In this deeply moving and insightful episode of The Rest is Commentary, Shep welcomes Rabbanit Alissa Thomas-Newborn—spiritual leader, hospital chaplain, interfaith activist, and author—for a conversation that bridges trauma, creativity, parenthood, and the search for shared humanity. Alissa, who serves as a Rabbanit at Netivot Shalom in Teaneck, NJ and works as a hospital chaplain, is known for her empathetic leadership and commitment to guiding people through the most intimate and challenging moments of their lives.

Alissa and Shep traverse the terrain of creativity as a sacred act, exploring how Torah, music, and pain come together to form new vessels for meaning. Alissa reflects on how Shep’s song, “The Golden Rule,” resonated with the unrelenting emotional fatigue of this moment in Jewish history, particularly in the wake of October 7th.

The conversation also confronts the fragility of civic dialogue and the dangers of dehumanization—whether at a City Council meeting or in national political discourse. Alissa offers insight from her interfaith work, highlighting the importance of discerning when to engage in difficult conversations and when silence is self-preservation.

Her experience of trauma as a mother and Jewish leader in the post–October 7th world underscores the episode’s central theme: how do we rebuild trust, purpose, and life when our foundations have been shaken?

Through it all, Alissa shares her personal journey of resilience, including the birth of her long-awaited son and the simultaneous release of her book—a project steeped in love, halacha, and the daily sacredness of parenting. This episode is both a balm and a challenge: to soften our hearts, name our pain, and respond to darkness with life-affirming action.

We pushed up production of this episode after the "Run for Their Lives" marchers in Boulder, County were attacked.  We dedicate this episode tot heir healing and to those who continue to stand up for the Jewish and Israeli communities worldwide.