“AI for AI safety” by Joe Carlsmith
Update: 2025-03-25
Description
(Audio version here (read by the author), or search for "Joe Carlsmith Audio" on your podcast app.
This is the fourth essay in a series that I’m calling “How do we solve the alignment problem?”. I’m hoping that the individual essays can be read fairly well on their own, but see this introduction for a summary of the essays that have been released thus far, and for a bit more about the series as a whole.)
1. Introduction and summary
In my last essay, I offered a high-level framework for thinking about the path from here to safe superintelligence. This framework emphasized the role of three key “security factors” – namely:
Outline:
(00:27 ) 1. Introduction and summary
(03:50 ) 2. What is AI for AI safety?
(11:50 ) 2.1 A tale of two feedback loops
(13:58 ) 2.2 Contrast with need human-labor-driven radical alignment progress views
(16:05 ) 2.3 Contrast with a few other ideas in the literature
(18:32 ) 3. Why is AI for AI safety so important?
(21:56 ) 4. The AI for AI safety sweet spot
(26:09 ) 4.1 The AI for AI safety spicy zone
(28:07 ) 4.2 Can we benefit from a sweet spot?
(29:56 ) 5. Objections to AI for AI safety
(30:14 ) 5.1 Three core objections to AI for AI safety
(32:00 ) 5.2 Other practical concerns
The original text contained 39 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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First published:
March 14th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/F3j4xqpxjxgQD3xXh/ai-for-ai-safety
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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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This is the fourth essay in a series that I’m calling “How do we solve the alignment problem?”. I’m hoping that the individual essays can be read fairly well on their own, but see this introduction for a summary of the essays that have been released thus far, and for a bit more about the series as a whole.)
1. Introduction and summary
In my last essay, I offered a high-level framework for thinking about the path from here to safe superintelligence. This framework emphasized the role of three key “security factors” – namely:
- Safety progress: our ability to develop new levels of AI capability safely,
- Risk evaluation: our ability to track and forecast the level of risk that a given sort of AI capability development involves, and
- Capability restraint [...]
Outline:
(00:27 ) 1. Introduction and summary
(03:50 ) 2. What is AI for AI safety?
(11:50 ) 2.1 A tale of two feedback loops
(13:58 ) 2.2 Contrast with need human-labor-driven radical alignment progress views
(16:05 ) 2.3 Contrast with a few other ideas in the literature
(18:32 ) 3. Why is AI for AI safety so important?
(21:56 ) 4. The AI for AI safety sweet spot
(26:09 ) 4.1 The AI for AI safety spicy zone
(28:07 ) 4.2 Can we benefit from a sweet spot?
(29:56 ) 5. Objections to AI for AI safety
(30:14 ) 5.1 Three core objections to AI for AI safety
(32:00 ) 5.2 Other practical concerns
The original text contained 39 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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First published:
March 14th, 2025
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/F3j4xqpxjxgQD3xXh/ai-for-ai-safety
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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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