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๐Ÿš€ How to Pivot Into Project Management and Then Into Leadership

๐Ÿš€ How to Pivot Into Project Management and Then Into Leadership

Update: 2025-11-12
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Most of us donโ€™t โ€œplanโ€ to become project managers, we grow into it. But how do you keep growing once youโ€™re there?This week on PM Therapy, Mukhtar Kadiri, PMP sits down with Joey Perugino, a seasoned PM, mentor, and founder of Letโ€™s Talk Project Management, to unpack the personal and professional reinvention every PM needs to stay relevant, confident, and fulfilled.Joeyโ€™s journey โ€” from banking director to program manager and mentor โ€” is a masterclass in pivoting with purpose. He shares what it really takes to lead without a title, develop strategic influence, and continuously evolve your career.๐Ÿ’ก What Youโ€™ll Learn in This Episode

๐Ÿ”นHow to build confidence and credibility when thereโ€™s no clear path into project management๐Ÿ”นThe mindset shifts required to move from tactical PM to strategic leader๐Ÿ”นWhy mentorship and community accelerate career growth๐Ÿ”นHow to pivot, whether from PM to Scrum Master, or from task leader to strategic advisor๐Ÿ”นWhy giving back to the PM community can transform your own career๐Ÿ“‰ Need help landing a $100Kโ€“$300K PM role? Book a free strategy call with us โ†’ https://tally.so/r/3la956๐ŸŽง Listen to PM Therapy on your favorite platforms๐Ÿ”นSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kuSAv0ItNewDqAh64PTph๐Ÿ”นYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pmtherapypod๐Ÿ”นApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pm-therapy/id1812039614๐Ÿค“ Want to join live for the next episode? Follow Mukhtar Kadiri, PMP on LinkedIn โ†’ https://linkedin.com/in/m-kadir๐Ÿง‘๐Ÿปโ€๐ŸฆณKeep up with Joey Peruginohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/joeyperugino/โค๏ธ Donโ€™t forget to like, comment & subscribe for more real conversations about career growth & leadership in project management.

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๐Ÿš€ How to Pivot Into Project Management and Then Into Leadership

๐Ÿš€ How to Pivot Into Project Management and Then Into Leadership

Mukhtar Kadiri