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“Charlie Kirk’s Secret Plan to Take Over America” with Dr Matthew Boedy

“Charlie Kirk’s Secret Plan to Take Over America” with Dr Matthew Boedy

Update: 2025-10-16
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What if the fight for America’s soul wasn’t just political, but theological?

A powerful movement inside Christian America believes it is on a divine mission to rescue the nation’s institutions; from education and media to business and government. Their chief cheerleader was Charlie Kirk, whose organisation, Turning Point USA, is now better positioned to reshape American life than when he was alive.

In the same month as Kirk's assassination, by sheer coincidence, a book was released revealing the incredible backstory of Kirk's plan: The Seven Mountains Mandate: Exposing the Dangerous Plan to Christianize America and Destroy Democracy.

Its author, former journalist and academic Dr Matthew Boedy, joins Josh to explain how a vision of two evangelists in the '70s became the blueprint for a cultural takeover, and how its most modern champion, Charlie Kirk, built a machine capable of turning online outrage into real-world political power.

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“Charlie Kirk’s Secret Plan to Take Over America” with Dr Matthew Boedy

“Charlie Kirk’s Secret Plan to Take Over America” with Dr Matthew Boedy

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