Summary

Alan Kohler joins Andrew to discuss the FBI’s counterintelligence division. He is a recipient of the FBI Director’s Award for Outstanding Counterintelligence Investigation. 

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What You’ll Learn

Intelligence

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• Counterintelligence vs. Counterespionage


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• How the FBI recruit’s foreign agents 


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• Ideological motivations behind spying


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• Effect of technology on counterintelligence


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Reflections

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• Staying grounded under pressure 


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• The value of creativity


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Notes

Alan Kohler (LinkedIn, Website) has been the FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence since 2020. Alan and Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) talk all things counterintelligence.

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*Beginner Resources*

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  What We Investigate, FBI (n.d.) [webpage]


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  FAQ’S, FBI (n.d.) [webpage]


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  US Opens Counterintelligence Investigation into China Every 12 Hours (Dir. Wray), MSNBC (2022) [video]


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  What We Know About China’s Spy Agency, Bloomberg Originals (2019) [video]


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  Hollow Nickel/Rudolf Abel, FBI (n.d.) [Article]


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  NCSC Mission, Vision, and Goals, ODNI (n.d.) [Website]


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Glossary: 

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  Counterintelligence: Information gathered, and activities conducted to identify, deceive, exploit, disrupt, or protect against espionage or other intelligence activities


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  FBI Attaché: a special agent assigned to a U.S. embassy or consulate overseas to liaise with local law enforcement and intelligence agencies. They pursue terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions. 


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  Occam’s Razor: a rule of thumb theory that states when you are faced with competing explanations for the same phenomenon, the simplest one is probably the correct one. Attributed to William of Ockham, a 14th century English theologian. 


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