Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page chat about all things on and off the telly.

This week Nat and Jo catch up on two shows everyone seems to be talking about - Rivals and Ludwig. One they describe as a "romping good show" and the other as "the new Jonathan Creek", tune in to find out which one is which. Plus Nat chats about watching Strictly on Saturday live in the studio for Icons week.

What they can’t stop watching, what they definitely aren’t going to bother with, new releases and comforting classics – TV is timeless and no telly is out of bounds.

As well as having a natter about what’s on TV, they share backstage goss from the world of telly, whilst also cracking up about the more humbling moments in their lives.

Self-confessed TV addicts and stars of two of the biggest shows on our screens, EastEnders and Gavin and Stacey, Natalie and Joanna are the perfect companions to see what’s occurring on and off the telly.

Timecodes for shows discussed this week are:

14:45 - Rivals (Disney+)
27:00 - Ludwig (BBC iPlayer)

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Hosts: Natalie Cassidy and Joanna Page
Producer: Georgia Keating
Executive Producer: Pete Strauss
Commissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts
Production Co-ordinator: Becky Carewe-Jeffries
Sounds Editor: Arlie Adlington
Music by MCasso

Off The Telly is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.