:18
If you grant continued success, man, I hope you get to do exactly what you want to do.
00:55:22
You deserve it and we deserve to hear about it and thank you for your time and get some rest.
00:55:28
Thank you, sir.
00:55:28
It was nice to meet you.
00:55:29
Well, thank you.
00:55:30
It was a pleasure to meet you.
00:55:31
And I can't wait for her to come.
00:55:32
Yeah, thanks.
00:55:32
Thanks, Paul.
00:55:33
Nice to meet you.
00:55:34
All right.
00:55:35
Good luck with the show.
00:55:35
Thanks, you'll see you.
00:55:36
All right.
00:55:37
Bye, Paul.
00:55:37
See you guys.
00:55:38
Bye.
00:55:38
Wow, is he funny?
00:55:41
I love how dry and candid.
00:55:44
I mean, you know, honest refreshing reminds me what's that Brian Cox quote?
00:55:49
I'm too old to rich and too famous to give a fuck.
00:55:53
Isn't that what he said?
00:55:54
Yeah, like that.
00:55:54
It was very, very refreshing.
00:55:56
What I've always been a fan of has it never met him.
00:55:59
Never really heard or seen an extended interview with him.
00:56:02
So that was, that was really nice.
00:56:04
Yeah, yeah.
00:56:05
Yeah, I mean, either.
00:56:06
Yeah, it's one of those.
00:56:08
I don't feel like I know a lot about him.
00:56:10
But I love his, his career trajectory too.
00:56:13
Like, yeah, he's probably made, he's made like a hundred movies, too.
00:56:17
Yeah.
00:56:17
Yeah.
00:56:18
He's made so many movies and he's made and he's made kids movie.
00:56:23
I didn't even make, I'm going to look at it.
00:56:24
I should have looked this up.
00:56:25
I mean, terrible.
00:56:26
He made that, um, the film, uh, what was the Hugh Paddington, right?
00:56:31
Yeah.
00:56:31
Paddington was a great movie.
00:56:34
Great.
00:56:34
Great.
00:56:35
Well done.
00:56:35
Great.
00:56:36
Forever.
00:56:36
That was a long time ago.
00:56:37
I wonder like, um, you know, back.
00:56:41
Bridget Jones, by the way, Bridget Jones, all the bridge Jones films, fucking, nodding Hill.
00:56:46
He made all those, all those movies with Richard Curtis that Richard Curtis wrote, talking about the fact that Richard Curtis did not want him for four weddings who had written it.
00:56:54
And then they went on to work together and have like a wonderful working relationship.
00:56:59
Yeah.
00:56:59
Um, and I wanted to get into that.
00:57:01
But he was being too self deprecating and funny about his life to interrupt.
00:57:04
Yeah.
00:57:04
But I've always been a fan of thrillers and stuff like that.
00:57:07
And, um, he's got, he's got what's it called?
00:57:10
Heritage?
00:57:10
Oh my god.
00:57:11
Heritage?
00:57:11
Yeah.
00:57:12
I can't wait to get a ticket for that or not get a ticket.
00:57:17
But vine tickets.
00:57:19
It's so honestly, here's the thing.
00:57:22
Here's the thing.
00:57:23
Here's the thing.
00:57:24
No, it's too easy just hanging up on him, Sean.
00:57:27
It's not clever.
00:57:29
It's not clever.
00:57:30
It's just lazy.
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A difficult listen, why is Sean laughing at everything? I love Hugh Grant, he's brilliant at interviews but they don't get the best out of him.
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