Steen and I discuss our current presidential administration and its effect on the church, We also talk about my leaving the church, and where I put my faith when religion failed me.

Interlude music: "Rose Colored" by Lady of the Lake // www.facebook.com/thisladyofthelake
Intro/Theme music: Will Hollifield // www.williamhollifield.com
Logo: Ben Farnham // www.benfarnham.com