Leadership is evolving in real-time with the rapid evolution and application of AI.
In this episode, Chris Walker joins Garrath Robinson to explore the seismic shift from the Information Era to the Frequency Era and why the next generation of great leaders will be measured not by what they know, but by the energy they transmit.

Drawing from his own transformation, from building and exiting Refine Labs to launching his new venture ENCODED, Chris unpacks how leadership, performance, and fulfillment are evolving beyond IQ and EQ into a new dimension.

Together, they explore:

• The societal leap from IQ (knowledge) → EQ (emotional intelligence) → Frequency as the defining measure of value in life and leadership

• Why a leader’s internal state and frequency inevitably shapes their team’s performance

• Discipline as identity alignment, not willpower, and why most resolutions fail without this shift

• How to audit habits, beliefs, and relationships to unlock personal transformation

• The collapse of middle management and the rise of directly engaged, high-frequency leadership

• Why future communities will organize around frequency rather than status, wealth, race, or background

Whether you’re leading a team, building a company, or pursuing personal mastery, this conversation offers a roadmap for thriving in the Frequency Era—where the greatest advantage you can develop is the energy you bring into every room.