Depression. Anxiety. Sleep deprivation. Addiction. The headlines about "screen time" and today’s kids sound like the end of the world. But in the Season 2 opener of ILL EFFECTS, Rich walks Ben through the panic—and the patchy science propping it up. He argues it’s time to ditch the outdated idea of screen time altogether, and to replace it with a smarter, more nuanced conversation about how, when, and why we use modern media. 

NOTE: The initial version of this episode (published 10th April 2025) had some sound issues, a new version was published 17th April 2025.

Hosts – Rich McCulloch and Ben Litherland   

Music by -  Brutalust (Colin Frank and Maria Sappho), recorded and mixed by Joe Christman  

Producer – Caroline Pringle  

Sound Effect by Devrinta Rose Nataya from Pixabay 

Sound Effect by Rasool Asaad from Pixabay 

Cover art photo by Kelly Sikkema on Unsplash